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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:39:53 pm »
Kevin Smith is a national treasure, imho. Glad he beat the reaper this time!

He's also a heck of a businessman. Even use that post to to promote a Jay and Silent Bob reboot! That's dedication

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 27, 2018, 05:38:53 pm »
He dictated a lot of those last books because he was better able to concentrate and keep his flow verbally, and showed good clarity right up towards the end while doing that, I'd like to think that it relaxed him in a confusing difficult time.

Raising Steam was a particularly good one. He was building a very rich world right up to the end. There's even a bit in there about a goddess Pepina, she of the apple of discord. It was the most overtly Discordian thing I think in his entire work. He even go so far as to say 'hail Pepina and the occasional Discord'. So I say hail Pratchett!

In the Discworld Noir game, you're explicitly "helped" by a priest called "Malacypse" who is the worshipper of the goddess Errata, who presides over misunderstandings, and is considered a trickster goddess. Malaclypse is furthermore obsessed with conspiracy theories.

Admittedly, Pratchett didn't write the game, but he did edit it.

Neat! I'll have to look into getting a game system one day and checking it out.

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 27, 2018, 01:25:58 pm »
On a different note death almost came for Kevin Smith. Apparently he had a massive heart attack a couple of days ago. He's recovering and I saw a post of his on Facebook that was pretty upbeat for a guy that almost died.

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 27, 2018, 01:17:09 pm »
He dictated a lot of those last books because he was better able to concentrate and keep his flow verbally, and showed good clarity right up towards the end while doing that, I'd like to think that it relaxed him in a confusing difficult time.

Raising Steam was a particularly good one. He was building a very rich world right up to the end. There's even a bit in there about a goddess Pepina, she of the apple of discord. It was the most overtly Discordian thing I think in his entire work. He even go so far as to say 'hail Pepina and the occasional Discord'. So I say hail Pratchett!

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 27, 2018, 09:01:15 am »
Well I've got Facebook and messenger up and running again. I just had to commit to putting them on my phone. I guess this thing is now tied to me so calling in a burner is no longer appropriate. I really do like the voice recognition on it much better than my old phone.

My phone-tablet is now serving as a radio of sorts. I've been listening to Terry Pratchett audio books almost nonstop for weeks and weeks. I have the complete set don't ask where I got it. His last Works were some of his best and it's a shame that he wound up getting Alzheimer's and leaving us so soon. I can't say I blame him though.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Magnet Theory of Social Change
« on: February 27, 2018, 08:57:10 am »
For my part I like to be supportive of people with whom I agree or at least people I like. It's often more necessary than proving who's right or wrong in a situation. It can be as simple as just responding to a message or lending an ear when someone needs to vent. I guess you might call it being supportive tissue rather than a neuron.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Magnet Theory of Social Change
« on: February 27, 2018, 12:52:16 am »
Related: https://youtu.be/lTnQLEstpHo

Very cool vid and I think I get what you're getting at here. There's a term called 'standing in the gap'. It's often used for right-wing purposes but at the end of the day it can mean anyone willing to get into the middle area instead of staying on the fringes. There's a lot of hard work to be done in the corpus callosum so to speak. That work can't get done if you're out on The Fringe trying to push your own perspective or staying in some kind of echo chamber. Hard part is the gap is a place of constant conflict that may be overt or low-key. I like the guy's perspective on patience in conflict. Often enough the winner is not the one making the most noise but the one that gets through to whoever can be changed.

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It seems a stretch to me, to say that the Eunuch here is actually an indicator that sometimes people are born gay / genderfluid / whatever and that they're good to enter the kingdom of heaven too, despite not being able to get married. Cause in my progressive 2018 mystery cult reading of this thing, Jesus is kinda saying "Not all people overcome the small self God through family, some overcome the small self because they don't have the same sex drive we do - either through biology or self mastery." But your point about Jesus accepting The Queers is still in here, I think.     

It IS a stretch to say that he was talking about homosexuality or gender fluidity. I think that stretche is possible within the context using bed owner as a euphemism. Most of the kind that you describe are covered under His third definition of eunuch. There must be three separate types mentioned here not all of them involving spiritual attainment. Having your balls cut off does not necessarily point one in the direction of spiritual enlightenment for example..

