They fucking love it. They are all over that shit. It's the new banjo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWoPyDLY2Do
you're ruining it for them, because now everyone's going to know about it and then they wont like it anymore.
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on September 18, 2010, 10:01:06 PM
you're ruining it for them, because now everyone's going to know about it and then they wont like it anymore.
And that is bad why?
They love hurdy-gurdies, and moustaches!
I am starting to think that hipsters are a Discordian conspiracy.
Also, that video makes me laugh so hard for some reason. Also,
(http://www.hurdygurdy.farmcom.net/parts2.jpg)
I think some steam punks dig those too.
I think we should spread the news that the new cool hipster drink is Arsenic. They'd probably jump on that bandwagon too. And that would pretty much make my life.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 18, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
I think we should spread the news that the new cool hipster drink is Arsenic. They'd probably jump on that bandwagon too. And that would pretty much make my life.
No they wouldnt. They would immediately declare arsenic to be "too mainstream".
So we write up some articles about how nobody drinks Arsinic.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 18, 2010, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 18, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
I think we should spread the news that the new cool hipster drink is Arsenic. They'd probably jump on that bandwagon too. And that would pretty much make my life.
No they wouldn't. They would immediately declare arsenic to be "too mainstream".
He should spread the rumor about oxygen, instead.
Quote from: Vartox on September 18, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 18, 2010, 10:48:44 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 18, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
I think we should spread the news that the new cool hipster drink is Arsenic. They'd probably jump on that bandwagon too. And that would pretty much make my life.
No they wouldn't. They would immediately declare arsenic to be "too mainstream".
He should spread the rumor about oxygen, instead.
But then someone just points out how people in the 50s used oxygen and suddenly its "retro".
You just cant win with hipsters, unless your winning ironically.
So....
i wondered, "just what the fuck is a hipster" and ggogled it.
urban dictionary was the first result and gave a lengthy definition.
aaaaaand...
this place kinda fits the bill....
:?
Quote from: Iptuous on September 18, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
So....
i wondered, "just what the fuck is a hipster" and ggogled it.
urban dictionary was the first result and gave a lengthy definition.
aaaaaand...
this place kinda fits the bill....
:?
Is that ironic?
Quote from: Iptuous on September 18, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
So....
i wondered, "just what the fuck is a hipster" and ggogled it.
urban dictionary was the first result and gave a lengthy definition.
aaaaaand...
this place kinda fits the bill....
:?
Quote from: urban dictionaryHipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.
Hipsters shun mainstream societal conventions that apply to dating preferences and traditional "rules" of physical attraction. It is part of the hipster central dogma not to be influenced by mainsream advertising and media, which tends to only promote ethnocentric ideals of beauty. The concepts of androgyny and feminism have influenced hipster culture, where hipster men are often as thin as the women they date. The muscular and athletic all-American male ideal is not seen as attractive by confident and culturally-empowered hipster women who instead view them as symbols of male oppression, sexism, and misogyny. Likewise, culturally-vapid sorority-type girls with fake blond hair, overly tanned skin, and "Britney Spears tube-tops" are not seen as attractive by cultured hipster males who instead see them as symbols of female insecurity, low self-esteem, and lack of cultural intelligence and independent thinking. Hipsters are also very racially open-minded, and the greatest number of interracial couples in any urban environment are typically found within the hipster subculture.
Although hipsters are technically conformists within their own subculture, in comparison to the much larger mainstream mass, they are pioneers and leaders of the latest cultural trends and ideals. For example, the surge of jeans made to look old and worn (i.e. "distressed"), that have become prevalent at stores such as The Gap, American Eagle, Abercrombie and Fitch, and Hollister, were originally paraded by hipsters who shopped in thrift stores years before such clothing items were mass produced and sold to the mainstream consumer. The true irony here is that many of the detractors of hipster culture are in fact unknowingly following a path that hipsters have carved out years before them. This phenomena also applies to music as well, as many bands have become successful and known to mainstream audiences only because hipsters first found and listened to them as early-adopters of new culture. Once certain concepts of fashion and music have reached mainstream audiences, hipsters move on to something new and improved.
Because of the rise of various online photo-blog and social networking sites, insights into urban hipster culture is reaching sheltered suburban audiences at an exponential rate. Cultural "norms" have been deconstructed by hipster culture as a whole. Hipsterism is often dismissed as just an image thing by some, but the culture as a whole is effecting changes in society, leading to feelings of insecurity and resentment in people who are no longer a part of the cultural ruling class. For example, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from culturally-clueless suburban frat boy types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can.
A conversation outside a hipster bar in downtown NYC:
Frat Boy #1: Dude, are you having any luck picking up chicks in there?
Frat Boy #2: Man...I haven't experienced anything like this before. These chicks are totally rejecting me and going for all these hipster guys in tight pants and shaggy hair instead.
Frat Boy #1: Maybe we should head back up to that bar in Murry Hill where you hooked up with that drunk b*tch from Alpha Sigma Phi last week?
Frat Boy #2: Yeah...I don't think we have what it takes to compete with these guys in here. These hipster chicks won't even give us the time of the day!
Quote from: Iptuous on September 18, 2010, 11:03:29 PM
So....
i wondered, "just what the fuck is a hipster" and ggogled it.
urban dictionary was the first result and gave a lengthy definition.
aaaaaand...
this place kinda fits the bill....
:?
A hipster is someone who is too "cool" to act "cool". Infact they are so "cool" that they can afford to intentionally act/dress "uncool".
Essentially someone literally
obsessed with projecting the image that they
dont care about their image.
I totally care about the image i project.
i really, really want to make sure that people think i'm cool and that they like me.
i'm obsessed with not offending people.
whew...
it's good to know that i'm not one of these accursed hipsters (even though i think hurdy gurdys are pretty slick).
unless, of course, someone present is a self described hipster. in which case, there's nothing wrong with it...
All I know is now I want to see several hurdy-gurdy hooked up a machine that automatically plays them using an overly elaborate steam powered engine.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 18, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
All I know is now I want to see several hurdy-gurdy hooked up a machine that automatically plays them using an overly elaborate steam powered engine.
Wouldnt the heat and humidty from the steam cause them to go out of tune quicker?
\
:jabroni:
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 18, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
All I know is now I want to see several hurdy-gurdy hooked up a machine that automatically plays them using an overly elaborate steam powered engine.
Wouldnt the heat and humidty from the steam cause them to go out of tune quicker?
\
:jabroni:
Excellent point...also, damn you.
Nevertheless, that would still be pretty cool.
I think hipsters are silly, but they keep open a few places I really like (my favorite tea house, for example, is hipster central but they keep it going), so I've decided I don't mind them.
But, we also keep ours cowed. Any of that mocking shit they're famous for immediately gets turned around on them and squared, so mebbe that's why ours are ok.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 12:17:27 AM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 12:16:26 AM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 18, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
All I know is now I want to see several hurdy-gurdy hooked up a machine that automatically plays them using an overly elaborate steam powered engine.
Wouldnt the heat and humidty from the steam cause them to go out of tune quicker?
\
:jabroni:
Excellent point...also, damn you.
Your dreams need not be forfeit good chap. A clockwork device of similar design could achieve the same effect while achieving a similar aesthetic("steampunk") as well.
\
:judge:
In the future I am going to build a hurdy-gurdy.
Not because I'm a hipster,
Because I'm awesome.
Quote from: Roaring Biscuit! on September 19, 2010, 01:00:32 AM
In the future I am going to build a hurdy-gurdy.
Not because I'm a hipster,
Because I'm awesome.
Being awesome is
SO mainstream now.
I DID NOT
watch the whole video, but I've seen a few folks play the hurdy gurdy and it makes some pretty awesome sounds. I doubt they'll get nearly as popular as mustaches because they're mostly custom built and pretty damn spendy. like, thousands of PBR's spendy.
WHAT
tipped you off to the hipsters bent on hurdy gurdy idea?
CUDGEL-
i love that idea!! tune change/ adjustment could just be part of the process. Imagine "take me out to the ballgame" on 23 steampowered hurdy gurdies!!
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
Hipsters think hipsters are cool.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
Hipsters think hipsters are cool.
There is probably secret hipster lusting going on behind your back.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:29:16 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:15:32 AM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
Hipsters think hipsters are cool.
There is probably secret hipster lusting going on behind your back.
In that case, I should get some thick-framed glasses and a turtleneck. If there's somebody lusting after me, I'd hate for them to keep it a secret.
Quote from: Nigel on September 18, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
They fucking love it. They are all over that shit. It's the new banjo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWoPyDLY2Do
I liked the hurdy-gurdy before it was cool.
I used to worry that I was a hipster. Then I realized that I hate cheap beer, dress like someone who has a job and a home, and have a visceral dislike for "authentic" things like indie music and mid century home furnishings. And I prefer wireframes.
you're definitely not a hipster, as evidenced by the fact that I didn't kick your ass and steal your lunch money when we hung out.
That settles that, then. :lol:
Did I ever mention you're about the most worrisome person I've ever met?
You know what else hipsters do?
They roll their eyes when you card them, even though they may only be 21 or 22. They order Strongbow Cider, not even MAGNERS on draft, and nurse it for an hour. Then they get mad at you when you try to do your job and angrily cash out so you won't bother them anymore, because they think that works.
If you're lucky, they'll tip exactly 15%, I mean, why tip? That's CONFORMING.
Also, I plan to one up the hipsters. Since the 1940s-50s are so back in vogue and cool, as long as you're a hipster, I'm going to start dressing like it's the 20s and 30s again. Even though that would be considered retro to them, or maybe even mainstream because I'm not a hipster and I'm dressing like that and still listening to mainstream big label music or something......
I'm just fucking confusing myself. Fuck hipsters.
Coyote says he created hipsters as a prank. He apologizes. He is very much ashamed of his prank.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 08:04:57 AM
Coyote says he created hipsters as a prank. He apologizes. He is very much ashamed of his prank.
Have you ever stared deep into the eyes of a hipster? Its a life changing experience.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 02:22:07 PM
Have you ever stared deep into the eyes of a hipster? Its a life changing experience.
I'll give it a shot next time i see one, but i imagine it would be about as easy as getting my 3 year old son to look me in the eyes when he's in trouble. like a strong magnetic repulsion.
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
BOOM
Spot on!
Almost nobody who other people see as a hipster thinks they are a hipster. They just "wear what they like" and "hang out in hipster central, but it's OK because they keep it going".
Quote from: Kai on September 19, 2010, 04:00:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 18, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
They fucking love it. They are all over that shit. It's the new banjo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWoPyDLY2Do
I liked the hurdy-gurdy before it was cool.
:potd:
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
I just found that band and THEY FUCKING ROCK!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijKLHCQw5o&feature=fvw
HURDY-GURDY RULES!!!
(http://www.musicaloud.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Hurdy-Gurdy.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msRy4vcSX4k&feature=channel
This one also features some shots of a very sexy mandola.
WANT!
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 06:36:44 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 02:10:03 AM
Quote from: vexati0n on September 19, 2010, 02:03:45 AM
Internal dialogue in my head:
ME1: This thread makes me wonder, am I a hipster?
ME2: Uhh... you wear jackboots with knee-high athletic socks and pinstripe slacks cut off at the knees. And nobody thinks you're cool.
ME1: Oh yeah. SAVED!
Hipster in denial. No one thinks hipsters are cool. Hipsters wear random clothes that make no sense.
BOOM
Spot on!
Almost nobody who other people see as a hipster thinks they are a hipster. They just "wear what they like" and "hang out in hipster central, but it's OK because they keep it going".
:( That's where all the night life is! Also, I only stop there for tea. I rarely stay after I get it. ETA: "there" being the tea house.
One time, I saw a guy with mutton chops and buddy holly glasses riding a bicycle in cowboy boots.
Me: :(
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
:fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap:
Speaking of hipsters, one of the bars by my house now has PBR on tap.
If other people see you as a hipster, you are one. No hipster EVER self-identifies as a hipster!
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 19, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
Speaking of hipsters, one of the bars by my house now has PBR on tap.
I didn't even know it CAME that way! The only benefit to PBR is that it's cheap. If it's on tap it better be like $.75/pint.
The Most Frustrating Cultural Identity
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 19, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
Speaking of hipsters, one of the bars by my house now has PBR on tap.
