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No worries.

Personally, I wouldn't miss the next few years for the world.

So, I have two (2) questions for you, as follows:

1. How many votes did TSF lose over his own unconditional support for Israel?

2. In the end, what difference did the lose of those votes actually make?

1. looks like about 2 Million

2. It didn't make any difference, because Harris didn't have a better policy.

That's absolute bullshit.  Her policy was restraint.  Rubio, under the Trump administration is "Kill everyone in Hamas, collateral damage notwithstanding."

But progs gonna be progs and the slightest impurity is as bad as the worst offender.

Yeah well didn't he who shall not be named say he was going to torpedo NPR?

Yes.

And I can't agree about the Guardian - though I believe the US version is slightly different than ours.

You have not seen enough of the pandering fools that comprise American media.  I just watched Joe Scarborough and his sidekick wossname crawl into Mar A Lago to kiss Trump's spotty arse.

Hey, d'ya want a laugh? Guess who started to come off anti-depressants after 50 glorious years on the day of the Presidential debate? My partner says she can tell I'm off them because I am getting increasingly snippy. I honestly can't think why . . .

Because we've all heard this joke before?  Or at least our grandparents did.

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

 Along with work to help for when you inevitably become one

That's not resistance.  That's cowering.

But I have to ask:  What work to help will do any good when they scoop you up coming out of the grocery store?

Problem is, liberals don't tend to watch or listen to that sort of structured program.


If they would, they'd be right wing.

Every single attempt at left wing programming has failed due to low ratings, and either went under or went "centrist".

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

Has the term "resistance" undergone this much semantic drift?  Not that surviving isn't a reasonable goal to have, mais ce n'est pas la résistance.

If your resistance doesn't include molotov cocktails, industrial sabotage, and the occasional drive-by egging, I think you're Doing it Wrong.

It's been eight years since Trump was elected the first time, and nothing anyone said or did in that interval stopped him from getting a second turn.  But I guess you all just weren't pointing out the issues with his presidency hard enough.  So let's all band together and talk about everything Trump is doing wrong, and how the people who voted for him were mistaken.  That'll stop him.

This is so people can pretend that they're fighting fascism.

By hiding from it.

I am a bit confused by your boss, a dictator has taken power, and that makes her more eager to make weapons?  Isn't that putting weapons at the disposal of the dictator?

I think she just wants less humans, but I'm not going to question it.

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

mutual aid, localism, taking care of your neighbors and building in person connections.  That absolutely can include local politicians, but anyone above a municipal or county level is too big to be worth considering.

So, "hunkering down and hoping you're not a target."

I was in the lab binging on grant writing when the Gaetz ouster happened.  I'll take a read.

Damn it to hell Howl don't you ever get tired of being right!?
Just a quick quote from the never published introduction to Animal Farm [pub. 1945]
"If liberty means anything at all it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
Of course he was talking about the freedom of the press which, considering the shit we are all currently in, is somewhat ironic. 

Our press right now is pathetic.  Morning Joe Scarborough and wossname, his sidekick, went to Mar A Lago to kiss the ring and apologize for saying mean things about Trump.

MSNBC is hemorraging money again and is up for sale again.

Fox?   

Right now I can trust NPR, I can kinda trust the Guardian (sorta) and that's about it.

it looks like they lost a lot of votes because Leftists stayed home to me.

The term for this behavior is "being the architect of your own reward."

Well sure, and you can be angry at folks who didn't vote all you want,

Gonna.  Buncha ivory tower nerds.

but that doesn't inspire them to vote.

Nothing will.  That's been proven.

Meanwhile a candidate that actually speaks to their desires probably would.

Nope.  They'd find some reason to get the fucking vapors again.  Nothing is good enough for the Tumblr crowd.

Offering to put Republicans in the cabinet, pledging to be the toughest on immigration, and otherwise courting conservatives didn't get any of them to vote for her.

Well, since she knew the left was never going to vote for her, she went for a coalition.  It didn't work.  Shit happens.

