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#1111
I have a friend who does web page design.  One of her clients is a barber shop/hair salon.  My friend is white, but she's also a contractor for them, she doesn't work in the business itself, she just makes their page and keeps it maintained.  Every employee in the place is black.

Is that racist?   Perhaps, but the place caters to an exclusively black clientele, black people have different hair than white people and even if there are white hair stylists who specialize in black hair having white people working in the place would lose them business and interfere with their business environment.


As far as Fleetwood Mac yes, it was addressed, that's where the album Rumors came from, them trying to work it out.  I don't know about lawsuits, I know they had a joint ownership model, not a sole proprietership, which makes things work rather differently.
#1112
Quote from: Pippa Twiddleton on December 24, 2012, 05:47:27 PM
No- i get it. A band is also a small business. I understand all that. If i break my arm the band doesnt play for 6 weeks. If pete breaks his arm the band doesnt play for 6 weeks. That all makes sense. Being sexually attracted to a bandmate and having them find out by me telling them i want them out of the band doesnt. If anything i just suck up my feelings or address the problem and try and work through it. Or go on tour- as im sure that would kill any attraction. Bands dont really go through lawsuits though unless theyre signed.

I'm pretty sure Fleetwood Mac broke up over sexual attraction.
#1113
Discordian Recipes / Potato Leek Soup
December 24, 2012, 10:30:44 AM
OK, I figure sharing a recipe is a good way to say hi.  I always find this one tasty.

This is for making in a 2 and a half gallon pot.

1 Gallon milk
2 large leeks
1 pound butter
approx 5 pounds potatoes (I don't measure them that way, I cut them until they reach a certain point in the pot, the same level as the milk reaches)
soy sauce (added to a certain color, I'll describe that in more detail in the recipe)
3 tablespoons powdered red pepper
1 clove garlic

Chop potatoes into roughly 2" cubes until they fill pot a bit less than half way, wash and then cover with water and gallon of milk, put on medium low heat

mince garlic and dice leeks, sautee in 1/4 lb butter with pepper powder over medium high heat until leeks and butter start to brown.   Stir often.  Once brown add to large pot.

Add soy sauce until there are consistent swirls of darkness but stop before the color of the soup fully changes.  Cover and cook for 1 hour.  Do not allow the soup to boil. 

Add remaining butter and cook until it is melted, stir thouroughly before serving.

cream can replace the butter in the soup to good effect.  Irish reds work well for the potato, russets are a bit starchy.


#1114
Quote from: Alty on December 23, 2012, 09:06:34 PM
The again, where exactly does it end for small business? What if you don't want to employ someone who's black because you're a racist piece of garbage?

On one hand, its their business and it may fail or succeed based in the small choices they make and the relationships they build or fail yo build.

On the other hand they're a racist piece of garbage.

This guys sounds like an asshole who needs to get his monkey brain in check and/or get laid.

If your business only has 5 or 10 employees and they are all white, that's not going to trip any discrimination detection algorithms unless you live in an area with a disproportionate amount of black people.  You can't say you didn't hire any of the qualified non white applicants because they weren't white, but that doesn't mean anyone can catch you or that any of those non hired applicants have grounds for a suit as long as those hired were of equivalent qualification.  You can say you didn't hire them because you wouldn't feel comfortable working with them, and the fact that is because they are black is irrelevent.

The, perhaps awful, part is that if you are a racist running a small business you shouldn't hire blacks.  Even if you are a benevolent racist who wants to do the right thing but is genuinely uncomfortable around blacks you shouldn't.  You'll hurt your own productivity and they'll notice pretty quickly which will cause a hostile work environment.  And if you ever admit your discomfort you will never be able to fire them, even if they do bad work, without facing a justified discrimination lawsuit. 

The good thing about small businesses is that they are much easier to influence.  That dentist has a small number of clients, if all the friends of that woman and her husband stop patronizing him, that is a significant chunk of his business.  On the other hand if she worked for a corporate consortium of some sort and was fired for this (which would then be illegal, I believe) her friends and family would represent no financial threat.  A dentist who never hires black people is less likely to get black clients, how much that matters depends on the community the racist dentist is in, but the less it matters for him financially the less of a problem it is anyway, because there are less black people being unfairly denied a job.