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Is it just me or is distaste for Libertarianism contradictory to discordianism?

Started by navkat, July 01, 2009, 02:01:59 PM

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LMNO

#285
July 10, 2009, 08:30:09 PM
So the state should deny a starving man his civil rights.

AFK

#286
July 10, 2009, 08:30:47 PM
Hard work and basic abilities mean jack shit when there are no jobs to be had.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#287
July 10, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
It's not really good for anyone to have kids starving to death during a recession.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Cain

#288
July 10, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on July 10, 2009, 08:30:47 PM
Hard work and basic abilities mean jack shit when there are no jobs to be had.  

I'm used to hard work and have well above basic abilities and I spend 10 hours a week doing research I could probably program my computer to do for me.

And that's the best job I've had since 2007 (note: for the purposes of discussion, poker, blackjack and various magic tricks and clever games performed in bars to win money off punters does not constitute "employment").

navkat

#289
July 10, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Yes: people need assistance.
Yes: we have a responsibility to the disadvantaged.
However: I'm more about education/rehabilitation than out-and-out handouts with no backup plan.

Cain

#290
July 10, 2009, 08:40:53 PM
Only way I'm getting more educated is with a PhD.  Education does not matter when there are few jobs going, and even fewer employers who want to take you on.

LMNO

#291
July 10, 2009, 08:43:53 PM
Quote from: navkat on July 10, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Yes: people need assistance.
Yes: we have a responsibility to the disadvantaged.
However: I'm more about education/rehabilitation than out-and-out handouts with no backup plan.

People with college educations are dying from lack of food and shelter in the US right now.  What the fuck are you going to teach them?

Bruno

#292
July 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
So, should the State provide food to starving citizens?

Sure, not steak and wine though.

More like enriched protein wafers and all the water they can drink.
Formerly something else...

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#293
July 10, 2009, 08:51:23 PM Last Edit: July 10, 2009, 09:08:11 PM by Nigel
Quote from: navkat on July 10, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Yes: people need assistance.
Yes: we have a responsibility to the disadvantaged.
However: I'm more about education/rehabilitation than out-and-out handouts with no backup plan.

Sometimes people just need food in order to survive through a recession.

How would it benefit society as a whole if, during a recession, the jobless and their children simply starved to death?

How do you think it would affect the economy?

What do you think would happen to the crime rate?

Would the nation and its surviving citizens end up more prosperous, vs. giving people social support in the form of free food or other public assistance?

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

LMNO

#294
July 10, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
So, should the State provide food to starving citizens?

Sure, not steak and wine though.

More like enriched protein wafers and all the water they can drink.

:cn:

AFK

#295
July 10, 2009, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: navkat on July 10, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
Yes: people need assistance.
Yes: we have a responsibility to the disadvantaged.
However: I'm more about education/rehabilitation than out-and-out handouts with no backup plan.

You do realize that what you are talking about would cost money, right?  Where is that money going to come from?  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

#296
July 10, 2009, 08:56:33 PM
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T TAX PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD IT!

Bruno

#297
July 10, 2009, 08:56:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
So, should the State provide food to starving citizens?

Sure, not steak and wine though.

More like enriched protein wafers and all the water they can drink.

:cn:

eh?
Formerly something else...

fomenter

#298
July 10, 2009, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
So, should the State provide food to starving citizens?

Sure, not steak and wine though.

More like enriched protein wafers and all the water they can drink.

:cn:
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Bruno

#299
July 10, 2009, 09:00:26 PM
Quote from: fomenter on July 10, 2009, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:54:27 PM
Quote from: Jerry_Frankster on July 10, 2009, 08:48:46 PM
Quote from: LMNO on July 10, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
So, should the State provide food to starving citizens?

Sure, not steak and wine though.

More like enriched protein wafers and all the water they can drink.

:cn:
soylent green is people


LIES!!!!!
Soylent Green is soybeans, lentils and aglae!!!!!! :crankey:
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