Nobody is going to kiss your ass for your vote.  You know this, and I know this.  But you got to show how pure you are, at the expense of the bottom 50% here, the Ukrainians, and the Palestinians.

Well done, that man.

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"US Muslims Who Voted For Trump Now Upset With His Pro-Israel Cabinet"

"We are very disappointed. It seems like this administration has been packed entirely with neoconservatives and extremely pro-Israel, pro-war people."

I'm really tempted to make more fun of them for the choice they made. But, they were far from being the only group who made that exact same choice, and have already come to regret it.

Here's the link to this article:      US Muslims Who Voted for TSF Now Upset

The Resistance 2.0 is going to have to make contact with, and enlist these people in our cause. And, I don't foresee it being very long before they're ready to disavow the "Dark Side." My hope is that the Democratic Party doesn't simply use them, and then abandon them again.

Of course it will, and it will do the same to you.  If you think the Democrats are a resistance you aren't at all serious about resisting.

I agree with you, but I gotta ask:  Who do you see as the most effective kernel of resistance?

Whoopsie.

Too late.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-confirms-plan-declare-national-emergency-military-mass/story?id=115963448

Resist all you like, nobody will care.

The avalanche has already started.  It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
    --Kosh

Pretty much this.

Remember 2017-2021?  Remember all the bad shit that happened, natural disasters and the boat getting stuck excluded (as those were not forced errors, at least not completely.).

Remember when they were separating families?  Boy, it's a good thing resistance 1.0 stopped that, right?

Oh, wait.  They did nothing of the kind.  ONE (1) man tried to stop it by force, and he was shot dead in Tucson.  While making an armed attack on a concentration camp for kiddies isn't strictly necessary for a resistance, there wasn't really anything else that happened on every level.

Now I'm hearing that Resistance 2.0 is saying that people should be building mutual support networks and growing food, etc.  That's not a stupid thing to do, but it's not "resistance". It is "hunkering down and hoping that this thing passes over you."

There is no resistance 2.0 for the same reason there wasn't a resistance 1.0.  There is a lot of shit talking on the internet, but that isn't resistance, that's just normal everyday criticism of bullshit that, in the end, accomplishes nothing.

What people don't understand is that the rules have changed.  The oligarchs that have been put into power don't care about your protests, your shit-talking, or anything else of that nature.  They are in office to make bank at your expense, and since Trump can't *legally* get reelected, he doesn't even care what his own voters think anymore.

Protest, and you become "the enemy within," upon whom Trump has promised to deploy the military.  Sounds glorious, but The White Rose, a REAL resistance movement, was utterly crushed the very first time that happened, back in 1930s Crazytown.  They became martyrs, but not until the problem was over.

Talkin shit on the internet is as useful as it has ever been.  Just don't do it on X.

Right now, there are only 2 methods of resistance are:

1.  Band up, crowd fund, and bring court cases against gerrymandering or voter suppression actions.  This takes money.  A LOT of money.  And don't forget that the majority of the Supreme Court are asshole dominionists that make this administration look like normality.

2.  Violence.  You and I both know how this ends.

So yeah, go ahead and jabber about Resistance 2.0.  There's only one person I know that is actually doing The Work, and she's going to get fuck all for help from anyone outside of her immediate environment.

But remember that talking is all people are going to do.  Enjoy the dopamine rush, just don't confuse it for actually altering the situation.

Me, I plan to mock the far right when their grocery bill goes up 22% (NOT including the effect of deporting 80% of our labor force in the food production sector).  I plan to mercilessly mock the far left for refusing to hold their noses and vote Harris because she wasn't perfect in every way.  She counseled "restraint" with Gaza, and Marco Rubio is on record as saying Hamas has to be eliminated by any means necessary, collateral damage be damned.

No matter what your political affiliations are, if you did not vote Harris for the simple reason of stopping Trump, I shit on you from a great height.  YOU did this.  I am not interested in your excuses, but please speak up, because I was into the Thai food last night and I need targeting data for the inevitable, horrible results.

Now, fuck off and enjoy the results of your moral purity.