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Serious question: spicy food

Started by Golden Applesauce, August 08, 2012, 04:47:26 AM

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Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:44:41 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 04:52:13 AM

Give it a day or two.

This not only happens with spicy food, that can happen with synthetic candies that are meant to be "sour".
Jesus fuck, I've burned my tastebuds off (metaphorically, if not literally) for a few hours with sour candy before, but never for two days. (Then again, I didn't eat half a pound, either)...

The day when it happened it felt like i had actually burnt it with boiling water (kind of like when one actually burns oneself with a hot soup or a hot coffee)

Makes me wonder what kind of acids and their ph power are instilled in sour candies...

I mean, sour candies and spicy stuff is actually a type of acid right?
Yeah, it actually does feel like you scalded it. (And I've scalded my tongue enough to know).  :lulz:

I'm not sure, but I would be inclined to believe it's the acidic elements that do it, yeah.

Hmmm... this does raise interesting questions about the chemical make up of spice.
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Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 04:52:13 AM

Give it a day or two.

This not only happens with spicy food, that can happen with synthetic candies that are meant to be "sour".
Jesus fuck, I've burned my tastebuds off (metaphorically, if not literally) for a few hours with sour candy before, but never for two days. (Then again, I didn't eat half a pound, either)...

The day when it happened it felt like i had actually burnt it with boiling water (kind of like when one actually burns oneself with a hot soup or a hot coffee)

Makes me wonder what kind of acids and their ph power are instilled in sour candies...

I mean, sour candies and spicy stuff is actually a type of acid right?
Sour candies are as acidic as car batteries, apparently.
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Quote from: Secret Agent GARBO on August 08, 2012, 05:49:50 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 04:52:13 AM

Give it a day or two.

This not only happens with spicy food, that can happen with synthetic candies that are meant to be "sour".
Jesus fuck, I've burned my tastebuds off (metaphorically, if not literally) for a few hours with sour candy before, but never for two days. (Then again, I didn't eat half a pound, either)...

The day when it happened it felt like i had actually burnt it with boiling water (kind of like when one actually burns oneself with a hot soup or a hot coffee)

Makes me wonder what kind of acids and their ph power are instilled in sour candies...

I mean, sour candies and spicy stuff is actually a type of acid right?
Sour candies are as acidic as car batteries, apparently.
And a good number of acids taste sour, so that stands to reason.

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Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 08, 2012, 05:48:00 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:44:41 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 04:52:13 AM

Give it a day or two.

This not only happens with spicy food, that can happen with synthetic candies that are meant to be "sour".
Jesus fuck, I've burned my tastebuds off (metaphorically, if not literally) for a few hours with sour candy before, but never for two days. (Then again, I didn't eat half a pound, either)...

The day when it happened it felt like i had actually burnt it with boiling water (kind of like when one actually burns oneself with a hot soup or a hot coffee)

Makes me wonder what kind of acids and their ph power are instilled in sour candies...

I mean, sour candies and spicy stuff is actually a type of acid right?
Yeah, it actually does feel like you scalded it. (And I've scalded my tongue enough to know).  :lulz:

I'm not sure, but I would be inclined to believe it's the acidic elements that do it, yeah.

Hmmm... this does raise interesting questions about the chemical make up of spice.

The spicy chemicals in hot peppers are alkaloid. I believe that so are the ones in horseradish. But of course, some of the most dangerous chemicals are alkaloids.
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Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 08, 2012, 06:29:48 AM
Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 08, 2012, 05:48:00 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:44:41 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:42:30 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 04:52:13 AM

Give it a day or two.

This not only happens with spicy food, that can happen with synthetic candies that are meant to be "sour".
Jesus fuck, I've burned my tastebuds off (metaphorically, if not literally) for a few hours with sour candy before, but never for two days. (Then again, I didn't eat half a pound, either)...

The day when it happened it felt like i had actually burnt it with boiling water (kind of like when one actually burns oneself with a hot soup or a hot coffee)

Makes me wonder what kind of acids and their ph power are instilled in sour candies...

I mean, sour candies and spicy stuff is actually a type of acid right?
Yeah, it actually does feel like you scalded it. (And I've scalded my tongue enough to know).  :lulz:

I'm not sure, but I would be inclined to believe it's the acidic elements that do it, yeah.

