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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: May 06, 2019, 02:07:21 am »
Well, the "blood of Jesus" is meant to be taken more symbolically than literally, like, communion is following the tradition set during the Last Supper, and not USUALLY an attempt by the ritual's facilitator to turn the congregation into vampires.

That said, this crowd definitely looks a few tires short of a monster truck rally. I think this woman is cool for finding a peaceful and classy way to prove them wrong.

That's a matter of serious dispute among Christians.  Catholics and Orthodox are actually drinking blood, according the the local Catholic priest, who preached about it a lot.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: April 19, 2019, 10:12:51 pm »

I have to ask at what stage this shit becomes actually like... actionable. I know we have some people who know the score around here. When does this level of blatant law-breaking become something that legally can be turned into some sort of punishment? Or is the President entirely above the law outside of Congress slapping their hands?

All these double-speak declarations that are later passed on as "jokes" arent even funny.

I feel like folks that claim it was a joke need to explain the joke more often.  Being called on it and just called an asshole makes the defensive and then they double down, insisting people don't have a sense of humor.  Having to explain it might get them to realize it really isn't funny.

Apple Talk / Re: Silver-Screen Scumbags: Damnation Doesn't Deter
« on: April 19, 2019, 10:09:24 pm »
thats the premise of the movie, a person whose entire life was a shit situation and everyone walking all over her one day starts killing people, not because they are an unhuman demon, but because they had no safety nets or support, society left them out in the cold to die, so at one point they snapped and stopped caring as others stopped caring for them...

Then theres the Joker... whats his catchphrase? “All it takes is one bad day to reduce the sanest man alive to lunacy. That's how far the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.”

And as cliche as it might sound, theres some truth to Nietzsches saying "He who fights with monsters, must take care of not becoming one himself".... in the sense that sure, serial killers tend to see their victims not as a fellow human but as objects, but so are we doing the same thing considering them not a fellow human but a "monster"...

Wheter we like it or not were all human, despite all the sick motivations and flawed logic that gets used to do something.
I think your first point really gets at what chafes my cloaca about characters like this sometimes; assuming they're presented as a flawed hooman bean and not a mustache-twirling evildoer, it is frustrating as all hell to watch them get so entrenched in their own shitty life situations, mental illnesses, and harmful neuroses that they "turn into" the practically inhuman murder-cannibal-psychotic clowns that they're known as. I'm not going to make a case for the walking ham that is The Joker to be "just a widdle misunderstood babu", but seeing the likes of [insert murderer driven by mental illness here] get demonized because they're up shit creek without so much as a raft, I feel bad for the bastards. If Patrick Bateman had decent human beings as coworkers, chances are he wouldn't have moidled them. Doesn't change that he has psychopathy, but it would mean that he didn't ruin his life because of it.

I normally hate the "he who fights monsters becomes monsters" quip, but your recontextualization points back to our aforementioned hypocrisy of wanting to murder the people we watch murder. That was neat.

All of this is making me think more about the premise of a game my friends and I plan on making in the eventual future, where the intended morality as presented by the plot is that "Humans keep making their own problems and blaming each other for it. This leads to a cycle of, in the worst of cases, unbridled murder. So for better or worse, something needs to die; either the people doing the stabby-stabby, or the awful mentalities and situations that drive them to do so, if that's even a viable option in a given scenario." The crux of the gameplay is that your extraterrestrial (because alternate universes are neat, don'cha'know) supervisor is firmly in the "kill the killers" camp, and you, as a squad of highly trained human agents, have to follow his instructions, or make the more difficult, conscious effort to try and reform the less reprehensible murderers, and only off the ones that truly can't and won't be "saved". Is it worth letting a few more innocent victims die in the pursuit of changing people's minds? When does slashing the slashers become a bad thing? No matter what universe or country you're fighting in, you're still dealing with humans living human lives how they see fit. And that realization can make your actions feel like they have just that much more weight to them.

That sounds like a great game, but also very difficult to design, I would love to see how it develops.

