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Started by Suu, November 09, 2010, 04:34:10 PM

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LMNO

#120
November 18, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
Anyone have a credible link that fully describes any potential health risk?

LMNO

#122
November 18, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
Ok, the Popular Mechanics article states a pilot receives about 160 millirem a year from the solar radiation coming through the cockpit.

The backscatter gives off 2.4 microrems, or .024 milirems, or .00015% the amount.

The annual dose from holding "Fiesta Ware" pottery is about 2 to 3 rems.


So, yeah.  In my opinion, simply driving to the airport wil expose you to more carcinogens than the backscatter machine.

But I'm sure that's not going to convince anyone who thinks that radiation is scary.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#123
November 18, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
I honestly do have a problem with nude scans being taken of everyone's body, IF they aren't actually effective in reducing the risk of terrorism. That's not about me being a prude; I think it's an invasion of privacy for no real benefit.

I have an unequivocal problem with the "enhanced patdown" that's designed to keep people in line and behaving themselves like good little scared citizens.
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LMNO

#124
November 18, 2010, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 18, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
I honestly do have a problem with nude scans being taken of everyone's body, IF they aren't actually effective in reducing the risk of terrorism. That's not about me being a prude; I think it's an invasion of privacy for no real benefit.

Agreed; that's why I hope you would still object to the machine even if the images weren't nude.

QuoteI have an unequivocal problem with the "enhanced patdown" that's designed to keep people in line and behaving themselves like good little scared citizens.

Also agreed; both procedures are ineffective, coercive, manipulative, and are constitutional violations.

Cain

#125
November 18, 2010, 07:01:11 PM
Also remember these scanners wouldnt have picked up the kind of explosive used by the Underpants Bomber - the reason they were brought in for in the first place.

Even if they did, Al-Qaeda would just find a way around them, which the TSA wont think of.  Because the TSA, like most security agencies, is inherently reactive in how it deals with threats.

Al-Qaeda, on the other hand, are very pro-active in the field of coming up with new threats.  And they have engineers and explosives experts who do nothing else but think about how to exploit security flaws in order to kill people.

The Good Reverend Roger

#126
November 18, 2010, 07:06:05 PM
Quote from: Nigel on November 18, 2010, 06:54:32 PM
I honestly do have a problem with nude scans being taken of everyone's body, IF they aren't actually effective in reducing the risk of terrorism. That's not about me being a prude; I think it's an invasion of privacy for no real benefit.

I have an unequivocal problem with the "enhanced patdown" that's designed to keep people in line and behaving themselves like good little scared citizens.

"Enhanced".

Like "Enhanced Interrogation".  Only now we're using the word on our own people.

Vertaine called this one YEARS ago.
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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

#127
November 18, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Ahem...


It was a Wednesday morning.  The JFK airport was jammed full of holiday travellers, desperate to get to Grandma's house so they could stuff their faces and watch the Patriots beat the living shit out of the Lions.  Due to security concerns, there was a back up at the carry-on and basckscatter checkpoint.  At the front of the line, a heavily armed man examined IDs and Boarding Passes before asking if the customer wanted to be irradiated or groped.  Travellers were warned that there might be up to a two hour wait, and the line twisted and turned upon itself a half dozen times.  

A flash of light, and a clap of thunder.  No one noticed the pale-skinned man with dark hair and a parka that had just walked in the airport and went up to the end of the line.  The bomb strapped to his chest was filled with nails and ball bearings, and ripped through the crowd like wet tissue paper.  As the smoke cleared, the TVs overhead began broadcasting images of carnage from across the country, of terrorists bypassing the hijacking altogether, and killing Americans who were patiently waiting to be considered Safe.

Cain

#128
November 18, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Its exactly what I'd do, as a terrorist.  Planes are ideal, but crowded places are also very good.

The Good Reverend Roger

#129
November 18, 2010, 07:14:17 PM
I'd though of that myself...And Cain, I have to disagree that planes are ideal.

If they kill people in the presence of the people allegedly keeping us safe, no end of hilarity would ensue.  If they did it twice in a day, one on each coast, they could just sit back and watch us devour ourselves.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

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#130
November 18, 2010, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 18, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Ahem...


It was a Wednesday morning.  The JFK airport was jammed full of holiday travellers, desperate to get to Grandma's house so they could stuff their faces and watch the Patriots beat the living shit out of the Lions.  Due to security concerns, there was a back up at the carry-on and basckscatter checkpoint.  At the front of the line, a heavily armed man examined IDs and Boarding Passes before asking if the customer wanted to be irradiated or groped.  Travellers were warned that there might be up to a two hour wait, and the line twisted and turned upon itself a half dozen times.  

A flash of light, and a clap of thunder.  No one noticed the pale-skinned man with dark hair and a parka that had just walked in the airport and went up to the end of the line.  The bomb strapped to his chest was filled with nails and ball bearings, and ripped through the crowd like wet tissue paper.  As the smoke cleared, the TVs overhead began broadcasting images of carnage from across the country, of terrorists bypassing the hijacking altogether, and killing Americans who were patiently waiting to be considered Safe.

*shiver*
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LMNO

#131
November 18, 2010, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: Subetai on November 18, 2010, 07:12:22 PM
Its exactly what I'd do, as a terrorist.  Planes are ideal, but crowded places are also very good.

It's because people forget that terrorism is about, you know, creating terror, and not about stealing planes.

Cain

#132
November 18, 2010, 07:18:52 PM
Well, there are lots of ideals, when it comes to killing lots of people. 

But given so much has been put into "making planes safe" planes are actually a hard target now, at least in the public eye.  So they would pretty much count as people being killed in the presence of people (well, systems) meant to keep them safe.

LMNO

#133
November 18, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
If I were doing this, I'd look for any cluster of citizens waiting to get through a single security point-- generally this means that all areas of approach other than that single point are unguarded. 

For example, the entrance of any football statdium 30 minutes before kickoff.

The Good Reverend Roger

#134
November 18, 2010, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: LMNO, PhD on November 18, 2010, 07:22:13 PM
If I were doing this, I'd look for any cluster of citizens waiting to get through a single security point-- generally this means that all areas of approach other than that single point are unguarded. 

For example, the entrance of any football statdium 30 minutes before kickoff.

Or in WalMart at opening time on Black Friday.

Oh, and of course you realize that we're going to become "persons of interest" just for discussing this.  :lol:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.
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