London Riots: An Alternate Juxtaposition

[Cramulus]

I think it's also important to note here that the riots were not a unified movement. The nucleus which started rioting about Mark Duggan probably wouldn't have wanted it to go that far.

Their collective breach of everyday rules created a very very large Temporary Autonomous Zone. That atmosphere is ripe for opportunists to take what they can get. The opportunists sustained the TAZ by not letting things return to normal... by the end, we're only hearing news about looters. And it's easy to look at that and say "This is a shitty way of revolting against the government." And you'd be right, but again, I think that's missing the point.

[Disco Pickle]

I'm not seeing the part of the image that says capitalism is only useful for killing people

It mentions sword, club, sword, and system of economics.  All (supposedly) weapons used for killing.  At least that's how I read it.  Maybe using "only" useful is a bit too much.  

Capitalism has always been built on stacks of dead bodies.  It's just that, until recently, most of those dead bodies were brown, and in unfurnished countries that nobody gave a fuck about.

I'm having trouble thinking of another system that wouldn't also have to be built on a stack of dead bodies.

[Nephew Twiddleton]

If i recall there HAD been peaceful protests leading up to this. but uh we didnt hear about that in the news very much did we?

[Doktor Howl]

I think it's also important to note here that the riots were not a unified movement. The nucleus which started rioting about Mark Duggan probably wouldn't have wanted it to go that far.

Their collective breach of everyday rules created a very very large Temporary Autonomous Zone. That atmosphere is ripe for opportunists to take what they can get. The opportunists sustained the TAZ by not letting things return to normal... by the end, we're only hearing news about looters. And it's easy to look at that and say "This is a shitty way of revolting against the government." And you'd be right, but again, I think that's missing the point.

Sometimes a big stick is what the situation requires.  Even opportunistic looters can have a part to play, albeit unintentionally.

[Disco Pickle]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

[Doktor Howl]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

No worries.  Soon we'll have riots of our own.  The teabaggers thought they could get excited?  Ho ho!  The left is harder to piss off, but far more explosive when they finally lose their shit.

[Adios]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

I'm not the one sitting here telling them they are doing it wrong. I wonder, did you cheer for the ME riots?

[Adios]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

No worries.  Soon we'll have riots of our own.  The teabaggers thought they could get excited?  Ho ho!  The left is harder to piss off, but far more explosive when they finally lose their shit.

I need to get a machete for my wheelchair. And a flag of some sort. As soon as it comes in I'll post a pic for wompage.

[Doktor Howl]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

No worries.  Soon we'll have riots of our own.  The teabaggers thought they could get excited?  Ho ho!  The left is harder to piss off, but far more explosive when they finally lose their shit.

I need to get a machete for my wheelchair. And a flag of some sort. As soon as it comes in I'll post a pic for wompage.

You want cannons or machine guns?

Or a big bronze ram?

ETA:  I need a face-on pic of you in a cowboy hat.  Neutral background, please.

[Cramulus]

Disco, going back to my question --- do you think the filth of London would be in a better place right now if they had only pursued change through civil public discourse and letter writing?

and do you think there is a time when violent resistance is necessary? (for example, is Arab Spring going too far as well?)

If so, how do you tell the difference between a situation where you should make signs and a situation where you should strap some baguettes to your head and flip the fuck out?

[Disco Pickle]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

I'm not the one sitting here telling them they are doing it wrong. I wonder, did you cheer for the ME riots?

I'm unfamiliar with them, or at least that label for them.  Can't say one way or another.  Link to more information?

[Adios]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

No worries.  Soon we'll have riots of our own.  The teabaggers thought they could get excited?  Ho ho!  The left is harder to piss off, but far more explosive when they finally lose their shit.

I need to get a machete for my wheelchair. And a flag of some sort. As soon as it comes in I'll post a pic for wompage.

You want cannons or machine guns?

Or a big bronze ram?

ETA:  I need a face-on pic of you in a cowboy hat.  Neutral background, please.

Chain guns, pic in a day or two.

[Adios]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

I'm not the one sitting here telling them they are doing it wrong. I wonder, did you cheer for the ME riots?

I'm unfamiliar with them, or at least that label for them.  Can't say one way or another.  Link to more information?

If you are unaware of the recent unrest in the Middle East then we have very little to say to each other.

[Doktor Howl]

It sure is easy to be critical when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, no?

It sure is easy to be supportive of the riots when you are safe in your living room far away from what is happening, and none of your friends or family were the ones being killed, no?

I'm not the one sitting here telling them they are doing it wrong. I wonder, did you cheer for the ME riots?

I'm unfamiliar with them, or at least that label for them.  Can't say one way or another.  Link to more information?

Not sure how you could have possibly missed them.

[Cramulus]

he's referring to the chain of riots and uprisings in the mid-east

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Spring