I didn't even know it CAME that way! The only benefit to PBR is that it's cheap. If it's on tap it better be like $.75/pint.
$3.75 at the hipster joint called The Skinny I used to go to in Portland. The beer sucked by the music was pretty good.
That's criminal.
Yeah, that place shut down a while ago. But it wasn't for lack of local hipsters crowding the place. Some issues with the lease I think. It was a great place. Had that perfect rock and roll feel to it that I know LMNO would appreciate. It was like a punk club and an indie club and a fine arts house all smooshed into one little space. Saw some really good rock and roll shows there.
House of Blues in Boston charges $6 for a 16oz PBR. It's criminal. For $.50 more you can get Harpoon.
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
If other people see you as a hipster, you are one. No hipster EVER self-identifies as a hipster!
I believe you might be the only one who has ever suggested that, lol.
This Thread = Filthy Hipsters discussing the prices of disgusting Hipster drinks.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
This Thread = Filthy Hipsters discussing the prices of disgusting Hipster drinks.
This thread makes me want to drink and dress in horribly anachronistic psuedo-victorian clothes.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
This Thread = Filthy Hipsters discussing the prices of disgusting Hipster drinks.
This thread makes me want to drink
Dude. Consuming liquids is SOOOOO mainstream.
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 11:18:34 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 19, 2010, 11:07:12 PM
Quote from: Lord Glittersnatch on September 19, 2010, 10:17:45 PM
This Thread = Filthy Hipsters discussing the prices of disgusting Hipster drinks.
This thread makes me want to drink
Dude. Consuming liquids is SOOOOO mainstream.
Dude. Breathing is soooooooo mainstream.
Quote from: Sigmatic on September 19, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
One time, I saw a guy with mutton chops and buddy holly glasses riding a bicycle in cowboy boots.
Me: :(
I saw I guy riding a tall bike down Belmont wearing black-framed glasses and a hooded wizard cape. I laughed so hard that I almost got run over.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.
Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.
Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 09:40:58 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 19, 2010, 08:02:29 PM
Speaking of hipsters, one of the bars by my house now has PBR on tap.
I didn't even know it CAME that way! The only benefit to PBR is that it's cheap. If it's on tap it better be like $.75/pint.
Except when the bartenders catch on and start charging close to $4 for PBR because it's suddenly popular and trendy.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 20, 2010, 12:32:17 AM
Quote from: Sigmatic on September 19, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
One time, I saw a guy with mutton chops and buddy holly glasses riding a bicycle in cowboy boots.
Me: :(
I saw I guy riding a tall bike down Belmont wearing black-framed glasses and a hooded wizard cape. I laughed so hard that I almost got run over.
Due to this post, I think that whenever I have the misfortune of spending too much time in Allston I will intentionally laugh and point at the hipsters going "You're a fucking hipster! Stop conforming!"
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
THOSE TWO GIRLS
ought to start their own band.
Quote from: Hover Cat on September 19, 2010, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
If other people see you as a hipster, you are one. No hipster EVER self-identifies as a hipster!
I believe you might be the only one who has ever suggested that, lol.
Oh, by no means. It was a new concept to me until a few weeks ago. But since it was brought to my attention, I've observed that it's true.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.
Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.
Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead
Um.
Pretty much EVERYONE who was a metalhead after 1990 is a hipster.
I assume that you're just trying to get peoples' goats, because THAT statement is patently ridiculous.
Or, you may just not know any real metalheads.
I'm a person, fuck all the rest of you.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 20, 2010, 04:37:36 AM
I assume that you're just trying to get peoples' goats, because THAT statement is just patently ridiculous. You may just not know any real metalheads.
"Real metalheads" who discovered metal after 1990??? That's like being a "real punk" who discovered punk rock after 1990.
Pretty much all hipsters do is A. deny being hipsters, and B. make fun of people they think are hipsters. That, and play the "realer than you" game.
And love hurdy-gurdies.
(http://www.apknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Hurdy-Gurdy.jpg)
I think I'm going to introduce my violin-playing sister to these. I want her to learn it
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:31:49 AM
Quote from: Hover Cat on September 19, 2010, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 19, 2010, 09:40:01 PM
If other people see you as a hipster, you are one. No hipster EVER self-identifies as a hipster!
I believe you might be the only one who has ever suggested that, lol.
Oh, by no means. It was a new concept to me until a few weeks ago. But since it was brought to my attention, I've observed that it's true.
Oh, ok, lol. I'm definitely inclined to agree with you on them never self-identifying as such.
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:36:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.
Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.
Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead
Um.
Pretty much EVERYONE who was a metalhead after 1990 is a hipster.
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because
I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:42:25 AM
(http://www.apknews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Hurdy-Gurdy.jpg)
ATTN: NURSE ENABLER!!
this is a perfect example of posting style which is STRICKTLY off-limits to n00bs!!
As not only a metalhead but a mediocre-to-bearable creator of metal, I think I'm qualified when I say that most metalheads are in fact hipsters, but only in the same way that most rappers are hipsters and most (okay, all) radio-pop fans are hipsters. That is, if you like a kind of music because you think you're supposed to, or because you don't know any better, or because all your friends do, or because you think it reinforces whatever self-image you're trying to project, then you are a hipster, and therefore disqualified from actually being counted as a true fan.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 04:36:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.
Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.
Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead
Um.
Pretty much EVERYONE who was a metalhead after 1990 is a hipster.
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
None of those are metal bands.
I think there is some confusion here between "ironically liking butt-rock" and "being willing to light a hobo on fire for tickets to see Converge".
anyway, I got into metal in '89 (Metallica's And Justice For All), and I'm 33. So by Nigel's logic, anyone under the age of 30 who likes metal is a hipster (or a REALLY early bloomer). Out in rural America, where "hip" is a body part and kids drink PBR because it's cheap, there are plenty of metalheads who don't care about irony, intentionally anti-cool affectations, or studded leather belts.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 20, 2010, 04:55:05 AM
As not only a metalhead but a mediocre-to-bearable creator of metal, I think I'm qualified when I say that most metalheads are in fact hipsters, but only in the same way that most rappers are hipsters and most (okay, all) radio-pop fans are hipsters. That is, if you like a kind of music because you think you're supposed to, or because you don't know any better, or because all your friends do, or because you think it reinforces whatever self-image you're trying to project, then you are a hipster, and therefore disqualified from actually being counted as a true fan.
most of the metal fans I know like metal because, umm, they like metal. Maybe it's a generational thing, but most of the metalheads I know have liked metal for years in spite of the fact that (apparently until very recently) it detracted from their social capital. If there are a bunch of kids running around liking metal because they think it makes them cool, well, at least they're supporting good bands, so I say more power to them. Beats the hell out of hipsters who support pretentious artsy-fartsy self-referential indie schlock.
Yeah, I'm looking at YOU, Bats For Lashes fans.
GREAT POINTS,
ech! i did think that i went obviously out of my way to list bands which are by only the furthest stretch of the imagination, metal. or even music. but i think we can rest confidently on the fact that NIGEL, goddess that she is, knows absolutely nothing about metal music.
YES
at the torch, with earthbound matter, she will shame your ass
HOWEVER
the closest her itunes comes to metal music is a duo of emo guys who cover the 'misfits' as if it were 'erasure'. it kinda rules.
I don't understand how anyone could consider their music collection complete and come only that close to metal. I mean... no Slayer? No Megadeth? No Borknagar? It's no wonder these people all burn out by age 35.
Quote from: vexati0n on September 20, 2010, 05:21:33 AM
I don't understand how anyone could consider their music collection complete and come only that close to metal. I mean... no Slayer? No Megadeth? No Borknagar? It's no wonder these people all burn out by age 35.
WELL
music taste is curious. how much honky tonk do you have? Classical? Austrian brick shuffle &/ or yodel? for many music listeners the world begins and ends with what they themselves are into.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 20, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Self contradictory. Hipsters assimilate Metal culture for their own ironic and retro purposes.
Metalheads have a sense of trveness, and an unassuageable instinct to destroy the hipster for said cultural assimilation.
Behold the use of Judas Priest iconography for Weezer. It is blasphemy of the worst type. The infidels and heretics must be purged.
Doktor Blight,
An un-ironic Metalhead
Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Actually, thats pretty cool. Is all of their music like that?
Quote from: Kai on September 20, 2010, 12:46:05 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on September 19, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
Fuck you I love the hurdy-gurdy. Hurdy-gurdies are fucking metal:
evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DYKsQqQgSk
RWHN,
Heavy Metal Hipster
Actually, thats pretty cool. Is all of their music like that?
More or less. That is from their first album Spirit. If you like that song I think you'll like the whole album. It's a good blend of traditional Celtic music and melodic death metal. They also incorporate some Gaulish lyrics into their music which usually come from archaeological artifacts.
They also did an all-acoustic album called Evocation I which is 100% sung in Gaulish and most of the vocals are provided by the female hurdy-gurdyist, Anna Murphy.
this might make the "hipster" phenomenon make a bit more sense
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2009/12/the-evolution-of-the-hipster-2000-2009.html
(http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hipster1.jpg)
if we go back further than 2000, I'm sure we can see an unbroken line between "goth" culture and the super ironic meta-nerd of 2009.
Go back to 91 or 92 and I suppose we'd have the grunge movement. In fact, 2006 kinda looks like grunge redux.
I have had that 3 wolf/moon t-shirt (in grey, though) for about 20 years. WTF. I wear it to sleep in. My aunt got it for me from Texas. So weird.
It's oddly pleasing to look upon a decade of american culture and realize what garbage it is.
America must be destroyed. :)
I had this thought of a giant hurdy-gurdy, with hipsters chained to either a treadmill or a capstan and being forced to eternally walk to power a cathedral sized hurdy-gurdy.
Quote from: Sigmatic on September 20, 2010, 05:42:23 PM
It's oddly pleasing to look upon a decade of american "culture" and realize what garbage it is.
America must be destroyed. :)
Fixed.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Here's a question for you; in what way am
I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Here's a question for you; in what way am I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
The horrible beating you would deliver.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 05:16:02 AM
GREAT POINTS,
ech! i did think that i went obviously out of my way to list bands which are by only the furthest stretch of the imagination, metal. or even music. but i think we can rest confidently on the fact that NIGEL, goddess that she is, knows absolutely nothing about metal music.
YES
at the torch, with earthbound matter, she will shame your ass
HOWEVER
the closest her itunes comes to metal music is a duo of emo guys who cover the 'misfits' as if it were 'erasure'. it kinda rules.
This is not technically true, but it's close enough to the truth.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Here's a question for you; in what way am I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
The horrible beating you would deliver.
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
90% of the people here are indistinguishable from "hipsters" from an outside perspective. Since "Hipsters" are almost ALWAYS defined by an outside perspective, that makes the majority of us "hipsters".
When I was first introduced to this idea about two months ago, it pissed me the fuck off. Why? Because I'm not a fucking hipster... right? I mean... I'm not... really... oh wait. Who defines "hipster"? Who decides who is a hipster? Hipsters don't consider themselves hipsters. Hipsters HATE hipsters and would argue bitterly against being labeled a hipster. So... who decides who is a hipster? Who even knows what a hipster is? Lots of people don't know what a hipster is, and couldn't point out a hipster in a crowd. They don't hate hipsters. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those people are definitely NOT hipsters.
Also, hurdy-gurdies are fucking awesome. I don't care WHY likes them; they're just fucking rad.
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
I don't buy it. I define "hipster" as "someone who dresses like Buddy Holly crossed with Bazooka Joe, because all of their friends do, and who insists on using the word "ironic" incorrectly while they guzzle shitty beer."
This fills me with hate. I don't particularly care if anyone else hates them, nor do I think there is any redeeming qualities to be found...And neither would you, had you been in Providence with us, that horrible night. I still have the hideous sound of ukeleles running up and down my nerves, and a constant gag reflex from just the memory of the incredible pretentiousness that I was forced to suffer through, like the chick with the Alanys Morrisette voice who felt she could improve on Tom Petty. For real, it made me long for the John Meyer version, and I think he should be fired from a cannon, FFS.
