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Re: Re: Freedom in Houston.
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2013, 06:29:19 am »
I think you're missing the larger point where you murdered a joke with common pedantry short-barreled rifles.

Except, that's what you're here for, so I guess, good for you then. Well done. You've shown us all the depths of your cleverness. Thank you.

Now THATS funny...

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2013, 07:20:33 am »
The asshat is defintely one of bink's friend. I have to figure out who. Going with that Jeff Hamiliton, Andrew Bitner, or Taylor Bloom from the HFT.

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2013, 08:32:37 am »
I didn't say rifles, I said assault rifles.  Which incidentally, none of those fit the description of.

Although the example presented isn't capable of automatic fire, the AKM pistol here could very well be made from an automatic AK variant if someone was willing to do the conversion. Likewise, an M4/M16 could be made as an sbr/"pistol" just like the many AR-15 pistols on the market today, so realistically speaking, the concepts presented in the examples i gave still hold water...

So apart from the fact they're not selective fire weapons, do not provision to fire from the shoulder, have lower effective ranges than assault rifles and, in one case, don't have a detachable cartridge, they're just like assault rifles.

By that standard, every firearm from the musket onwards is an assault rifle.

Oy veh...

full auto SBRs do exist. And like assault rifles, they're good for engagements under 300m, fire intermediate cartidges and are select fire. I can see your point in saying that an SBR isn't an assault rifle, but in all honesty, cutting down an assault rifle/strapping a short barrel on an assault rifle reciever is very possible.

let's get into the harder waters of disentagling firearms nomenclature, though. Is a full auto pistol calibre carbine still a pistol calibre carbine, or an SMG?

YES, YES, it is very important to get bogged down in semantics! Please also quote Monty Python at me baby, u love it?
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2013, 08:56:05 am »

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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2013, 09:15:47 am »



This whole idea of "persistant identity" is difficult for me to grasp....
 
Regardless, at this juncture, I can only concede and admit defeat.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2013, 09:21:24 am »
I didn't say rifles, I said assault rifles.  Which incidentally, none of those fit the description of.

Although the example presented isn't capable of automatic fire, the AKM pistol here could very well be made from an automatic AK variant if someone was willing to do the conversion. Likewise, an M4/M16 could be made as an sbr/"pistol" just like the many AR-15 pistols on the market today, so realistically speaking, the concepts presented in the examples i gave still hold water...

So apart from the fact they're not selective fire weapons, do not provision to fire from the shoulder, have lower effective ranges than assault rifles and, in one case, don't have a detachable cartridge, they're just like assault rifles.

By that standard, every firearm from the musket onwards is an assault rifle.

Oy veh...

full auto SBRs do exist. And like assault rifles, they're good for engagements under 300m, fire intermediate cartidges and are select fire. I can see your point in saying that an SBR isn't an assault rifle, but in all honesty, cutting down an assault rifle/strapping a short barrel on an assault rifle reciever is very possible.

let's get into the harder waters of disentagling firearms nomenclature, though. Is a full auto pistol calibre carbine still a pistol calibre carbine, or an SMG?

YES, YES, it is very important to get bogged down in semantics! Please also quote Monty Python at me baby, u love it?

Everything else aside...whats with the bit about monty python?

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2013, 09:23:12 am »
You might want to work on that whole "persistent identity" concept for a while first.
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2013, 09:33:13 am »
You might want to work on that whole "persistent identity" concept for a while first.

I think I'm getting the hang of it; I just have to maintain the same personality in a coherant manner not only within a given thread or board, but anytime I post under this account. Its got a steep learning curve, but total immersion in such an alien concept is a good study aid, and I think I may be able to use the concept fluently by the end of the month.

Regardless, what was the implication you were making about monty python? It warrented effort to type, so it must have some sort of relevance....

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2013, 12:38:30 pm »
Have you got, like, assburgers or some shit?

Honest question, I like you, you seem quite self aware and able to take shit on board. Then, suddenly and for no apparent reason, you go full-retard. What gives?
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2013, 01:41:13 pm »
Have you got, like, assburgers or some shit?

Honest question, I like you, you seem quite self aware and able to take shit on board. Then, suddenly and for no apparent reason, you go full-retard. What gives?

No...not assburgers.

Possibly bipolar. For example, right now, I'm in a sort of mood that's complacent and willing to discuss things with civility with you. Other times, I may be in the sort of mood that makes it such that simply contradicting someone's viewpoint (regardless of whether I agree with it or not) seems like the most hilarious joke on the planet which simply must be perpetrated.

