Abortion is Murder

[LMNO]

Morning-after pill TOTALLY =/= getting your uterus sucked out.

[Darth Cupcake]

I don't want to get super involved in this, but there can be numerous reasons people get the  morning after pill:

1) condom broke.
2) "well, I'm on the pill, but I haven't been really good about taking it on time lately, and I accidentally didn't even take it at all last night... Shit... better be safe."
3) date rape
4) yeah, just a damn idiot who didn't use any contraceptives.

I'd say the majority are in categories 1 and 4.

But frankly, getting the morning after pill is a RESPONSIBLE thing to do. And minimizes abortions.

There we are. Other than throwing that in there, I would really like to not get involved in this. So... time to go reheat my lunch, huzzah!

[AFK]

Morning-after pill TOTALLY =/= getting your uterus sucked out.

Especially when the baby WAS planned. 

[AFK]

i was actually talking about the bit where it seemed like you were trying to tell a discordian what to do

but never mind, really

I know, I know.  I just thought his statement was very limiting, and frankly IMO, pretty inane.  Especially when he goes on to advocate the genocide of old people.  (yeah, I know.  I'm sure he was exaggerating for effect.)

Of course it is quite valid and possible for someone to be personally against abortion and pro-choice.  Becuase, hello, that's what Pro-Choice means, having a choice.  When one says that someone can't be anti-abortion personally and pro-abortion socially they are assuming that this person is like many on the right, and really snoopy and invasive in others lives. 

I just tend to think, if one is a Discordian, if one is open-minded, they would be able to recognize the folly of that kind of logic.  But whatever floats his boat. 

[LMNO]

Of course, he could have just been acting the wise-ass.

[Suu]

Morning-after pill TOTALLY =/= getting your uterus sucked out.

Especially when the baby WAS planned. 

Or not planned, though you meant to keep it anyway but your body kicked it out regardless. 

It's a miserable experience, folks, but I'm kinda glad they go through with it when miscarriage is inevitable rather than having to pass the fetus normally.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

D&E is a horrible experience... I can't imagine it's that much less horrible when the pregnancy was unplanned, rather than a planned fetus dying in the womb. A sane woman would not *want* to go through that experience a second time. I've never had the new "morning after" pill but I did have the old one once, when I was 18... it made me puke all day and the cramping was unreal.

This is reminding me to make an appointment for an IUD.

[Darth Cupcake]

This is reminding me to make an appointment for an IUD.

TITCM

-DC
Lurves her Mirena

[Suu]

Yeah, since you told me about your's D-Cup I've been considering it myself if it won't affect the endo.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I tried a Mirena a few years ago and it gave me daily headaches so I had it removed. I can't have anything with hormones without t fucking me all up.

Before that, I had a Copper T, which I loved for the two years I had it before becoming pregnant with my youngest daughter. Not exactly a resounding endorsement, but I'm going to go get another one for backup because condoms alone just aren't enough to keep my mind at ease.

[Suu]

Hormones actually help my bleeding, but I gain a lot of weight.  Then when I got off of my last scrip of pills, I started growing course facial hair on my chin because it fucked me up. I know, right? Sexy.

I'd be willing to try the copper one.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The copper one was nice because after some initial cramping and heavy bleeding (I have fibroids so my periods suck anyway) I couldn't tell it was there... no side effects whatsoever. And the unexpected pregnancy was such a fluke... has to happen to somebody, and I have to say I do love that girl... even though she is some sort of powerhouse of crazy.

[hunter s.durden]

Becuase, hello, that's what Pro-Choice means, having a choice.

Hold Up.

Pro-Choice does not mean having a choice. Pro-choice is a term used to make their cause sound just and good. They are Pro-abortion. If they were pro-choice, they would let me choose to get a machine gun and a 2 pound bag of PCP. Pro-abortion sounds ugly.

Other side: Pro-Lifers are not pro-life, they are anti-abortion. They generally don't think twice about murdering prisoners or bombing orphanages in Brown places.

If your going to be open-minded, by open minded to the fact that the scum-fuckers on both sides of this argument are using language to cloud the issue.

[Triple Zero]

Morning-after pill TOTALLY =/= getting your uterus sucked out.

what about cheap no name brand knock offs?

dude, did you actually GET any sexual education in highschool?

a morning after pill got basically the same stuff in it as about 3 or 4 anticonception pills (depending on the strength of anticonception a girl usually takes, a girl who is used to low-dose anticonception can in fact use a simple high-dose anticonception pill as a morning after pill).

if you do that the morning after, you'll force some kind of menstruation-like effect, which expulses the possibly-fertilized egg in a reasonably normal way. [ok this might not be entirely accurate, but it's sort of what's happening right?]

sometimes the woman feels ill or sick, but not always, and still, it beats pregnancy.

anyway, when this happens because of the morning after pill, there is NOTHING being killed that was previously alive. unless you count the sperm cells, which are being killed by the millions every conception anyway, because "There Can Be Only One".
it takes a while, often longer than the morning after, before even the fertilized egg-cell starts dividing, and it takes an even longer time before, personally, i would consider it more "alive" or "human" than whatever mould is growing in my garbage cans.

on the other hand, abortion is physically going into the vagina/uterus and taking the unborn baby OUT.

sorry, i know, in certain countries they just don't teach this shit, like i had to BEG my austrian girlfriend to start using the pill (god have i been so stupid a few times, fortunately i'm not a father now though, morning after pills have only been needed when condoms broke) cause she was just scared shitless of the stuff, for no apparent reason at all.

[East Coast Hustle]

...I started growing course facial hair on my chin...Sexy.

paging WOMP!

would WOMP please report to the thread?