If I had my way, every one of those bike-riding bastards would be thrown in the river with a sodium poi tied around their neck, while the band played old Bob Seger tunes, just for that Godawful night...and the wicked case of PTSD that it saddled me with. There really is no excuse for that sort of thing. This is fucking America, not Montreal.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
I don't buy it. I define "hipster" as "someone who dresses like Buddy Holly crossed with Bazooka Joe, because all of their friends do, and who insists on using the word "ironic" incorrectly while they guzzle shitty beer."
This fills me with hate. I don't particularly care if anyone else hates them, nor do I think there is any redeeming qualities to be found...And neither would you, had you been in Providence with us, that horrible night. I still have the hideous sound of ukeleles running up and down my nerves, and a constant gag reflex from just the memory of the incredible pretentiousness that I was forced to suffer through, like the chick with the Alanys Morrisette voice who felt she could improve on Tom Petty. For real, it made me long for the John Meyer version, and I think he should be fired from a cannon, FFS.
If I had my way, every one of those bike-riding bastards would be thrown in the river with a sodium poi tied around their neck, while the band played old Bob Seger tunes, just for that Godawful night...and the wicked case of PTSD that it saddled me with. There really is no excuse for that sort of thing. This is fucking America, not Montreal.
:lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
I don't buy it. I define "hipster" as "someone who dresses like Buddy Holly crossed with Bazooka Joe, because all of their friends do, and who insists on using the word "ironic" incorrectly while they guzzle shitty beer."
This fills me with hate. I don't particularly care if anyone else hates them, nor do I think there is any redeeming qualities to be found...And neither would you, had you been in Providence with us, that horrible night. I still have the hideous sound of ukeleles running up and down my nerves, and a constant gag reflex from just the memory of the incredible pretentiousness that I was forced to suffer through, like the chick with the Alanys Morrisette voice who felt she could improve on Tom Petty. For real, it made me long for the John Meyer version, and I think he should be fired from a cannon, FFS.
If I had my way, every one of those bike-riding bastards would be thrown in the river with a sodium poi tied around their neck, while the band played old Bob Seger tunes, just for that Godawful night...and the wicked case of PTSD that it saddled me with. There really is no excuse for that sort of thing. This is fucking America, not Montreal.
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1
This is for the Doktor.
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 09:02:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
I don't buy it. I define "hipster" as "someone who dresses like Buddy Holly crossed with Bazooka Joe, because all of their friends do, and who insists on using the word "ironic" incorrectly while they guzzle shitty beer."
This fills me with hate. I don't particularly care if anyone else hates them, nor do I think there is any redeeming qualities to be found...And neither would you, had you been in Providence with us, that horrible night. I still have the hideous sound of ukeleles running up and down my nerves, and a constant gag reflex from just the memory of the incredible pretentiousness that I was forced to suffer through, like the chick with the Alanys Morrisette voice who felt she could improve on Tom Petty. For real, it made me long for the John Meyer version, and I think he should be fired from a cannon, FFS.
If I had my way, every one of those bike-riding bastards would be thrown in the river with a sodium poi tied around their neck, while the band played old Bob Seger tunes, just for that Godawful night...and the wicked case of PTSD that it saddled me with. There really is no excuse for that sort of thing. This is fucking America, not Montreal.
:lulz:
AND THAT BEING SAID, I AM OFF TO THE SMOKING SHACK, SHOULD ANYONE NEED TO FIND ME FOR MORE LITTLE PILES OF STEAMING WISDOM.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1
This is for the Doktor.
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about Hipsters and my hatred for them, not jacking off in front of the family dog.
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
Oh, yeah? Tell Suu and Richter to take you to "that bar" on open mic night.
I dare you.
But then again, what do I know?
I can just come here and have people tell me what I'm really thinking. :lulz:
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
YES
(http://www.marriedtothesea.com/091610/hipsterest-bike.gif)
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1
This is for the Doktor.
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about Hipsters and my hatred for them, not jacking off in front of the family dog.
http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1195
In more related news, I got one of my friends to tell me to go fuck myself after I posted the hurdy-gurdy video with the comment "Starts off slow but SO WORTH IT to watch to the end!" :lulz:
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1
This is for the Doktor.
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about Hipsters and my hatred for them, not jacking off in front of the family dog.
http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1195
Still fucked.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:12:41 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 09:04:18 PM
http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1
This is for the Doktor.
What does that have to do with anything? We're talking about Hipsters and my hatred for them, not jacking off in front of the family dog.
http://questionablecontent.net./view.php?comic=1195
That appeared to be the unfunniest comic I have ever seen. I am submitting it to unfunnies.com.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Here's a question for you; in what way am I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
The horrible beating you would deliver.
HA! THIS!
couldn't have put it better.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 11:08:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 20, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 20, 2010, 04:50:09 AM
OH,
you mean like YOU - who just got into STRYPER, WINGER & KYX in the last few years because I turned you onto them?!
ALSO;
-don't mess with the metalheads cuz they're like fucking librarians of guitar and you CANNOT WIN!!
Here's a question for you; in what way am I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
The horrible beating you would deliver.
HA! THIS!
couldn't have put it better.
I've only met her once (well, twice, but the first day she was zombified), but I could tell she'd fucking some shit royally.
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PM
Except that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
90% of the people here are indistinguishable from "hipsters" from an outside perspective. Since "Hipsters" are almost ALWAYS defined by an outside perspective, that makes the majority of us "hipsters".
When I was first introduced to this idea about two months ago, it pissed me the fuck off. Why? Because I'm not a fucking hipster... right? I mean... I'm not... really... oh wait. Who defines "hipster"? Who decides who is a hipster? Hipsters don't consider themselves hipsters. Hipsters HATE hipsters and would argue bitterly against being labeled a hipster. So... who decides who is a hipster? Who even knows what a hipster is? Lots of people don't know what a hipster is, and couldn't point out a hipster in a crowd. They don't hate hipsters. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those people are definitely NOT hipsters.
Also, hurdy-gurdies are fucking awesome. I don't care WHY likes them; they're just fucking rad.
You don't follow the trends. Yeah you fit some of the hipster criteria, but you pretty much always fit that criteria, the hipsters are imitating you not the other way around.
In further news on the SLC hipster infestation, I saw two fixed gear bikes while I was out walking. :argh!:
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
ironic, isn't it?
:|
Quote from: Iptuous on September 20, 2010, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
ironic, isn't it?
:|
I will stab you. Fucking 'irony'
I still don't understand how shit is 'ironic' to hipsters.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
It's trendy, its the same reason people pay 4$ for a pint of PBR in a bar that has 3.75 imports.
http://www.yelp.com/topic/seattle-whats-with-hipsters-and-fixed-gear-bikes
I think I have to kill hipsters now.
Quote from: Ian "vuvuzela sapien" M.Pragmatically speaking, there are fewer moving parts to maintain, so they're easier and cheaper to repair. They can also be retooled more easily with alternative gearing if you know you're going to be riding in an especially hilly area on a particular day, or simply whether you change your mind about what you want as your "around town" gearing (that, here, should work for both hills and flats).
They provide a much more "intimate" feel of the road: the transmission on a more traditional, multi-geared bike "muffles" the experience. As mentioned, they encourage excellent cadence. If you are so inclined, you can perform a track stand on them (staying upright on the bike without removing one's feet from the pedals by balancing using the handlebars, and minute back and forth adjustments on the crank) at traffic lights and thus remain in ready position the whole while--and simultaneously refine balance skills.
As mentioned earlier, they promote excellent cadence. Not only downhill, but over obstacles and bumps you must continue to pedal regularly, even if you need to unload the saddle in order to miss out on the brunt of a rough patch in the road.
Because of the nature of the direct drive, they are exceptionally quiet.
Bike guru Sheldon Brown has a nice article on his site: http://sheldonbrown.co...
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:39:11 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on September 20, 2010, 11:32:40 PM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
ironic, isn't it?
:|
I will stab you. Fucking 'irony'
I still don't understand how shit is 'ironic' to hipsters.
"This obsession with "street-cred" reaches its apex of absurdity as hipsters have recently and wholeheartedly adopted the fixed-gear bike as the only acceptable form of transportation – only to have brakes installed on a piece of machinery that is defined by its lack thereof."
www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
I think they have brakes in that if you stop pedaling the rear wheel will stop turning.
But now I think I should get a 24 speed mountain bike put street tires on it and use it cruise around post.
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Fixed gear bikes are for training for bike races not riding around town, ZOMG TEH IRONY!
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Fixed gear bikes are for training for bike races not riding around town, ZOMG TEH IRONY!
:|
I hate hipsters.
have they already moved through a penny-farthing trend, or is there a ripe market there for a quick footed entrepreneur?
If you mean the bikes with the big assed wheel on the back, yes I believe so.
Isn't the brakes when you pedal backwards?
Quote from: Pēleus on September 21, 2010, 12:07:44 AM
Isn't the brakes when you pedal backwards?
That's a coaster brake and no, fixed gear bikes do not have them.
Net,
Doctor of Bicycology
ETA: If you're pedaling backwards on a fixed gear the bike is moving backwards. The brake is your legs, which generally means gradually slowing the pedals down.
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
I still AM one of those "fucking kids" (mentally if not chronologically) and none of the other cutural archetypes you mention fill me with rage.
Hell, even emos just fill me with a sense of pity.
Hell, even hippies (HIPPIES FFS!!) are more respectable since they actually at least THINK they sort of have a reason for being who and what they are.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
I still AM one of those "fucking kids" (mentally if not chronologically) and none of the other cutural archetypes you mention fill me with rage.
Hell, even emos just fill me with a sense of pity.
Hell, even hippies (HIPPIES FFS!!) are more respectable since they actually at least THINK they sort of have a reason for being who and what they are.
Have you even SEEN any hippies under 30 who aren't just a type of hipster?
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
I still AM one of those "fucking kids" (mentally if not chronologically) and none of the other cutural archetypes you mention fill me with rage.
Hell, even emos just fill me with a sense of pity.
Hell, even hippies (HIPPIES FFS!!) are more respectable since they actually at least THINK they sort of have a reason for being who and what they are.
Have you even SEEN any hippies under 30 who aren't just a type of hipster?
I haven't seen any hippies OVER 30 that aren't some sort of hipster.
Of course, we have a particularly vile breed of hippie, here.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
I still AM one of those "fucking kids" (mentally if not chronologically) and none of the other cutural archetypes you mention fill me with rage.
Hell, even emos just fill me with a sense of pity.
Hell, even hippies (HIPPIES FFS!!) are more respectable since they actually at least THINK they sort of have a reason for being who and what they are.
Have you even SEEN any hippies under 30 who aren't just a type of hipster?
actually yes. Maine is full of them. They're endearingly earnest, if a bit stinky.
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 12:58:28 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 12:39:15 AM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 09:08:24 PM
I don't think that "hipsters" have a unique character that makes them particularly hateworthy. I think any youth subculture causes people outside of it to go "FUCKING KIDS THESE DAYS"
This entire thread could have been about flappers, greasers, early rockers, punks, emos, grunge kids, hippies, or metalheads and it wouldn't be substantially different.
I still AM one of those "fucking kids" (mentally if not chronologically) and none of the other cutural archetypes you mention fill me with rage.
Hell, even emos just fill me with a sense of pity.
Hell, even hippies (HIPPIES FFS!!) are more respectable since they actually at least THINK they sort of have a reason for being who and what they are.
Have you even SEEN any hippies under 30 who aren't just a type of hipster?
actually yes. Maine is full of them. They're endearingly earnest, if a bit stinky.
You have holdouts!
Quote from: Cramulus on September 20, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
(http://guestofaguest.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/hipster1.jpg)
Your hipsters are obviously defective. Ours are much better looking.
Still retarded, but only in a "kids these days" kind of retarded, these are just people wearing ugly shit.
For some reason (better judgement? sense of aesthetics?) the ones here never came up with the idea that your clothes aren't allowed to match, EVER. :)
Pics?
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:49:56 PMExcept that... as hip as it is to hate on hipsters... "Hipster" is pretty much just a term that describes young urban people. It's nothing more than monkeys being monkeys; "THEY are hipsters; WE are better than them".
90% of the people here are indistinguishable from "hipsters" from an outside perspective. Since "Hipsters" are almost ALWAYS defined by an outside perspective, that makes the majority of us "hipsters".
