Pedophile Handbook, now in Kindle edition!

[Adios]

There are probably laws against "incitement" or to somehow advocate illegal acts (an overview of such a law is here).  Of course, it would be a difficult case to make, as well it should be.  

However, I would prefer to see the book brought to trial this way than to use the obscenity laws.

I agree. Using the obscenity laws ignores the intent of the book and spirals in a totally different direction that is unrelated.

Has the author ever been charged with pedophilia? Is the author a sex offender?

[AFK]

Well, I would if he did something to my kids.  But if he's just walking down the street minding his own business, there's no need.  

We have to keep in mind that the internet is only shining a flashlight on shit that's been around as long as mankind.  We didn't get all worked up about it because we didn't know about it.  Even with the internet, there are all kinds of people around us who have ideas we don't know about that we would consider sick, twisted, insane.  I'm sure there is some soccer Mom somewhere who wants to go all Annie Wilkes on Justin Bieber.  

[Adios]

http://www.howtodothings.com/hobbies/how-to-commit-a-perfect-murder

Was this author arrested?

[hooplala]

I doubt it.  Violence is celebrated in this culture.

[Adios]

I doubt it.  Violence is celebrated in this culture.

Not by me.

[Disco Pickle]

Was the author/collator/whatever of the Anarchist Cookbook ever arrested for advocating or promoting domestic terrorism?  Should he have been?  

Look, as a father of two kids, I can assure you this guy is not on my list of winners.  But LMNO and Hoops have it right.  I don't think we should be in the business of meting out justice for thoughtcrime.  They should be ridiculed and flogged publicly.  They should be mocked mercilessly.  They should be shunned and the scorn of society.  But until they actually do something, they should be free men.  That's how our justice system works.  This isn't Minority Report.  

damnit.  now your causing me to question my gut instinct with regards to anyone who writes about and advocates molesting children.

I agree, until they actually act on it, they should be free.

but something in my head tweaks a little when I hear that it's perfectly legal to write a book teaching other people how to fuck children and not get caught.  If ever there should be a taboo, if ever there was a very thick black line that should not be crossed, I would think that would be it.

It turns my stomach and so yeah, my reaction is based in the emotion it causes.

[LMNO]

I will say this:  I am perfectly ok with someone putting a red flag on this guy.  I mean, how a person behaves influences my opinion of them.

So, if a guy writes a how-to book on pedophilia, I will naturally assume that this guy has pedophilic tendencies, whether or not he acts on them (until evidence suggests otherwise-- he wrote a very convincing psychopath, but I don't think Easton Ellis is one).

To sum up: He shouldn't be arrested, and shouldn't be killed; but I've got my eye on you, pal.

[hooplala]

Yeah, I'm cool with that. 

[AFK]

Yeah this kind of thing is best decided and acted upon by the court of public opinion.  Not an actual court of laws.  Laws aren't particularly good at herding morality or changing human behavior.  

[BadBeast]

I doubt it.  Violence is celebrated in this culture.

Not by me either. And my original response was carefully worded to reflect this. I didn't say "He should be strung up from  a lamp post", or condone the act in any way. Only that this man should be allowed to reap any consequences of publishing such a morally reprehensible document. It's not like he was ignorant of the way people feel about their children, or the outrageous nature of the material. He did this knowing that the Law, at least, protected him. But Laws are sometimes wrong. That's why they are constantly being amended, and updated. Freedom of Speech is a fine thing. But there are consequences to saying, or (in this case)  publishing stupid outrageous, and depraved shit. The
acknowledgment of this should be reflected in the Legislation. What this man did is an outrage. Offensive, inflammatory, and reprehensible. If someone followed his advice, and used the information published in the book on YOUR Children, then how much would his Constitutional right to free speech affect your reaction then? (They are all "our" Children)

[LMNO]

You mean, if a pedophile, who is not the author of the book, did something to a future son or daughter of mine?

Then we convict the pedophile, and see if we can use incitement laws to go after the author.  Is this really so difficult a question?

[Adios]

I doubt it.  Violence is celebrated in this culture.

Not by me either. And my original response was carefully worded to reflect this. I didn't say "He should be strung up from  a lamp post", or condone the act in any way. Only that this man should be allowed to reap any consequences of publishing such a morally reprehensible document. It's not like he was ignorant of the way people feel about their children, or the outrageous nature of the material. He did this knowing that the Law, at least, protected him. But Laws are sometimes wrong. That's why they are constantly being amended, and updated. Freedom of Speech is a fine thing. But there are consequences to saying, or (in this case)  publishing stupid outrageous, and depraved shit. The
acknowledgment of this should be reflected in the Legislation. What this man did is an outrage. Offensive, inflammatory, and reprehensible. If someone followed his advice, and used the information published in the book on YOUR Children, then how much would his Constitutional right to free speech affect your reaction then? (They are all "our" Children)

1. Not illegal

2. Knee-jerk reactions to suppress rights are even more wrong. (see The Patriot Act, etc.)

[Jenne]

I will say this:  I am perfectly ok with someone putting a red flag on this guy.  I mean, how a person behaves influences my opinion of them.

So, if a guy writes a how-to book on pedophilia, I will naturally assume that this guy has pedophilic tendencies, whether or not he acts on them (until evidence suggests otherwise-- he wrote a very convincing psychopath, but I don't think Easton Ellis is one).

To sum up: He shouldn't be arrested, and shouldn't be killed; but I've got my eye on you, pal.

THIS.  Because I'd rather live in a society that allows this person to think and live freely as long as he's not directly causing harm himself.  Thinking bad thoughts and writing about them in public is NOT one of those harms.  No matter what the thought police would have you believe. 

Upshot:  Florida cheated.  And fuck them for using children to promote their police state morals as well.

[Jenne]

Yeah this kind of thing is best decided and acted upon by the court of public opinion.  Not an actual court of laws.  Laws aren't particularly good at herding morality or changing human behavior. 

For shame!  You really think the PUBLIC is SMART enough to police themselves on these matters!  We can't think for ourselves!  /sarcasm, drip drip

[Cain]

Was the author/collator/whatever of the Anarchist Cookbook ever arrested for advocating or promoting domestic terrorism?  

Given the alleged author was the son of a US Senator, I'm going to go with "hahahaha no".