LOST: Time I will never get back

[the last yatto]

[AFK]

Funny banter, except they did actually survive the plane crash. The alternate reality was a purgatory like place. A few weeks ago they had an episode where one of the characters was convinced that he was dead and went to hell. Jacob responds by repeatedly dunking his head under water and shouting, "You still think you're dead? Why should I stop doing this?" It was a funny outburst. Probably due to repeated assertions that it was purgatory when the producers said that it (the Island itself) was not.

Wasn't that from the episode that gave the backstory on Richard Alpert?  And that is a good point.  It wouldn't have made much sense to give backstories of Alpert, Jacob, and MiB if it was all just a purgatory/dream.  

Part of the confusion I think stems from the start of the flash sideways which was right after Juliet sets of the A-bomb.  Casually, it could seem like maybe the A-bomb did something really screwy to time and created the alternate, parallel universe, and that the point of Season 6 was going to be bringing those two universes together.  But the explanation for the flash sideways, that they were basically part of this purgatory, basically means that the universes were not parallel.  Christian says that it didn't exist in a "now", yet, their lives intersected along a linear flow of events in the flash sideways universe.  Can time exist within timelessness?  

Another thought, they could also have done a better job of selling the purgatory idea if they hadn't omitted characters in the final scenes like Michael, Mr. Eko, Libby, Artz, Ana Lucia, etc., etc.,

[Nephew Twiddleton]

Funny banter, except they did actually survive the plane crash. The alternate reality was a purgatory like place. A few weeks ago they had an episode where one of the characters was convinced that he was dead and went to hell. Jacob responds by repeatedly dunking his head under water and shouting, "You still think you're dead? Why should I stop doing this?" It was a funny outburst. Probably due to repeated assertions that it was purgatory when the producers said that it (the Island itself) was not.

Wasn't that from the episode that gave the backstory on Richard Alpert?  And that is a good point.  It wouldn't have made much sense to give backstories of Alpert, Jacob, and MiB if it was all just a purgatory/dream.  

Part of the confusion I think stems from the start of the flash sideways which was right after Juliet sets of the A-bomb.  Casually, it could seem like maybe the A-bomb did something really screwy to time and created the alternate, parallel universe, and that the point of Season 6 was going to be bringing those two universes together.  But the explanation for the flash sideways, that they were basically part of this purgatory, basically means that the universes were not parallel.  Christian says that it didn't exist in a "now", yet, their lives intersected along a linear flow of events in the flash sideways universe.  Can time exist within timelessness?  

Another thought, they could also have done a better job of selling the purgatory idea if they hadn't omitted characters in the final scenes like Michael, Mr. Eko, Libby, Artz, Ana Lucia, etc., etc.,

The A-Bomb threw me off too. Maybe the flash-sideways was an afterthought, kinda like "fine, you think it's all purgatory, we'll throw purgatory in there"
The A-Bomb did send them back to 2007, so that was kinda screwy, but it seemed like a plausible explanation- The A-Bomb would have destroyed the island (or at least a significant chunk of it), creating a grandfather paradox, resolving into two parallel timelines. Instead, we have to assume that the electromagnetism of the future location of the Swan contained the blast. Sayid did note that the amount of concrete in the hatch was comparable to Chernobyl.

As for the linear time in the timeless location, I suppose that it is possible that a human soul meeting up with other human souls in a place outside of time and space would by necessity interpret their stay there as past>present>future instead of pastpresentfuture in order to remember their lives and progress past its events.

AS far as the characters- forgot about Artz! that was so long ago, but a hilarious death. Ana Lucia was shown in the flash-sideways but it was stated that she wasn't ready to remember (I think by either Hurley or Desmond), just as Ben decided to wait outside the church admitting to Hurley that he wasn't ready. The guy who played Eko wanted nothing to do with the show even though he was asked. Michael's absence is a bit weird, but he is one of those whispering ghosts in the jungle. It's possible that he is still an earthbound spirit. It would have been great to see Scott and Steve together there seeing as how everyone confused them for each other.

[Triple Zero]

Too many goddamn commercials!   

Couldn't they have got Target to shell out some extra dough and just run their commercials instead of having the show so damned chopped up?  2 1/2 hours sounds nice until you realize that probably a good 30 minutes of it is ads.  The hard core Lost fans watching this thing don't give a fuck about where they can get surf and turf or the latest death trap on wheels from Toyota.  Just give us the fucking show!

So, you get the show from the torrents the next day (or even an hour after it finishes) and watch it without the ads?

[Bruno]

I watched it on Hulu. Only an hour and 45 minutes.

[hooplala]

Were the origins ever explained?  We see all of the "coincidences" but were they ever tied together?  Was it a Dharma convention that Jacob used as part of his effort to "touch" Hurley?  I don't remember that being revealed explicitly but maybe I missed it. 

The numbers corresponded with the final living candidates... it wasn't stated overtly, but I got the impression that the numbers had a lot to do with how Jacob was able to keep tabs on, and manipulate the lives of, the candidates.  MiB said: "Jacob had a thing for numbers."

So did Jacob give the numbers to Dharma to use as the sequence for quelling the electromagnetic charge or was it just a coincidence?  I never got the impression there was any kind of firm link between Jacob and the Dharma Initiative. 

Some of the members of the Dharma Initiative were also candidates, so I suppose he called them to the island too... with them, the numbers were the Valenzetti Equation, the sum of a long series of equations which stated when the world would end. 

[Iason Ouabache]

How it should have ended:

[Nephew Twiddleton]

How it should have ended:

Actually, that would be acceptable to me too. Millions of others would be pissed (or say they would be. A good portion of them would be laughing inside).

[Triple Zero]

"It was all the dogs dream" ??

[Dimocritus]

How it should have ended:

Brilliant!

[Iason Ouabache]

"It was all the dogs dream" ??

It's like the ending to St. Elsewhere except a bazillion times funnier.

[Iron Sulfide]

someone posted http://chooseyourownlost.com ...

i'm here to post http://tv.gawker.com/5458253/lost-pick-your-own-destiny

(PS this site has labeled NSFW links...)

[the last yatto]

Turns out you were right to give this man a mustache...

WTF CHARLES FARADAY?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383393/

on a related note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOfGjo3EuCo

[the last yatto]

Can't we just say now that "everything is a troll" and get on with our lives?

http://io9.com/5545911/lost-was-the-ultimate-long-con

[LaughingOtter]

The .GIF is brilliant! Made more sense than the show!