When I was first introduced to this idea about two months ago, it pissed me the fuck off. Why? Because I'm not a fucking hipster... right? I mean... I'm not... really... oh wait. Who defines "hipster"? Who decides who is a hipster? Hipsters don't consider themselves hipsters. Hipsters HATE hipsters and would argue bitterly against being labeled a hipster. So... who decides who is a hipster? Who even knows what a hipster is? Lots of people don't know what a hipster is, and couldn't point out a hipster in a crowd. They don't hate hipsters. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that those people are definitely NOT hipsters.
Quote from: Nigel on September 20, 2010, 08:39:03 PM
Here's a question for you; in what way am I definitely NOT a hipster? If I was sitting at the Nest and someone looked at me and decided I was a hipster, what would make me not a hipster?
WHY are you so worried about all this, really?
It's just ... stuff?
So do I get this right, you always had a rather unique lifestyle, colourful, weird things, bright orange cones, something about green cars or trucks or something (just grabbing some random things that come to mind), and then at some point some of your friends tell you you're a hipster cause, apparently, what you've been doing all your life reminds them of hipsterism.
And now you're worried cause they somehow feel they can classify you as "one of category Hipster" instead of them having to figure you out for being just your unique self like you've always been and (probably) will be?
And that's of course worrying because now they expect you to be a hipster in other ways as well, ways that you wouldn't like.
And because "hipster" is so ephemeral, so unclassifiable, you can't say you're not one cause that makes you one for being all ironic and stuff, that's worrying? Cause the unclassifiable bit isn't new either. In the Netherlands around 1995-2000 or so, there was the "alternative" kids, and they would never ever call themselves "alternatives"*, cause they were just doing their own stuff, you know? [which is different from Germany btw, where they had no problem calling themselves alternative. It's still quite alive there, too]
* actually one afternoon, my alternative friends even figured out the irony bit that hipsters do: they said, hey wait a minute, we don't call ourselves alternative eh, cause that'd be LABELING, but on the other hand, we wear the clothes, we like the music, and behave "alternative" .. so um, I'm alternative! Yeah, I guess, me too. And then it was all self-referential and ironic, but it never caught on anywhere except that one afternoon, until about 10 years later with these hipsters, apparently :)
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 21, 2010, 01:22:23 AMPics?
snapping pics of 17-19 year old girls and posting them on the internet? even though the age of consent in NL is 16, that's still creepy :-P
other option would be trawling the internets looking for some dutch hipster forums, do you mind if I pass? :)
Nigel is original in her weirdness.
She's not a hipster.
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
I always ride fixed gear bikes because without gears, that's just one less part to break, rust, or be crappy. But then, NL being so flat as it is, you can get around with fixed gears without much problems anyway :)
Also, I don't like those cables that go to the handles to switch the gears or brake. Those things always break and rust.
This is the kind of bike I always get:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Opoefiets_lara.jpg/800px-Opoefiets_lara.jpg)
(btw also notice the cows and fields and incredible flatness of the landscape, I just need to bike 15 minutes in any single direction to get out of the city and into a landscape like that :D )
It's called an "omafiets", grandmother bike. Yes it looks very retro and all that, and now that I think of it, it could be they are more readily available as new because of their retro popularity, but really for most people the big reason to get them is because they are very simple and very sturdy. And the Dutch do indeed have a cultural preference for "no-frills" designs :)
See now, I'm not worried... I'm engaged, interested, and amused by the whole thing, and I think it's well worth tearing apart a little.
That bike, by the way, is rad.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Not mine. Of course it can freewheel, otherwise I'd mangle my feet if I was going really fast. And you brake by pedaling backwards, which activates the brake thing (I'm horribly lacking in knowledge of mechanics, so I dunno how that works, but it does. Hence I prefer the simpler bike for easier fixing) (not true--I bring it to the bike shop, because otherwise I know it'll be weeks before I fix it and I start walking everywhere)
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
Quote from: Cudgel on September 20, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
Why would someone purposefully get fixed geared bikes?
I always ride fixed gear bikes because without gears, that's just one less part to break, rust, or be crappy. But then, NL being so flat as it is, you can get around with fixed gears without much problems anyway :)
Also, I don't like those cables that go to the handles to switch the gears or brake. Those things always break and rust.
This is the kind of bike I always get:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Opoefiets_lara.jpg/800px-Opoefiets_lara.jpg)
(btw also notice the cows and fields and incredible flatness of the landscape, I just need to bike 15 minutes in any single direction to get out of the city and into a landscape like that :D )
It's called an "omafiets", grandmother bike. Yes it looks very retro and all that, and now that I think of it, it could be they are more readily available as new because of their retro popularity, but really for most people the big reason to get them is because they are very simple and very sturdy. And the Dutch do indeed have a cultural preference for "no-frills" designs :)
I would take one of those and add more gears. And real brakes.
I've had a derailer fail on me once. The part I have had fail the most on any bike I have ever owned, aside from inner tubes, were the cones in the front and rear axles. Rust isn't really an issue.
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:44:08 AM
This is the kind of bike I always get:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/73/Opoefiets_lara.jpg/800px-Opoefiets_lara.jpg)
Yes, but you're from Europe and don't know any better.
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Not mine. Of course it can freewheel, otherwise I'd mangle my feet if I was going really fast. And you brake by pedaling backwards, which activates the brake thing (I'm horribly lacking in knowledge of mechanics, so I dunno how that works, but it does. Hence I prefer the simpler bike for easier fixing) (not true--I bring it to the bike shop, because otherwise I know it'll be weeks before I fix it and I start walking everywhere)
That kind of bike is a "Single speed freewheel". "Fixed gear" refers specifically to single-speed bikes without freewheel... in the UK they're called "fixed wheel". Hand brakes are now mandatory on them in Portland.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 02:55:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Not mine. Of course it can freewheel, otherwise I'd mangle my feet if I was going really fast. And you brake by pedaling backwards, which activates the brake thing (I'm horribly lacking in knowledge of mechanics, so I dunno how that works, but it does. Hence I prefer the simpler bike for easier fixing) (not true--I bring it to the bike shop, because otherwise I know it'll be weeks before I fix it and I start walking everywhere)
That kind of bike is a "Single speed freewheel". "Fixed gear" refers specifically to single-speed bikes without freewheel... in the UK they're called "fixed wheel". Hand brakes are now mandatory on them in Portland.
I was gonna say, that seems a little Darwinish.
...I BOUGHT ARGYLE SWEATER TODAY. I AM HIPSTER NAO?
depends, is it 2 sizes too small?
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on September 21, 2010, 03:47:22 AM
depends, is it 2 sizes too small?
...It's of a fitted female cut, but I can close it when I wear it without significant gaps in the buttons.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 02:57:20 AM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 02:55:24 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Not mine. Of course it can freewheel, otherwise I'd mangle my feet if I was going really fast. And you brake by pedaling backwards, which activates the brake thing (I'm horribly lacking in knowledge of mechanics, so I dunno how that works, but it does. Hence I prefer the simpler bike for easier fixing) (not true--I bring it to the bike shop, because otherwise I know it'll be weeks before I fix it and I start walking everywhere)
That kind of bike is a "Single speed freewheel". "Fixed gear" refers specifically to single-speed bikes without freewheel... in the UK they're called "fixed wheel". Hand brakes are now mandatory on them in Portland.
I was gonna say, that seems a little Darwinish.
Fuck yeah! Especially in a town with a lot of hills.
Quote from: Triple Zero on September 21, 2010, 01:56:41 AM
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 20, 2010, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: Requia ☣ on September 20, 2010, 11:48:58 PM
Fixed gear bikes don't have brakes? :?
No freewheel either: so your legs are moving at all times that the wheel is moving.
Not mine. Of course it can freewheel, otherwise I'd mangle my feet if I was going really fast. And you brake by pedaling backwards, which activates the brake thing (I'm horribly lacking in knowledge of mechanics, so I dunno how that works, but it does. Hence I prefer the simpler bike for easier fixing) (not true--I bring it to the bike shop, because otherwise I know it'll be weeks before I fix it and I start walking everywhere)
That's a coaster brake. And yeah, I dig the scatgranny bike. I'd ride it.
I fixed up donated bikes and rode a 24" BMX for a while, so I appreciate simplicity.
But at some point simplicity just becomes stupidity.
Quote from: Ne+@uNGr0+ on September 21, 2010, 06:17:28 AM
I dig the scatgranny bike. I'd ride it.
embiggened for extra out of context-ness!!
and non-freewheeling bikes sound like the most retarded thing ever, no matter how many gears they don't have.
IM SO HIPSTER, THOUGH MY BIKE HAS GEARS, I ONLY SWITCH THEM
IRONICALLY.
I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.
-thick frame glasses.
-each ear has two earrings.
-MOUSTACHE.
-plays in indie rock band.
-pretentious music fuck.
-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 02:24:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.
-thick frame glasses.
-each ear has two earrings.
-MOUSTACHE.
-plays in indie rock band.
-pretentious music fuck.
-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.
No, all the hipsters just wanna be liek YUO.
Well, that's a relief.
I live in Westchester New York, a 10 minute subway ride from the Big City. Around here, moustaches, PBR, tweed jackets, and indie music are the local fashion right now. None of my friends have ever described themselves as "hipsters", around here that word tends is used specifically for people living in Williamsburg.
I remember when they were called "scenesters"- in my memory that did seem like a more specific and well defined group of people. In college I knew people who considered themselves "scene". I'm still not entirely sure what that means other than wearing retro clothes and being vaguely condescending all the time. But you know what, that's such a general new york trait it's hard to say it belongs to any one group.
A bunch of people woke up at my house on Saturday after a late night booze marathon. This one chick was so NYC condescending I wanted to elbow her in the face. Somebody was like, "Let's get bagels!" and this chick rolled her eyes and said "I'm from Brooklyn."
"So?" somebody asked.
"So why would I want to eat upstate bagels?"
"upstate" -- in New York speak, this translates to "the crappy part of New York north of where I live."
My friend John said, "You know out here in the sticks, we eat bagels too."
like what the fuck, your bagels are so delicious you ONLY eat brooklyn bagels, our boondock bagels aren't up to your royal tastes? FUCK NYC and the holier than thou NYC attitude.
I'll give the right wing media this - they are actually right about Upper East Coast Elitism. It's a fucking cancer I tells ya.
See I still have trouble figuring out why I should hate this broad, ill defined group of people referred to as "hipsters". My hate is more specific: Brooklynites
Quote from: Cramulus on September 21, 2010, 02:51:18 PM
I remember when they were called "scenesters"- in my memory that did seem like a more specific and well defined group of people. In college I knew people who considered themselves "scene". I'm still not entirely sure what that means other than wearing retro clothes and being vaguely condescending all the time. But you know what, that's such a general new york trait it's hard to say it belongs to any one group.
I thought "scene" was more like, happy emos, I can't really think of another way to describe it. Kinda like Boxxy I guess?
Is this something different? Did "Scene" change its meaning at some point?
"Scene" is the laziest nomenclature I have ever encountered.
"No man, we just don't dig on adjectives."
Quote from: Rumckle on September 21, 2010, 02:56:40 PM
I thought "scene" was more like, happy emos, I can't really think of another way to describe it. Kinda like Boxxy I guess?
Is this something different? Did "Scene" change its meaning at some point?
From where I'm sitting
emos became scenesters in like 2003-2004
Emo, by the way, is another one of those ill-defined categories. When I say "Emo", you know what I'm talking about -- it brings to mind a specific attitude, style of dress, musical taste... but I haven't met many people who ever identified as "Emos".
scenesters became hipsters sometime after that. I hadn't heard the word Hipster until like 2008.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 03:01:28 PM
"Scene" is the laziest nomenclature I have ever encountered.
"No man, we just don't dig on adjectives."
I think the laziest one is "indie". Which has the same sort of vague ill-defined anti-establishment vibe as "alternative". Remember when all the rock music in the top 40 was "alternative"? What does that mean if it's the mainstream? I know a ton of people who describe themselves as being into "indie" culture -- at a glance, it doesn't seem much different than Hipster culture. The line between youth subculture and music genre is pretty thin in some places, no?
I've been aware of the term "hipster" in it's current context since at least 2000 or 2001. We used to use it to describe all the Seattle chicks who tried to look like Betty Page, hung out at the Cha Cha lounge, and only slept with guys in bands.