Overall it's hard for me to properly reply to this because of the size of the screen I'm dealing with and the fact that I still don't fully comprehend some of what you wrote. I will however try to respond properly.

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the word Flesh here is really interesting - namely because of how Christianity positions Flesh as the diminished form of Spirit. He could have said One Spirit, but he specifically says one Flesh. The two people have become one physical body. They have overcome their physical separation. This "single being of flesh", the "married person", what gender is it? It seems immaterial, doesn't it?
 

It is both genders and neither specifically. I do believe the mystical term for this is Rebis. It is the unification of two opposites into something greater than the single parts.

As for the spirit or soul that in and of itself does not have a gender. I don't know if you're mystical enough to believe in reincarnation but the part of you that reincarnates does not have a gender inherently.

Now that's not the flesh but they are mirrors of each other. To truly understand one is to understand the other. Just as you must understand the Other to understand the Self.
 
In many Traditions the Other is properly capitalized because it represents God. The only reason to capitalize self is if that part of you has become unified or married to God, to the greater Idea or ideal state of being. And divorce is a great and tragic wounding of this state of being. I'll talk more about divorce later. Is sad.





I'll chop that post of yours up more later and probably ask for some clarifications of your terms. This is what I've got for now. Good time chatting with you Cramulus! I look forward to getting this worked out.

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 26, 2018, 07:32:57 pm »
So on Wednesday I've got an appointment with the local DVR. Hopefully this will mean I find some sort of employment. I'm in a tricky position. I need to either find part-time work that will pay me very little so that I can keep my insurance benefit or a full-time job that I can handle that's got benefits sufficient that I won't lose out on getting my pills.

Also going to be riding the bus a lot more since my car doesn't work. It's going to be an interesting challenge. I'll get used to it eventually but in the meantime I literally have almost no idea where the routes go. I have a bus schedule map but I've never been good at map reading or planning a trip. Starting next month I'm going to buy a bus pass and just ride the thing as much as I can until I learn the place by sight.

"we have a mental health problem in our nation"

"so...free or heavily subsidized mental health treatment for at the very least the lower income brackets so they can be 'contributing' members of society?"

'Haha NO!! You clearly are lazy and are using your 'illness' as an excuse for not working hard. If you want mental health care, try being wealthy. Peasant."

Also, bus routes are clearly designed by evil or senile wizards for arcane purposes. your plan of riding a lot to familiarize yourself with the routes, stops, and timing is my method.

Also uhhhh good job everyone on... not dying? Apparently there's been some near misses. Yikes.

Not being dead is great.

Yeah. Not Dead Yet beats the alternative. Some may see me as an unproductive feudal serf but at least I'm alive. I'm not even sure I'd want to be rich except for the benefits like being able to go to doctors and stuff

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: February 26, 2018, 04:57:49 pm »
Samuel L Jackson is laying down the law on this one!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-shreds-apos-065954281.html

Makes a pretty good point though. Barely trained, armed teachers are not the solution. I don't know what it is but that ain't it.

Robo-Cop style hall monitors, obviously.

"Alexa, lay down suppressive fire."
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 :lulz:....  :horrormirth:

There's no technical reason that can't happen.

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 26, 2018, 04:41:00 pm »
So, the co-worker who broke into my flat apologised to me today.

I think my reaction is best summed up by this smiley:  :kingmeh:

King Meh remains my single greatest contribution to PD.com. I think it's telling that the freeware pixel art program I used to make it borked forever shortly after. It's work in this world was complete.

Also, 'sup Pee Dee. It appears that the forum is no longer nannywalled off at work.

Kingmeh is one of my favorites! Good to see you again Cainad! Welcome back to PD

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That's just fine with me Cramulus. No problem about the length. I'm working with a small phone so I'll try and keep my response brief. First I have to think of one.

In the short-term it would seem to me that you hit on a very important point about the unification of the Flesh as a symbol for the unification of the Spirit.

