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the math poll

Started by rong, October 10, 2009, 12:34:48 AM

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pick one, please

math was invented
14 (43.8%)
math was discovered
4 (12.5%)
it's a little bit of both
8 (25%)
don't know
2 (6.3%)
don't care
4 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 32

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Triple Zero on October 15, 2009, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 14, 2009, 02:21:19 PMfor centuries without it, the appearance of Zero was guaranteed to happen eventually.



It's what happens when you let Belgians crossbreed with Norwegians.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Halfbaked1

Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 15, 2009, 05:24:23 AM
if everything is essentially chaos

Good start.  And we, as pattern makers, invented a way to impose patterns on the chaos.

One of these patterns was math.  That doesn't mean math existed before we invented it, but once the pattern was created then it framed the Chaos in such a way that other patterns could be created.

So that does not preclude the existence of math prior to our codification, yes?  But it does mean that if it did exist prior to our discovery of it that it could have simply been apple crumb cake.

LMNO

No.

Pay attention.  The establishment of game rules determined that certain patterns would arise.

Those patterns would not exist without the establishment of game rules.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 08:48:43 PM
No.

Pay attention.  The establishment of game rules determined that certain patterns would arise.

Those patterns would not exist without the establishment of game rules.

I don't get it.

:pokewithstick:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

MATH DOESNT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MATH BECAUSE I SAID SO, FUCKSTICK. GODDAMN. DID YOU EAT A LOT OF PAINT CHIPS AS A CHILD?



/Roger Prime

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
MATH DOESNT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MATH BECAUSE I SAID SO, FUCKSTICK. GODDAMN. DID YOU EAT A LOT OF PAINT CHIPS AS A CHILD?



/Roger Prime

Doin' it rite.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

Did I already state ITT that math is a religion?  If not, I do so here now.  If I did, oh well, at least I'm consistent.

Cramulus

ALL MATHEMATICIANS ARE FANATICS




You are educated evil,
and might have to kill
the evil ONE teaching
educators before you
can learn that 4 corner
days actually exist -but
all Cube Truth denied.

Dumb ass educators fear
me and hide from debate.


They are paid to teach a propaganda book - not
Cube Truth - for which
they would be fired. Evil
teachers betray students,
as ONE is a Death Value.
Cube 4x4 voids 1 & God.
USA ripe for holocaust.


Man evolves from teenager -
in cube metamorphosis
but ignores teenager to worship a male mother,
guised in woman's garb,
churchman called father.

Adult god is adult crime
upon their own children.
More holocaust deserved.



Cramulus


Rumckle

 :lulz:

Did you just :mittens: your own post?
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Halfbaked1

Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
MATH DOESNT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MATH BECAUSE I SAID SO, FUCKSTICK. GODDAMN. DID YOU EAT A LOT OF PAINT CHIPS AS A CHILD?



/Roger Prime

Okay, I think I see your point.  But if Math is a language then wouldn't that counter your argument?  Because the Math would exist outside itself as an expression of an idea or concept.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 16, 2009, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
MATH DOESNT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MATH BECAUSE I SAID SO, FUCKSTICK. GODDAMN. DID YOU EAT A LOT OF PAINT CHIPS AS A CHILD?



/Roger Prime

Okay, I think I see your point.  But if Math is a language then wouldn't that counter your argument?  Because the Math would exist outside itself as an expression of an idea or concept.

What the fuck are you talking about?  English does not exist outside of itself.  No language does.  Except Spanish, because all things Spanish are dangerous, even when they don't exist.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Halfbaked1

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:29:17 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 16, 2009, 04:25:38 AM
Quote from: LMNO on October 15, 2009, 10:05:40 PM
MATH DOESNT EXIST OUTSIDE OF MATH BECAUSE I SAID SO, FUCKSTICK. GODDAMN. DID YOU EAT A LOT OF PAINT CHIPS AS A CHILD?



/Roger Prime

Okay, I think I see your point.  But if Math is a language then wouldn't that counter your argument?  Because the Math would exist outside itself as an expression of an idea or concept.

What the fuck are you talking about?  English does not exist outside of itself.  No language does.  Except Spanish, because all things Spanish are dangerous, even when they don't exist.

I can't speak Spanish, or any variant thereof.  I am the most un-Mexican Mexican you could ever meet.

my point was that if Math is a language then it exists outside of itself due to its primary use of defining parameters and the world...and then as...a lang...nevermind, I retract my statement.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 16, 2009, 04:32:21 AM
I can't speak Spanish, or any variant thereof.  I am the most un-Mexican Mexican you could ever meet.

So, all the Spanish drained out of you?  That sucks.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Halfbaked1

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 16, 2009, 04:37:34 AM
Quote from: Halfbaked1 on October 16, 2009, 04:32:21 AM
I can't speak Spanish, or any variant thereof.  I am the most un-Mexican Mexican you could ever meet.

So, all the Spanish drained out of you?  That sucks.

I took 2 years of spanish, and the best i can do is count to like thirty, say hello goodbye, thank you and ask what time it is.  My Irish buddy speaks Spanish really well, its a hoot to be with us at a Mexican restaurant.  waiter asks me stuff in Spanish and the Irish guy responds in Spanish while I respond in Russian (really bad russian, but they seldom know the difference).