I didn't hate them back then, though, because I like the Betty Page look alot more than I like the "borderline homeless/I cut my own hair" look.
Also, I was in a band.
"borderline homeless/I cut my own hair"
:lulz:
how does that keep coming back in style?
here's a shot of my girlfriend's old band:
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/103/l_c661a4c9aa9f46239d64e15878cc9c36.jpg)
this is a self-described "indie" band.
that dude in the red hat used to be the lead singer. Maybe it's just because he's from Maine, but he dresses explicitly like he's a lumberjack. I never got it. Flannel, big unkempt beard, wool hats...
If you'd asked somebody from 1990 what the future was going to look like, they'd probably be able to call that it'll look like this:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QAMJYiI2vgE/SvsK2Eet72I/AAAAAAAAAOQ/iFcQDwnZKwA/s1600/Lady+Gaga+Bad+Romance.jpg)
but who could have guessed it would look like this?
(http://www.humpeldudel.de/pic/lumberjack.jpg)
Being "indie" means you're an emo kid with facial hair.
Being a "hipster" means you're an indie kid who is being made fun of for being an emo past the age of twenty and so is claiming they are doing it "ironically".
:lulz: I like that
So, if hipsters put on a style that is mockery, then if one were to mock *that* style in order to be ironic would it be revered or dismissed?
Has anyone heard of the Mexican chuntaros style? Some of my friends have friends into that and I'm guessing thats what happened there...
What a gawdawfully wonderful mess that is!
(for reference check out www.chuntaritos.com )
Quote from: Cramulus on September 21, 2010, 03:04:39 PM
I think the laziest one is "indie". Which has the same sort of vague ill-defined anti-establishment vibe as "alternative". Remember when all the rock music in the top 40 was "alternative"? What does that mean if it's the mainstream? I know a ton of people who describe themselves as being into "indie" culture -- at a glance, it doesn't seem much different than Hipster culture. The line between youth subculture and music genre is pretty thin in some places, no?
Yeah. Though it's a little different when you're in a small town where there aren't very many kids. I was in high school during the early 90s when Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden were blowing up. But I was in a tiny high school up in Northern Maine where all we had was Top 40 radio and Country Western. In the beginning the only exposure to that stuff was through shows like 120 Minutes on MTV before it blew up and became mainstream. So kids like me were basically just labeled as "the weirdos", we didn't really have labels like "indie" or "alternative".
But eventually it did break through and everyone started wearing flannels and torn jeans, though most of them still were listening to Paula Abdul and Garth Brooks. They wanted to look the part, but not necessarily go any deeper than that.
I see pointy elf shoes are making a comeback.
(http://www.chuntaritos.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/20100913_09.jpg)
And the girls really eat that stuff up. They think the guys with plaid elf boots and way too small cowboy hats cocked off to the side are really hot.
We've got to pervert the hipsters scene in such a way...
When I was a kid, and I dressed Goth or punk, I wasn't cool, and I sure as hell wasn't hip, you know what I was called?
"Weird"
"Gay"
"Stupid"
"Retarded"
"Loser"
"Scrub"
et al.
I think I'm glad I'm just to old to have to worry about any of this. At some point in your life you have to decide whether or not you give a flying fuck about what anyone else around you says, does, wears, lives etc... I decided I really don't care.
I do know if I saw someone on those butt ugly plaid shoe/boots I would probably have a stroke from laughing so damn hard. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 21, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 02:24:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.
-thick frame glasses.
-each ear has two earrings.
-MOUSTACHE.
-plays in indie rock band.
-pretentious music fuck.
-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.
No, all the hipsters just wanna be liek YUO.
That's what all my friends say about each other. I no longer buy into it. We're not exceptions because we're somehow "special" or "smarter" or "authentic" or "did it first". If we look enough like hipsters that people think we're hipsters, then for all intents and purposes we're hipsters. All the rest of it is just monkey categorization and us/them bullshit.
I knew it.
LMNO
-Hipster.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 21, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 02:24:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.
-thick frame glasses.
-each ear has two earrings.
-MOUSTACHE.
-plays in indie rock band.
-pretentious music fuck.
-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.
No, all the hipsters just wanna be liek YUO.
That's what all my friends say about each other. I no longer buy into it. We're not exceptions because we're somehow "special" or "smarter" or "authentic" or "did it first". If we look enough like hipsters that people think we're hipsters, then for all intents and purposes we're hipsters. All the rest of it is just monkey categorization and us/them bullshit.
Nope.
You do what you do because you like it, as far as I've ever seen, not because you feel "ironic".
Dok,
Isn't buying this "just another case of monkeyism" argument.
Ok, now I'm just confused.
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MY OPINION IS?
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:17:30 PM
Ok, now I'm just confused.
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT MY OPINION IS?
"The Red Sox SUCK BALLS."
There.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:15:47 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 21, 2010, 02:31:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 02:24:12 PM
I'm pretty sure I'm a hipster.
-thick frame glasses.
-each ear has two earrings.
-MOUSTACHE.
-plays in indie rock band.
-pretentious music fuck.
-spent majority of trust fund getting drunk.
No, all the hipsters just wanna be liek YUO.
That's what all my friends say about each other. I no longer buy into it. We're not exceptions because we're somehow "special" or "smarter" or "authentic" or "did it first". If we look enough like hipsters that people think we're hipsters, then for all intents and purposes we're hipsters. All the rest of it is just monkey categorization and us/them bullshit.
Nope.
You do what you do because you like it, as far as I've ever seen, not because you feel "ironic".
Dok,
Isn't buying this "just another case of monkeyism" argument.
Who decides who is authentic and who's being ironic? Most youth will say they do or wear something because they like it. That whole "ironic" hipster thing is from ten years ago. Hipsters (AKA "young people") are now into genuinely liking things that used to only be liked ironically.
The "irony" thing was so much more applicable to our generation; GenXers were the most "ironic" fucks ever. I might wear something because they think it's funny... I might even think it's cool. If I like something I think it's cool. Most people think the stuff they like is cool, including the stuff they think is funny. Including stuff they think is funny because it's ironic.
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
Basically, there is no reason for people like me & Alphapance to think we are, despite looking like hipsters (aging hipsters, but hipsters nonetheless), somehow not hipsters, unless we believe we are somehow special, unique, and set apart from everyone else who also look like hipsters. In other words, we would have to believe in some kind of elite qualities which we are unique in possessing.
I'm not buying into it.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and
CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I heard some Ukulele at the Honolulu Ukulele Festival that was absolutely incredible....
Quote from: Iptuous on September 21, 2010, 08:33:09 PM
I heard some Ukulele at the Honolulu Ukulele Festival that was absolutely incredible....
Go ahead. Tell me to explain why that's different. Be my fucking guest.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Why is every goddam thing in the world being redefined lately?
no need. i actually totally get you.
the folks you are talking about will drop the Uke like a hot potato the first time they hear a crowd of average joes applauding a serious performance that deserves it...
i was just taking the opportunity to pique curiosity and inspire some youtube searching, because i just heard some of the stuff about a month ago and was blown away...
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 21, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Why is every goddam thing in the world being redefined lately?
Meme creep?
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 21, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
When I was a kid, and I dressed Goth or punk, I wasn't cool, and I sure as hell wasn't hip, you know what I was called?
"Weird"
"Gay"
"Stupid"
"Retarded"
"Loser"
"Scrub"
et al.
Those are all words that apply to Hipsters, depending on which other Hipsters you ask.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on September 21, 2010, 08:33:09 PM
I heard some Ukulele at the Honolulu Ukulele Festival that was absolutely incredible....
Go ahead. Tell me to explain why that's different. Be my fucking guest.
I play the 'ukulele, poorly, but I play it.
Am I a hipster? Does my particular odd manner of dress make me a hipster? I'm a pretty weird person, is that hipster?
Are hipsters into bugs or something? Ironically, I mean.
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on September 21, 2010, 08:33:09 PM
I heard some Ukulele at the Honolulu Ukulele Festival that was absolutely incredible....
Go ahead. Tell me to explain why that's different. Be my fucking guest.
I play the 'ukulele, poorly, but I play it.
Am I a hipster? Does my particular odd manner of dress make me a hipster? I'm a pretty weird person, is that hipster?
Are hipsters into bugs or something? Ironically, I mean.
I watched a B horror about killer locusts. I thought of you and how you would have been in the middle of that shit.
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 21, 2010, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:34:16 PM
Quote from: Iptuous on September 21, 2010, 08:33:09 PM
I heard some Ukulele at the Honolulu Ukulele Festival that was absolutely incredible....
Go ahead. Tell me to explain why that's different. Be my fucking guest.
I play the 'ukulele, poorly, but I play it.
Am I a hipster? Does my particular odd manner of dress make me a hipster? I'm a pretty weird person, is that hipster?
Are hipsters into bugs or something? Ironically, I mean.
I watched a B horror about killer locusts. I thought of you and how you would have been in the middle of that shit.
I would have figured out a way to control them and become a nigh-invincible God of the Swarm.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
I think my problem is that "hipster" sounds like it means simply "pretentious asshole".
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Why?
Because I went from describing an evening that filled me with loathing, to having everyone ask me if they're a hipster and do I hate them.
Because my opinion on that evening, and the sorts of shitbags that made it so horrible, has apparently rendered me into the next incarnation of Lester Maddox.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Why?
Because I went from describing an evening that filled me with loathing, to having everyone ask me if they're a hipster and do I hate them.
Because my opinion on that evening, and the sorts of shitbags that made it so horrible, has apparently rendered me into the next incarnation of Lester Maddox.
You know well I couldn't care less if some people label me a hipster. I was just curious. I could un-ironically start calling myself a hipster. What would they think then?
And no, you're good, Roger. :)
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Why?
Because I went from describing an evening that filled me with loathing, to having everyone ask me if they're a hipster and do I hate them.
Because my opinion on that evening, and the sorts of shitbags that made it so horrible, has apparently rendered me into the next incarnation of Lester Maddox.
You know well I couldn't care less if some people label me a hipster. I was just curious. I could un-ironically start calling myself a hipster. What would they think then?
And no, you're good, Roger. :)
I know. But it seemed that people were just lining the fuck up.
It doesn't much matter to me what I am or what I am not, and now that I'm in my mid 30s I don't think it really matters much anyway. I was the "weird" "alternative" kid in school. Now I'm just another white middle-class schmoe. I don't like people much and really don't do much socializing outside of work-related events so maybe I'm like a hermit hipster or something. Though I suppose being a punster is bad enough.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:19:59 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Why?
Because I went from describing an evening that filled me with loathing, to having everyone ask me if they're a hipster and do I hate them.
Because my opinion on that evening, and the sorts of shitbags that made it so horrible, has apparently rendered me into the next incarnation of Lester Maddox.
You know well I couldn't care less if some people label me a hipster. I was just curious. I could un-ironically start calling myself a hipster. What would they think then?
And no, you're good, Roger. :)
I know. But it seemed that people were just lining the fuck up.
Example: http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=26588.0
Ahh, the rewards of just being a hick.
Vexation, of course, never has the balls to attack unless a half a dozen other people are.
I can't stand a fucking coward.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:00:08 PM
Quote from: Kai on September 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on September 21, 2010, 08:51:55 PM
Freaks =/= hipsters.
Incidentally, I only use the term "freak" as a compliment.
This.
And I think I should leave now.
Why?
Because I went from describing an evening that filled me with loathing, to having everyone ask me if they're a hipster and do I hate them.
Because my opinion on that evening, and the sorts of shitbags that made it so horrible, has apparently rendered me into the next incarnation of Lester Maddox.
You know well I couldn't care less if some people label me a hipster. I was just curious. I could un-ironically start calling myself a hipster. What would they think then?
And no, you're good, Roger. :)
Oh, I am COMPLETELY in favor of people self-labeling as hipsters. People don't know what to do if you say you're a hipster. It short-circuits them, because hipsters hate hipsters and always deny being hipsters.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
It also might be published in the newspaper, which would be worth it if only for the opportunity of inflicting on the public the horrible mental image of someone - or something - licking cheese sauce out of your back hair.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
It also might be published in the newspaper, which would be worth it if only for the opportunity of inflicting on the public the horrible mental image of someone - or something - licking cheese sauce out of your back hair.