Combine extremes of mood throughout the day with diametrically opposed facets within my worldview, and you end up with a guy who will engage in self-reflection and be truely decent and empathetic in one thread/timeframe/state of mind, and then turn into a militant neo-nazi seeking to simply make people's lives a living hell for fun when the mood changes.

On a good note, though, it's very cathartic. I end up pissing people off with the worst of myself, and then I end up being confronted with "dude, you're a fuckin' dickhead" and it really makes me have to think long and hard about what the fuck is going on with my brain, with my world views, and with other little things too...

Regardless, it's no excuse for me to waltz into your community and shit on it for lulz or catharsis or whatever. It almost like I've derailed every thread I've walked into, and I've pissed alot of people off...and not likely to their benefit either, so it all ends up with 100% profit for myself and everyone else being completely annoyed by my rantings. Right now, I'm willing to say sorry about it, but in 12 hours -- or even just a thread or two over -- I'm probably going to be spouting annoyances again.

Still, I'm working on things -- afterall, what I said to nigel wasn't 100% sarcasm. The whole deal about "persistent identity" is somewhat true. I'm used to communicating anonymously -- devoid of personal responsibility or even the need to support the same stream of logic so long as I can abandon it and switch to something that will recieve more positive social strokes. Having to communicate as an individual human being and not simply a sinlge-meme entity is literally an alien concept as to how I'm used to the internet. Again, excuses suck, but hey -- you asked for insight into my though processes, so here you go.

lel...the whole situation makes me think I chose my user name all those years ago for a good reason, though...

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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2013, 02:36:49 pm »
Doesn't sound like bipolar but wft do I know, I only got diagnosed with it, never thought the term made any kind of sense, tbh.

It's fine to be a prick from time to time, take it from me, I'm a prick a lot but getting stuck in prick mode is something I think you should and (probably) could pull off no bother, with a bit of effort.

Unless you've convinced yourself it's impossible, that is.
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« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2013, 02:50:37 pm »
You might want to work on that whole "persistent identity" concept for a while first.

I think I'm getting the hang of it; I just have to maintain the same personality in a coherant manner not only within a given thread or board, but anytime I post under this account.

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« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2013, 03:15:52 pm »
Can this thread be about how irritating it is when internet people self-diagnose themselves with mental illnesses and refuse to get professional evaluations and/or treatment?

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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2013, 03:47:21 pm »
Can this thread be about how irritating it is when internet people self-diagnose themselves with mental illnesses and refuse to get professional evaluations and/or treatment?

Yes.
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2013, 03:48:53 pm »
Have you got, like, assburgers or some shit?

Honest question, I like you, you seem quite self aware and able to take shit on board. Then, suddenly and for no apparent reason, you go full-retard. What gives?

No...not assburgers.

Possibly bipolar. For example, right now, I'm in a sort of mood that's complacent and willing to discuss things with civility with you. Other times, I may be in the sort of mood that makes it such that simply contradicting someone's viewpoint (regardless of whether I agree with it or not) seems like the most hilarious joke on the planet which simply must be perpetrated.

Combine extremes of mood throughout the day with diametrically opposed facets within my worldview, and you end up with a guy who will engage in self-reflection and be truely decent and empathetic in one thread/timeframe/state of mind, and then turn into a militant neo-nazi seeking to simply make people's lives a living hell for fun when the mood changes.

On a good note, though, it's very cathartic. I end up pissing people off with the worst of myself, and then I end up being confronted with "dude, you're a fuckin' dickhead" and it really makes me have to think long and hard about what the fuck is going on with my brain, with my world views, and with other little things too...

Regardless, it's no excuse for me to waltz into your community and shit on it for lulz or catharsis or whatever. It almost like I've derailed every thread I've walked into, and I've pissed alot of people off...and not likely to their benefit either, so it all ends up with 100% profit for myself and everyone else being completely annoyed by my rantings. Right now, I'm willing to say sorry about it, but in 12 hours -- or even just a thread or two over -- I'm probably going to be spouting annoyances again.

Still, I'm working on things -- afterall, what I said to nigel wasn't 100% sarcasm. The whole deal about "persistent identity" is somewhat true. I'm used to communicating anonymously -- devoid of personal responsibility or even the need to support the same stream of logic so long as I can abandon it and switch to something that will recieve more positive social strokes. Having to communicate as an individual human being and not simply a sinlge-meme entity is literally an alien concept as to how I'm used to the internet. Again, excuses suck, but hey -- you asked for insight into my though processes, so here you go.

lel...the whole situation makes me think I chose my user name all those years ago for a good reason, though...

Oh. So a juvenile attention-whore.

OK, I'll ignore you then. Not worth my time.
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