Apple Talk / Re: Silver-Screen Scumbags: Damnation Doesn't Deter
« on: April 18, 2019, 09:43:45 pm »
I remember watching Dexter and thinking "Oh, no! He's going to get caught!" then thinking "Wait why am I rooting for him? Somebody really needs to stop this psychopath."

why?  He was very careful to only kill bad people. 

Literate Chaotic / Re: Cancel Culture
« on: April 12, 2019, 09:58:31 am »
Aliester Crowley is another who was a horrible person, and whose art is better for it.  He fucked cats (and lots more, that's just the one that strikes me as worst), but he also explored, and explained, the mystical traditions of Europe in a way that gets at the heart of a lot that no other author does. 

I actually think he's just an emotional masochist who likes the kind of abuse Howl dishes out.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Cancel Culture
« on: April 11, 2019, 11:40:28 pm »
Unfortunately I don't know him any longer.  I did ask him back when we hung out but he was kind of evasive about it all.  His wife is Hispanic, so the romantic part of me likes to imagine it was love, but I have no evidence.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Cancel Culture
« on: April 11, 2019, 10:01:02 pm »
As far as pedos go there used to be a member here who felt that anyone accused of pedophilia should be destroyed.  Hopefully even the folks who didn't see the arguements about that can see the problem with her position.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Cancel Culture
« on: April 11, 2019, 09:57:04 pm »

Some behavior is not fucking acceptable. I don’t give a fuck if they become pariahs. They asked for that the second they covered themselves in dogshit and started yelling slurs. I don’t care if they /can/ be saved, why would you fucking /want/ to?

Because allies are valuable.  I had a friend who used to be a nazi, back before there were nazis under every rock.  Now I didn't save him, I don't really know who did, but I was grateful for him in my life.  He understood white supremacists in a way that I never could and that sort of information can be incredibly valuable when trying to combat them.  The simplest, and most obvious example is that he taught me their codes, so I know HH and 88 mean nazi.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Cancel Culture
« on: April 11, 2019, 09:31:44 pm »
All sexual interaction without consent can cause /serious fucking damage/. All of it. It might look “minor” to you but I’m extremely fucked up over some of that “minor” shit.

Keep digging that fucking hole, sparky. I’ll gladly bury you when you’ve gotten it fucking deep enough.

Yes, but does that mean all sexual interaction without consent should result in the castration of the perpetrator?

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:51:37 am »
My daughter and her crew at vocational-school tried playing a session of Human Occupied Landfill last month. Yeah, that game never lasts more than 1 session. They went back to their weird oD&D+3.5+4+Pathfinder2.0 thing they play between other games...

If you want a game that takes this kind of this 'seriously/humorously' (instead of juvinile-humorously), I recommend Tales from the Floating Vagabond.

Also, I seemed to have designed something that can create character sheets for any system as part of another javascript-wiki I use. It helps if you know HTML a bit, and 'common wiki-syntax', to get started, so I'm trying to design a more user-friendly package. But it does need testing if anyone is curious.

I'd like to be involved,  I know HTML

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:50:20 am »
"die easily"

GURPs says hi.

I GM GURPS and have yet to have a PC die that didn't intend to.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: April 05, 2019, 01:49:08 am »
The bullshit RPG forum is still mostly theory wanking, indie/storygame discussions, and one person telling folks why they don't like the OSR or DnD.  :lulz:

Could you post a link?  I could use some RPG discussion.

Apple Talk / Re: Things I expect on a date.
« on: April 04, 2019, 12:36:55 am »
I'm sure it works both ways if it works any, but as someone with a male body you may have a harder time turning a gay man straight than vice versa.

RPG Ghetto / Re: Appocalachia
« on: March 30, 2019, 09:33:39 am »
The first scene will be taking place in Nugent Bottom, in a bar properly known as Nugent Bottom bar and grill, but colloquially known as Teddy's Asshole.  It's a small locale directly across the Tuscarawas river from Newcomer's Town Ohio.  Dominique and the Amish folks have just arrived in town, and this looked like the most easily available place to get an idea of where anything they might be interested in is.

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