Give me some time to chew on it and I'll try and take it down a piece of the time.

As a nod aside I had a dream about my ex-wife last night I have some things I might say about divorce but again it will take me some time. Some things never really become separated they just become painful.

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So I got a hair up my butt after Nigel linked to this article on FB.
http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/26/dear-offended-christian-from-a-very-tired-christian/

There was a specific point made about there being NO teachings from Jesus in the Gospels, and this sort of hit a sore spot for me. My question centers around a small but possibly very significant use of language that may be a fairly huge thing. Here's the write up as I have it down for now.

As to sincere opinions please fire away. I'm not attached to the perspective quite so personally as I used to be. I DO want to construct this from within the Christian perspective ultimately, but that's on me.
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I sympathize with the author on pretty much every point, but one of them is very close to the heart of the matter in terms of factional strife.

"I’m tired of reminding you that the number of times Jesus spoke about gender identity and sexual orientation in the Gospels—is zero."

This is not strictly true. In Matthew ch19 from about verses 8-12 Jesus lays down some pretty severe teaching about the spiritual consequences of divorce and when folks be like "That sucks! Better to never marry" Jesus basically says "Yup!" and goes into a bit about eunuchs as an aside.

 As far as Jesus' actual teachings clearly went he says abstinence to focus on the spiritual exclusively is best, but, hey, clearly not for everyone. He uses that to approach the subject of the eunuch then delineates the three basic sorts, those so born, so made by others, and some very few who are able to give it up as a spiritual sacrifice, in that order. He makes a point of showing that the status can be inherent, placing it first in description, but spoke most of the willing sort, and barely mentioned the usual kind in the middle. This matters as it demonstrated unmistakably through his language that he was least concerned in his message with the most usual sort of the subject. Yet he only meant "eunuch" in its most common form here say the scholars of "Christianity"!
I do wonder about that.

There's longstanding, highly predictable, argument against this passage possibly applying to homosexuality. The fact is they're correct that Jesus wasn't talking about that... overtly. If he had they'd have stoned him then and there, and he knew that damn well. They try a few times in other places, most notably when he declares "Before Moses was I AM" speaking the forbidden name of God in reply to a Pharisee's challenge of his authority to interpret the law. Christian doctrine states this was him claiming to be God, but there we now differ. I think he was merely stating the simple, terribly dangerous truth. God's authority is greater and older than Moses' law, and so any use of the law that is counter to Love and Truth has none of God's authority, but I digress.

It's worth noting that the Greek word for eunuch is derived from the words for "bed" and "owner" implying all of the sleeping alone a eunuch does. That's in Strong's Concordance if any question that interpretation.  Given Jesus' sense of wordplay and the unapproachable nature of the subject, I'd say "one who's bed is their own" could well describe the person of (then) unorthodox  gender or sexual orientation in a sublime fashion. It follows that if a person can be so born then God must have made them so, and loves them as such. From there we can see that the division never existed. It is and always was a lie, and as such doomed eventually. How's that for an eschaton worth "emmanentizing"?

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:18:01 am »
So on Wednesday I've got an appointment with the local DVR. Hopefully this will mean I find some sort of employment. I'm in a tricky position. I need to either find part-time work that will pay me very little so that I can keep my insurance benefit or a full-time job that I can handle that's got benefits sufficient that I won't lose out on getting my pills.

Also going to be riding the bus a lot more since my car doesn't work. It's going to be an interesting challenge. I'll get used to it eventually but in the meantime I literally have almost no idea where the routes go. I have a bus schedule map but I've never been good at map reading or planning a trip. Starting next month I'm going to buy a bus pass and just ride the thing as much as I can until I learn the place by sight.

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Principia Discussion / Re: The Roof
« on: February 26, 2018, 12:47:45 am »
oh OK -- ding ding, round two


No.   This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSJIORWj4tw

I was going to read the whole thread before posting but this was just too much! Ah for a more innocent era.

Oh and...

Where there is a fire there is bound to be a flame
Where there is a flame someone's bound to get burned
Just because you're burned it doesn't mean you're going to die
You have to get up and try try try

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