That wouldn't be an issue any longer. Nurse Enabler has - at great cost - won the first round of BW I.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:45:59 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
It also might be published in the newspaper, which would be worth it if only for the opportunity of inflicting on the public the horrible mental image of someone - or something - licking cheese sauce out of your back hair.
That wouldn't be an issue any longer. Nurse Enabler has - at great cost - won the first round of BW I.
FOR NOW.
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:56:07 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:53:29 PM
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 09:44:23 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:35:45 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on September 21, 2010, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
It also might be published in the newspaper, which would be worth it if only for the opportunity of inflicting on the public the horrible mental image of someone - or something - licking cheese sauce out of your back hair.
That wouldn't be an issue any longer. Nurse Enabler has - at great cost - won the first round of BW I.
FOR NOW.
Lazor for head, neck, and back = $1700.
I just happen to have that much.
Going back a few pages, Cram-
The beard thing is typically Mainer. As far as the flannel, I'm guessing that many Mainers do do that, but not the ones I have had extensive dealings with.
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Quote from: Nigel on September 21, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Have you seen how "hipsters" have now been subdivided into all these categories that basically includes jocks? Totally stupid. The way the word is being used now, not only is everybody a hipster, but hipsters like EVERYTHING. Unironically.
No, I haven't seen that. I'm directing my wretched and vile hatred at a particular group, in revenge for what they subjected me to. For example, if you play the ukelele and your name isn't Tiny Tim, you should be covered in butter and chives and be given to the CHUD under Portland.
Likewise, if you wear non-shaded, non-prescription glasses, or some goofy fucking flipped cap, you should be thrown in a settling pond, weighed down by a fixed-gear bike.
Hipster has a particular definition for me, "Hipster Classic", so to speak, and the next time I have to try to enjoy a Turkish coffee while one of them drones on and on about how "ironic" his pathetic little life is, I'm going to steal Richter's morning star and CLEANSE THE FUCKING TEMPLE!
Fair enough.
I was traumatized, Nigel. Even the decor was early Abba. Richter had to forcibly restrain me from self-immolation using a Fondu burner.
Death by fondue! :x
It seemed like the thing to do at the time.
On the plus side, my corpse would be covered in cheesy goodness.
Leading to the plausible possibility of being posthumously licked clean.
I'm kind of okay with that. I mean, I wouldn't be around for the horrible outraged police beatings that would follow.
It also might be published in the newspaper, which would be worth it if only for the opportunity of inflicting on the public the horrible mental image of someone - or something - licking cheese sauce out of your back hair.
That wouldn't be an issue any longer. Nurse Enabler has - at great cost - won the first round of BW I.
FOR NOW.
Lazor for head, neck, and back = $1700.
I just happen to have that much.
OH, WOW. I don't even know what emotion to have.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on September 21, 2010, 11:51:54 PM
Going back a few pages, Cram-
The beard thing is typically Mainer. As far as the flannel, I'm guessing that many Mainers do do that, but not the ones I have had extensive dealings with.
we tend to worry more about whether or not the shirt is wool than what pattern it's decorated in, but many wool shirts end up being plaid.
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 21, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
Ahh, the rewards of just being a hick.
DON'T
you mean
hickster? :rimshot:
Alanis was ironic at the same time I was a scrub.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 22, 2010, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 21, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
Ahh, the rewards of just being a hick.
DON'T
you mean hickster? :rimshot:
That reminds me of a discussion I was having last night about Christian hipsters, and whether they would be Chripsters.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 22, 2010, 12:54:40 AM
Alanis was ironic at the same time I was a scrub.
Yep: 1995. And people have been smugly pointing out that her use of the term "ironic" is, ironically, a malapropism for most of the events in the song ever since.
Quote from: E.O.T. on September 22, 2010, 12:23:38 AM
Quote from: Charley Brown on September 21, 2010, 09:26:43 PM
Ahh, the rewards of just being a hick.
DON'T
you mean hickster? :rimshot:
We are far too simple for that, inbreeding demands it.
Quote from: Nigel on September 22, 2010, 01:00:19 AM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on September 22, 2010, 12:54:40 AM
Alanis was ironic at the same time I was a scrub.
Yep: 1995. And people have been smugly pointing out that her use of the term "ironic" is, ironically, a malapropism for most of the events in the song ever since.
In a sense, morisette was a pretty successful troll.
sweet merciful fuck I just realized this is the new hipster icon
:emo:
Hal on Hipsters:
"Because it's funny to dress stupidly to mock people who dress stupidly because it's funny."
Quote from: Cramulus on September 23, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
Hal on Hipsters:
"Because it's funny to dress stupidly to mock people who dress stupidly because it's funny."
I think my eyes just went bloodshot.
I'm not sure what to make of this thread. That hipsters are bad people?
Hipsters are bad people, Islamic terrorists have giant beards, goatees always looked stupid and emos are fun to push down stairs. These are all a priori assumptions any reasonable person can accept.
Do you know what they called Hipsters in the 1960s?
Mods.
Same shit, different era.
-Suu
Rocker.
I think current-day hipsters would be much more amusing if they were constantly twitching from taking too much speed.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 01:39:51 PM
I think current-day hipsters would be much more amusing if they were constantly twitching from taking too much speed.
So we take over a PBR brewery and introduce some speed into it.
Well fuck Eris with a Popsicle stick this thread just made me even more Confused. The Harbinger of Distraction and I were talking about hipsters last night and she asked "Well, what exactly is a hipster?" I had no good answer (hadn't seen this thread) so we googled it.
Based on all the definitions (some quoted early in this thread) all of my friends are hipsters. They dress like Gen X in college, even though they're Gen X post-30. They like indie music, they go to the monthly Gallery Hop, they drink cheap beer.
But, if Dok is right and Hipsters do these things because their friends do it and they think its cool... then it doesn't seem to fit most of my friends. Most of them have crap jobs with little money and the same wardrobe they had 15 years ago, not a newly purchased knock off of it. They drink cheap beer, cause they can't afford more expensive beer.
So are they hipsters, or are they poor aging GenXers? Or is there a difference?
I don't think we've ever made fun of hipsters, but we do go make fun of the goths at Outland.
Maybe Columbus is too backwater for actual hipsterism?
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 01, 2010, 02:51:30 PM
Well fuck Eris with a Popsicle stick this thread just made me even more Confused. The Harbinger of Distraction and I were talking about hipsters last night and she asked "Well, what exactly is a hipster?" I had no good answer (hadn't seen this thread) so we googled it.
Based on all the definitions (some quoted early in this thread) all of my friends are hipsters. They dress like Gen X in college, even though they're Gen X post-30. They like indie music, they go to the monthly Gallery Hop, they drink cheap beer.
But, if Dok is right and Hipsters do these things because their friends do it and they think its cool... then it doesn't seem to fit most of my friends. Most of them have crap jobs with little money and the same wardrobe they had 15 years ago, not a newly purchased knock off of it. They drink cheap beer, cause they can't afford more expensive beer.
So are they hipsters, or are they poor aging GenXers? Or is there a difference?
I don't think we've ever made fun of hipsters, but we do go make fun of the goths at Outland.
Maybe Columbus is too backwater for actual hipsterism?
If they dress and act the way they do because it's who they are or what they can afford, they're fine.
Hell, I go to galleries. That doesn't qualify you as a hipster, if you're going to see the art instead of being seen seeing the art.
Hipsters don't decide they are hipsters, other people decide hipsters are hipsters.
Hipsters decide other people are hipsters.
Part of defining what makes someone a hipster is claiming that they are inauthentic in some way, ie. a poser.
99% of people who look like hipsters and do the things hipsters do claim to not only not be hipsters, but to actually hate hipsters.
Ask a hipster why they go to galleries, and they will say it's because they like to look at the art.
Usually, hipsters also make the art.
While "metrosexual" and "mod" and "emo" actually have useful, delineated definitions, "hipster" doesn't, really. It basically means "not a yuppie or a hick".
I think a useable definition of hipster may be, "someone who is trying too hard to look cool."
I mean, most of us try to look cool at some point or another (substitute "cool" to whatever term means "personally asthetically pleasing" to you), but when you see someone who is going WAAAAY over the top, you could probably get away with calling them hipsters.
I'M A HIPSTURRRRRRRR
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(http://metalheadguys.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/metal_head-maniac.jpg)
Sites like Look At This Fucking Hipster (http://www.latfh.com/) has some extremely amusing examples.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
I think a useable definition of hipster may be, "someone who is trying too hard to look cool."
I mean, most of us try to look cool at some point or another (substitute "cool" to whatever term means "personally asthetically pleasing" to you), but when you see someone who is going WAAAAY over the top, you could probably get away with calling them hipsters.
Who decides? And how do you know the difference between "WAAAAY over the top" and "Those are just that guy's clothes"?
How can you tell when someone's trying too hard to look cool?
Are all women hipsters, because we tend to put extra time into our wardrobe and appearance?
What about those girls who wear Tommy Hilfiger and love to shop?
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
I think that the word "hipster" is just a way to judge someone for not being me.
Ah so its just a random label. Got it.
:lulz:
Quote from: Ratatosk on October 01, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
Ah so its just a random label. Got it.
:lulz:
It's a really vague and borderline useless label that is usually used by hipsters to describe hipsters that aren't them.
I'll just call them those people from Allston who aren't punks, then.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
I think a useable definition of hipster may be, "someone who is trying too hard to look cool."
I mean, most of us try to look cool at some point or another (substitute "cool" to whatever term means "personally asthetically pleasing" to you), but when you see someone who is going WAAAAY over the top, you could probably get away with calling them hipsters.
Who decides? And how do you know the difference between "WAAAAY over the top" and "Those are just that guy's clothes"?
How can you tell when someone's trying too hard to look cool?
Are all women hipsters, because we tend to put extra time into our wardrobe and appearance?
What about those girls who wear Tommy Hilfiger and love to shop?
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
Fuck it, I'm invoking the Potter Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it) rule.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
You would die if you saw my new handbag. :D
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:34:04 PM
I'll just call them those people from Allston who aren't punks, then.
You can call them whatever you want. I still call them hipsters.
BTW, in 2010 punks are hipsters too.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:09:37 PM
I think a useable definition of hipster may be, "someone who is trying too hard to look cool."
I mean, most of us try to look cool at some point or another (substitute "cool" to whatever term means "personally asthetically pleasing" to you), but when you see someone who is going WAAAAY over the top, you could probably get away with calling them hipsters.
Who decides? And how do you know the difference between "WAAAAY over the top" and "Those are just that guy's clothes"?
How can you tell when someone's trying too hard to look cool?
Are all women hipsters, because we tend to put extra time into our wardrobe and appearance?
What about those girls who wear Tommy Hilfiger and love to shop?
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
Fuck it, I'm invoking the Potter Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it) rule.
I'm gonna give you special leeway on this because you ADMIT to being a hipster, and basically all I'm saying is
it takes one to know one. :p
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
You would die if you saw my new handbag. :D
PICS PLS :fap:
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:36:19 PM
I'm gonna give you special leeway on this because you ADMIT to being a hipster, and basically all I'm saying is it takes one to know one. :p
Damn straight!
LMNO
-handlebar moustache, PBR, Parliment cigarettes, and Sleigh Bells T-shirt at the ready.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:28:30 PM
I think that the word "hipster" is just a way to judge someone for not being me.
I use the words "filthy humans" for that.
Hipster has a distinct meaning, as far as I'm concerned.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:34:04 PM
I'll just call them those people from Allston who aren't punks, then.
You can call them whatever you want. I still call them hipsters.
BTW, in 2010 punks are hipsters too.
I call ageism.
Nah, she's right.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.
It's an identifible genre uniform that while once was simply a natural outgrowth of the cultural zeitgeist has become a rigid set of rules that purposfully sets itself against a cultural norm.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
The name may change, but the symptoms remain the same.
1950s: Everyone.
1960s: Mods.
1970s: Disco clubbers.
1980s: Punks (most).
1990s: Goths.
2000s: Emos.
2010s: Hipsters.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.
She does this when we find a group to sneer at. I consider it a public service.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:44:20 PM
It's an identifible genre uniform that while once was simply a natural outgrowth of the cultural zeitgeist has become a rigid set of rules that purposfully sets itself against a cultural norm.
Hmm. That I can agree with then.