Hmmm... this does raise interesting questions about the chemical make up of spice.

The spicy chemicals in hot peppers are alkaloid. I believe that so are the ones in horseradish. But of course, some of the most dangerous chemicals are alkaloids.
Hmm, quite true Nigel, quite true.

Freeky

Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 08, 2012, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:40:32 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:38:26 AM

Just try to eat non abrasive and as close to non-flavoured foods as you can find for a while.
This is actual sound advice. Or, alternatively, you can eat nothing but wasabi covered orange slices. Hair of the dog, and Discordian penance all in one.

Actually, you should outdo yourself and regularly spray mace in your mouth. I've seen people eat mace. It happened at the meetup Trip came to in Connecticut.
I knew a guy who did that, to show how mace isn't a big deal.  When me and his girlfriend started retching from the small amount of mist that ended up not going in his mouth, he went into the bathroom and sprayed it in the sink.

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:lol:

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One can build certain resistance to certain substances...

i mean geez, if one eats wasabi every single day (or pepper spray for that matter), after a while it stops bothering you -

either because you destroyed your nerves or because you are used to it.

English breakfast tea used to make me wretch, but now it seems ok.
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Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 07:01:06 AM

One can build certain resistance to certain substances...

i mean geez, if one eats wasabi every single day (or pepper spray for that matter), after a while it stops bothering you -

either because you destroyed your nerves or because you are used to it.

English breakfast tea used to make me wretch, but now it seems ok.
I've never lost taste from eating spicy foods, but (as previously mentioned) have from sour candy.

I wonder if that's because I indulge i spicy foods with far more frequency? Interesting to ponder.

Nephew Twiddleton

Quote from: Freeky Queen of DERP on August 08, 2012, 06:47:15 AM
Quote from: Nephew Hiroshima on August 08, 2012, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:40:32 AM
Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 08, 2012, 05:38:26 AM

Just try to eat non abrasive and as close to non-flavoured foods as you can find for a while.
This is actual sound advice. Or, alternatively, you can eat nothing but wasabi covered orange slices. Hair of the dog, and Discordian penance all in one.

Actually, you should outdo yourself and regularly spray mace in your mouth. I've seen people eat mace. It happened at the meetup Trip came to in Connecticut.
I knew a guy who did that, to show how mace isn't a big deal.  When me and his girlfriend started retching from the small amount of mist that ended up not going in his mouth, he went into the bathroom and sprayed it in the sink.

QuoteAlso, don't decide to go for a walk to the nearest store for ciggies in Connecticut. You won't get there and you'll run into Richter who will get concerned about your heat exhaustion.

:lol:

True story. Mind you, I ran into Richter et al about an hour after I left.

That was one big ass hill.

I ended up bumming off of Dimo.
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I had thought that capsaicin (chili peppers) and allyl isothiocyanate (horseradish / wasabi) tasted spicy because they were either highly acidic or highly basic, and that what you were tasting was an actual chemical burn.

Turns out that they just bind to the protein (TRPV1) that's normally turned on by fire or boiling water and is involved in body temperature. So as far as your senses are concerned, you might as well be lighting matches against your tongue, but you aren't actually causing permanent tissue damage. Allyl isothiocyanate also binds to TRPA1, which as far as I can tell exists only to make it painful to eat tear gas and other toxic substances.

Which is good, because I still have 1/3 of the bag left and after you get over the primal burning sensation they're pretty tasty.
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Yes, I was gonna mention that, but you beat me to it. To steal from the show Good Eats, our taste buds are kind of like a lock, specific types of compounds unlock specific taste buds, completing a circuit and sending the signal 'salty', 'sweet', 'sour' etc. Capcasin, is like a taste bud hacker and unlocks any taste bud it comes in contact with. That confuses the whole system and the brain responds with 'hot'. Or in some cases, 'HOLYFUCKINGHELLWHATDIDYOUJUSTSTICKINYOURMOUTH, STUPIDMONKEY!'

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Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Ladies and not-ladies, this is why it's important to make sure you fully understand what something is before putting it in your mouth. Unless you are Roger.

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Quote from: Phox, The Abdicator on August 08, 2012, 05:12:00 AM
Ladies and not-ladies, this is why it's important to make sure you fully understand what something is before putting it in your mouth. Unless you are Roger.

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