Wouldn't the 50s be "greasers"?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 04:44:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
The name may change, but the symptoms remain the same.
1950s: Everyone.
1960s: Mods.
1970s: Disco clubbers.
1980s: Punks (most).
1990s: Goths.
2000s: Emos.
2010s: Hipsters.
I like this.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.
Metal is totally hip and retro. Who the hell DRESSES LIKE A METALHEAD? Only hipsters.
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:46:00 PM
Wouldn't the 50s be "greasers"?
No. It would be EVERYONE. The 1950s was an incredibly conformist decade. Having the wrong cut of your suit would get you quietly fired. No shit.
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
this is an old dance.
the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions
this creates a demand for things outside of those norms
when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.
Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.
Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.
Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:49:33 PM
this is an old dance.
the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions
this creates a demand for things outside of those norms
when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.
Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.
Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.
Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.
Ken Devries said it best: "Sure, there are oddballs out there, but by the time you've heard of what they do, it's a shrink-wrapped conspiracy product."
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
:lulz:
On the other hand, I'm not gonna trash the Dok outfit just because it becomes fashionable.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Alphapance on October 01, 2010, 04:40:57 PM
Nah, she's right.
How so? She said the same thing about metalheads.
Metal is totally hip and retro. Who the hell DRESSES LIKE A METALHEAD? Only hipsters.
Disagree with metal being retro, since there has never ceased to be metal bands despite changes in popularity. Besides, we're immune to heavy metal poisoning, where as the hipster can only take small doses. We have more in common with D&D geeks than anything else.
I remember when the hipsters in my city were all learning swing dancing an listening to big band music in the late 90's early 00's.
I even saw a zoot suit or two, wingtips, suspenders..
except for the occasional smoking hottie in a short skirt and knee highs which was completely :fap: the rest of it was :lulz:
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 04:54:27 PM
I remember when the hipsters in my city were all learning swing dancing an listening to big band music in the late 90's early 00's.
I even saw a zoot suit or two, wingtips, suspenders..
except for the occasional smoking hottie in a short skirt and knee highs which was completely :fap: the rest of it was :lulz:
Yeah, and that Rockabilly shit in the mid-90s made me want to stab everyone at the bar.
Well, that seals it.
LMNO
-Is very good at swing dancing.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:49:33 PM
this is an old dance.
the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions
this creates a demand for things outside of those norms
when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.
Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.
Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.
Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.
Yes yes yes. Authenticity is a key part of this discussion, because determining who is "authentic" and who is a "poser" is what the social dynamic is all about. "I liked ___ before it was cool" etc.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 04:55:38 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 04:54:27 PM
I remember when the hipsters in my city were all learning swing dancing an listening to big band music in the late 90's early 00's.
I even saw a zoot suit or two, wingtips, suspenders..
except for the occasional smoking hottie in a short skirt and knee highs which was completely :fap: the rest of it was :lulz:
Yeah, and that Rockabilly shit in the mid-90s made me want to stab everyone at the bar.
have to admit the cars were nice though. actually, a group of those fucks came through the city a couple months ago and parked up and down the hipster strip here.
cigarettes rolled up in their sleeves and everything. :horrormirth:
still loved the cars though
I liked being obscure before it was cool.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:49:33 PM
this is an old dance.
the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions
this creates a demand for things outside of those norms
when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.
Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.
Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.
Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.
Yes yes yes. Authenticity is a key part of this discussion, because determining who is "authentic" and who is a "poser" is what the social dynamic is all about. "I liked ___ before it was cool" etc.
Authenticity, again, is utter bullshit.
If you don't do something because you genuinely LIKE it, you're a Pinkboy. End of story.
Yes, that means that if you LIKE being a hipster because of how it makes YOU feel, rather than how it looks to OTHERS, then you're in a state of Slack™, no matter how painful it is for me to admit it.
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
I liked being obscure before it was cool.
I liked being Anonymous before it was cool.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 04:55:38 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 04:54:27 PM
I remember when the hipsters in my city were all learning swing dancing an listening to big band music in the late 90's early 00's.
I even saw a zoot suit or two, wingtips, suspenders..
except for the occasional smoking hottie in a short skirt and knee highs which was completely :fap: the rest of it was :lulz:
Yeah, and that Rockabilly shit in the mid-90s made me want to stab everyone at the bar.
Reverend Horton Heat! Booyeah! One thing to be said for rockabilly though; the chicks are HOT.
Back to swing, if I NEVER EVER hear another Squirrel Nut Zippers song ever ever ever I will die happy.
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
I liked being obscure before it was cool.
:mittens:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:57:00 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:49:33 PM
this is an old dance.
the mainstream contains a set of norms / fashions
this creates a demand for things outside of those norms
when people discover this power, they orient onto it, thereby bringing it into the limelight.
Commercialism quickly orients onto the things the cool kids are doing and creates products to fill those demands.
Every cultural movement with a shred of the avant-garde must go through this cycle.
Authenticity is a quality we attribute to the early innovators, ("the first punks were the real punks") but it's just a coat of paint, a precursor to "selling out", which only means that you had something cool enough for other people to want.
Yes yes yes. Authenticity is a key part of this discussion, because determining who is "authentic" and who is a "poser" is what the social dynamic is all about. "I liked ___ before it was cool" etc.
Authenticity, again, is utter bullshit.
If you don't do something because you genuinely LIKE it, you're a Pinkboy. End of story.
Yes, that means that if you LIKE being a hipster because of how it makes YOU feel, rather than how it looks to OTHERS, then you're in a state of Slack™, no matter how painful it is for me to admit it.
Mittens, and mittens again!
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a
cutting-edge hipster!
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
The above statements are contradictory.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Someone actually needs to write Hipster Shrugged (http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/08/27/hipster-shrugged/), btw.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
agreed. it's like saying to people that you listened *insert band name* before they released an album that got them mainstream attention.
I've actually had people say this to me with some sort of fucked up air of superiority.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
You would die if you saw my new handbag. :D
PICS PLS :fap:
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=37582&vid=1&pid=775210&scid=775210012
It's the obnoxious orange plaid one. Actual colors are much brighter in person...I mean, I saw it from ACROSS the store and even paid FULL PRICE for it. It was love at first sight!
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
YES.
-SUU
*WAS HIPSTER BEFORE IT WAS COOL*
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2010, 05:05:35 PM
Someone actually needs to write Hipster Shrugged (http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/08/27/hipster-shrugged/), btw.
:lulz:
Or Moby Hipster.
Or Hipster the Obscure.
Or The Old Hipster and the Sea.
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 04:59:52 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2010, 04:58:24 PM
I liked being obscure before it was cool.
I liked being Anonymous before it was cool.
I liked liking the shit I like regardless of whether it's cool, outdated, suddenly cool again because its retro, and outdated again because retro coolness made it current again and current isn't cool so lets move onto the next thing before it became cool.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Ahahahaha! That reminds me of when I wanted to get my nose pierced and one of my friends said "Nose rings were cool like five years ago but I would never get one now because EVERYONE'S getting them".
I got my nose pierced anyway, because who the fuck cares?
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
You would die if you saw my new handbag. :D
PICS PLS :fap:
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=37582&vid=1&pid=775210&scid=775210012
It's the obnoxious orange plaid one. Actual colors are much brighter in person...I mean, I saw it from ACROSS the store and even paid FULL PRICE for it. It was love at first sight!
Oh CHRIST that's :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap:
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
agreed. it's like saying to people that you listened *insert band name* before they released an album that got them mainstream attention.
I've actually had people say this to me with some sort of fucked up air of superiority.
"New Aerosmith sucks!"
Translation: I was listening to them for years before everyone who listens to them now.vs
"New Metallica sucks!"
Translation: We already have a Soundgarden.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:07:33 PM
Quote from: Cain on October 01, 2010, 05:05:35 PM
Someone actually needs to write Hipster Shrugged (http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/08/27/hipster-shrugged/), btw.
:lulz:
Or Moby Hipster.
Or Hipster the Obscure.
Or The Old Hipster and the Sea.
On the Origin of Hipsters and the Descent of Man
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Ahahahaha! That reminds me of when I wanted to get my nose pierced and one of my friends said "Nose rings were cool like five years ago but I would never get one now because EVERYONE'S getting them".
I got my nose pierced anyway, because who the fuck cares?
I am opposed to this. Piercing or tattooing the female form is like drawing eyeliner on the Mona Lisa.
You can't improve perfection.
However, that's just my personal opinion.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
agreed. it's like saying to people that you listened *insert band name* before they released an album that got them mainstream attention.
I've actually had people say this to me with some sort of fucked up air of superiority.
"New Aerosmith sucks!"
Translation: I was listening to them for years before everyone who listens to them now.
vs
"New Metallica sucks!"
Translation: We already have a Soundgarden.
Except Soundgarden did it better.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
According to your "logic", since capybaras are mammals, all mammals are capybaras.
Refer to Howl:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
Quote from: The Dancing Pickle on October 01, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
agreed. it's like saying to people that you listened *insert band name* before they released an album that got them mainstream attention.
I've actually had people say this to me with some sort of fucked up air of superiority.
"New Aerosmith sucks!"
Translation: I was listening to them for years before everyone who listens to them now.
vs
"New Metallica sucks!"
Translation: We already have a Soundgarden.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:10:55 PM
I am opposed to this. Piercing or tattooing the female form is like drawing eyeliner on the Mona Lisa.
You can't improve perfection.
However, that's just my personal opinion.
Your opinion is valid, but I wanted a nose ring.
It's still in, 20 years later, and I still like it.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
According to your "logic", since capybaras are mammals, all mammals are capybaras.
Refer to Howl:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
Capybaras aren't mammals. They are a dangerous, poisonous creature from
Wizardy 1.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Which is why I'm going to keep doing Steampunk, even when it's
passe.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
According to your "logic", since capybaras are mammals, all mammals are capybaras.
Refer to Howl:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
The third line of the Dok quote says that the above two statements contradict each other.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:10:55 PM
I am opposed to this. Piercing or tattooing the female form is like drawing eyeliner on the Mona Lisa.
You can't improve perfection.
However, that's just my personal opinion.
Your opinion is valid, but I wanted a nose ring.
It's still in, 20 years later, and I still like it.
Good on ya, if you like it.
But I maintain that trying to improve perfection leads to Portlandism.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:37:09 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:27:20 PM
What about me, on those days when I'm wearing all orange? DEFINITELY over the top.
You would die if you saw my new handbag. :D
PICS PLS :fap:
http://oldnavy.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=37582&vid=1&pid=775210&scid=775210012
It's the obnoxious orange plaid one. Actual colors are much brighter in person...I mean, I saw it from ACROSS the store and even paid FULL PRICE for it. It was love at first sight!
Oh CHRIST that's :fap: :fap: :fap: :fap:
The best part is that it blends into my obnoxious orange hoodie. :fap:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:10:55 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Ahahahaha! That reminds me of when I wanted to get my nose pierced and one of my friends said "Nose rings were cool like five years ago but I would never get one now because EVERYONE'S getting them".
I got my nose pierced anyway, because who the fuck cares?
I am opposed to this. Piercing or tattooing the female form is like drawing eyeliner on the Mona Lisa.
You can't improve perfection.
However, that's just my personal opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcba-ZgtsT4
Lindsay Wagner would probably tell you where you can shove your opinion. and then rip out your spleen.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:14:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:03:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 05:00:54 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
BUT IT'S TRUE.
-Suu
Was steampunk before it was popular.
But it's irrelevant.
It makes her a cutting-edge hipster!
I once knew a guy, back in the army, that would stop listening to bands when they became popular.
He never understood why I giggled when he said that.
Which is why I'm going to keep doing Steampunk, even when it's passe.
Pretty much what I'm doing with Metal.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
The third line of the Dok quote says that the above two statements contradict each other.
Correct. Because, by definition, all hipsters like the same things.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:15:33 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:14:10 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:10:55 PM
I am opposed to this. Piercing or tattooing the female form is like drawing eyeliner on the Mona Lisa.
You can't improve perfection.
However, that's just my personal opinion.
Your opinion is valid, but I wanted a nose ring.
It's still in, 20 years later, and I still like it.
Good on ya, if you like it.
But I maintain that trying to improve perfection leads to Portlandism.
I had piercings, but I took them out. My ears are stretched and I have tattoos though. I want my nose done again and I want more ink...but I'll continue to dress like a fuckin' scrub. Just sayin'.
-Suu
Wearing a Deadpool t-shirt and flip flops AT WORK.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Capybaras aren't mammals. They are a dangerous, poisonous creature from Wizardy 1.
:spittake:
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Capybaras aren't mammals. They are a dangerous, poisonous creature from Wizardy 1.
:spittake:
I just "dated" myself AND outed myself as a long-term geek, didn't I?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
According to your "logic", since capybaras are mammals, all mammals are capybaras.
Refer to Howl:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
The third line of the Dok quote says that the above two statements contradict each other.
That is part of Dok's personal philosophy of hate, which is why I didn't include it.
Your logic is still nonexistent. According to your logic, or lack thereof, since capybaras are mammals, YOU ARE A CAPYBARA.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Capybaras aren't mammals. They are a dangerous, poisonous creature from Wizardy 1.
:spittake:
I just "dated" myself AND outed myself as a long-term geek, didn't I?
I don't know what you're talking about, but I feel like I ought to.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:38:46 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:12:45 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 04:56:02 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 04:49:25 PM
ZOMG THAT SLAYER T-SHIRT IS SO AWESOME! I LOVE IT!
Ok, so a hipster would buy a Slayer shirt on the basis that it's so awesome, whereas the metalhead would buy it because s/he likes Slayer.
The only people who like Slayer are hipsters, though.
Metal was metal in 1980. In 2010, it's a thing college kids are into.
So you like Slayer then?
What is your logic behind that question? I see none.
Hipsters like Slayer, you identify as a hipster, therefore you must like Slayer.
According to your "logic", since capybaras are mammals, all mammals are capybaras.
Refer to Howl:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:03:59 PM
All people who like Slayer are hipsters.
Not all hipsters like Slayer.
The third line of the Dok quote says that the above two statements contradict each other.
That is part of Dok's personal philosophy of hate, which is why I didn't include it.
Your logic is still nonexistent. According to your logic, or lack thereof, since capybaras are mammals, YOU ARE A CAPYBARA.
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
This made me pause in my sacred Eating of the Steak ritual out of confusion. :argh!:
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
Capybaras aren't mammals. They are a dangerous, poisonous creature from Wizardy 1.
:spittake:
I just "dated" myself AND outed myself as a long-term geek, didn't I?
I don't know what you're talking about, but I feel like I ought to.
Video game originally for the Apple II. Still one of the best dungeon games ever made.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
This made me pause in my sacred Eating of the Steak ritual out of confusion. :argh!:
My apologies, continue the steak consumption.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
This made me pause in my sacred Eating of the Steak ritual out of confusion. :argh!:
My apologies, continue the steak consumption.
Isn't sacred anymore, you sacriligious bastard.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:50:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
This made me pause in my sacred Eating of the Steak ritual out of confusion. :argh!:
My apologies, continue the steak consumption.
Isn't sacred anymore, you sacriligious bastard.
And I have no more steak to start over with. :(
YOU BASTARD, BLIGHT! HAVE YOU NO RESPECT? :argh!:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:50:06 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
This made me pause in my sacred Eating of the Steak ritual out of confusion. :argh!:
My apologies, continue the steak consumption.
Isn't sacred anymore, you sacriligious bastard.
I was unaware that there were steak rituals in progress. Otherwise I would have held off on the post in reverent silence until it was completed.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore
only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
He's majoring in Celt. So no.
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
There is no flaw. The flaw is in extrapolating that principle to everything else. :lulz:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 05:54:24 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
He's majoring in Celt. So no.
Ohhh that makes sense. 8)
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster
who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
Also, please note that the statement "A + B = C" does not inherently define that ONLY A + B can = C. It is inclusive, not exclusive.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
No accredited school would teach that.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
This is... beautiful. I weep a tear of joy.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
:crankey:
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
No accredited school would teach that.
Except Harvard.
If I get in Middle Welsh would be a required course. :oops:
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
No accredited school would teach that.
Except Harvard.
If I get in Middle Welsh would be a required course. :oops:
Oh, that's that liberal arts place upstream from MIT, right?
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:02:11 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 06:00:08 PM
At least we can ALL agree at least he's not majoring in Welsh.
No accredited school would teach that.
Except Harvard.
If I get in Middle Welsh would be a required course. :oops:
Oh, that's that liberal arts place upstream from MIT, right?
Yep.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
The world just keeps making less and less sense.
ETA: How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
The world just keeps making less and less sense.
ETA: How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
The world just keeps making less and less sense.
ETA: How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
It's a racial trait trade-out, like the elven magic trait for a boost to tracking, or a dwarf's "Greed" for extra speed or whatever. It's in the Advanced Players Guide, right next to "Halfling".
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:10:53 PM
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:10:53 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
The world just keeps making less and less sense.
ETA: How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6467/durexperformab9e4fdti5.jpg)
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 01, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:10:53 PM
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
NO.
It's actually not a joke link. It's Jake Shimabukuro, who's a ukulele freaking virtuoso, playing While My Guitar Gently Weeps. It's goddamn incredible.
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 01, 2010, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 01, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:10:53 PM
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
NO.
It's actually not a joke link. It's Jake Shimabukuro, who's a ukulele freaking virtuoso, playing While My Guitar Gently Weeps. It's goddamn incredible.
NO. JUST FUCKING NO. You East coast spags already fucked me up once with your hipster shit, and I AM NOT CLICKING A LINK THAT INVOLVES CLASSIC SONGS REDONE ON A FUCKING UKELELE. I already put up with some Alanys Morrisette clone doing TOM FUCKING PETTY on a FUCKING UKELELE
1, and I think that was QUITE FUCKING ENOUGH.
I know you weren't there that day, but you didn't warn me, either, so I'm holding you equally responsible with Suu, Richter, and Dimo. I should have fucking known better, but I JUST HAD TO FUCKING GO.
Well, I've learned my Goddamned lesson. Never trust Easterners, especially when it comes to music.
Even General Stuart plays the Goddamn banjo, though his singer was doing some really cool Hank Sr-esque shit, so I won't put a hit out on him. For the moment.
Jesusfuckshitgoddamn.
1 Let me say that again: TOM FUCKING PETTY WITH A FUCKING UKELELE.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
It's a racial trait trade-out, like the elven magic trait for a boost to tracking, or a dwarf's "Greed" for extra speed or whatever. It's in the Advanced Players Guide, right next to "Halfling".
:( I'd have thought at least Dok would have found this entertaining.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
It's a racial trait trade-out, like the elven magic trait for a boost to tracking, or a dwarf's "Greed" for extra speed or whatever. It's in the Advanced Players Guide, right next to "Halfling".
:( I'd have thought at least Dok would have found this entertaining.
Sorry. I was rendered blind with rage.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:25:23 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:24:38 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
It's a racial trait trade-out, like the elven magic trait for a boost to tracking, or a dwarf's "Greed" for extra speed or whatever. It's in the Advanced Players Guide, right next to "Halfling".
:( I'd have thought at least Dok would have found this entertaining.
Sorry. I was rendered blind with rage.
No worries.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
It's true.
I think he may be the first hipster to achieve self-awareness. This is
historical, folks.
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Mistress Freeky, HRN on October 01, 2010, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:56:31 PM
Quote from: The Lord and Lady Omnibus Fuck on October 01, 2010, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Doktor Blight on October 01, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
This is correct, and we have actual proof: Mr Language.
The world just keeps making less and less sense.
ETA: How does the hipster attain self-recognition?
It's a racial trait trade-out, like the elven magic trait for a boost to tracking, or a dwarf's "Greed" for extra speed or whatever. It's in the Advanced Players Guide, right next to "Halfling".
:lulz: I love you.
Page 23, motherfucker! And look at this fucking hipster with his hurdy-gurdy!
(http://www.georgettetan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/2006-hurdygurdy.jpg)
And this hipster! Pepin, HURDY-GURDY MASTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQBRA74HrFQ
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:22:46 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 01, 2010, 06:18:22 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:13:43 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 01, 2010, 06:13:15 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 06:10:53 PM
SHOW ME THE SOUND OF ONE UKELELE PLAYING.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puSkP3uym5k
NO.
It's actually not a joke link. It's Jake Shimabukuro, who's a ukulele freaking virtuoso, playing While My Guitar Gently Weeps. It's goddamn incredible.
NO. JUST FUCKING NO. You East coast spags already fucked me up once with your hipster shit, and I AM NOT CLICKING A LINK THAT INVOLVES CLASSIC SONGS REDONE ON A FUCKING UKELELE. I already put up with some Alanys Morrisette clone doing TOM FUCKING PETTY on a FUCKING UKELELE1, and I think that was QUITE FUCKING ENOUGH.
I know you weren't there that day, but you didn't warn me, either, so I'm holding you equally responsible with Suu, Richter, and Dimo. I should have fucking known better, but I JUST HAD TO FUCKING GO.
Well, I've learned my Goddamned lesson. Never trust Easterners, especially when it comes to music.
Even General Stuart plays the Goddamn banjo, though his singer was doing some really cool Hank Sr-esque shit, so I won't put a hit out on him. For the moment.
Jesusfuckshitgoddamn.
1 Let me say that again: TOM FUCKING PETTY WITH A FUCKING UKELELE.
Ahaha. I didn't realize Howl had Providence PTSD. It really is a good link and a beautiful rendition of the song. If it helps, he's not some hipster, he's Japanese Hawaiian so he plays the ukulele the same reason Burns plays the digeridoo and Lys plays the kangaroo cock or whatever.
GS is in the same boat, he plays the banjo because he is actually an inbred from the Appalachian foothills.
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
LOL
You are already late by like 3 years. I've been reading threads on steampunk forums since 2004 in which people discuss, argue and curse each other out for not being really real fr srs steampunks and only posers.
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Mary Shelley or GTFO.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 11:08:29 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Mary Shelley or GTFO.
She wrote gothic novels, not sci-fi.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Mary Shelley or GTFO.
She wrote gothic novels, not sci-fi.
Incorrect.
Frankenstien was the first science fiction novel (technology and it's ramifications on morality), and
The Last Man was PURE science fiction.
Bram Stoker wrote Gothic novels. Mary Shelley invented science fiction.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 01, 2010, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 01, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 01, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
Quote from: Doktor Howl on October 01, 2010, 11:39:22 PM
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
I've always viewed steampunk as a setting with technology equivalent to late 19th century but devices that rivaled or surpassed modern ones. So, isn't 19th and early 20th century scifi is the very definition of steampunk?
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
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Quote from: Lady Nyx on October 01, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
I've always viewed steampunk as a setting with technology equivalent to late 19th century but devices that rivaled or surpassed modern ones. So, isn't 19th and early 20th century scifi is the very definition of steampunk?
There is no definitive answer, but I like to describe Steampunk as a modern fashion and sub-cultural movement that mimics the science fiction written in the late Victorian and Edwardian periods. But you can take and apply that tech to ANY period as well. My friends are trying to get me to do a Steampunk Columbina, using a Renaissance fashion, but doing clockwork gears and machinery on it, like I'd be a windup doll of some sort. I also have a friend who does "Bamboopunk", basically Chinese from the same period, with the technological twist.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
Dok Howl is right...what IS happening to PD?!
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
Sorry. :cry:
I am too lazy to go dig up the reasoning behind my stance at this point in time.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: Lady Nyx on October 01, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
I've always viewed steampunk as a setting with technology equivalent to late 19th century but devices that rivaled or surpassed modern ones. So, isn't 19th and early 20th century scifi is the very definition of steampunk?
There is no definitive answer, but I like to describe Steampunk as a modern fashion and sub-cultural movement that mimics the science fiction written in the late Victorian and Edwardian periods. But you can take and apply that tech to ANY period as well. My friends are trying to get me to do a Steampunk Columbina, using a Renaissance fashion, but doing clockwork gears and machinery on it, like I'd be a windup doll of some sort. I also have a friend who does "Bamboopunk", basically Chinese from the same period, with the technological twist.
oh and dieselpunk and atompunk :kingmeh:
Which are just mid-20th cen pulp.
Also.
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs707.snc4/62768_500214116392_579041392_7317917_7578487_n.jpg)
I'm not though. That is just how I feel about most steampunks.
I love the 20s and 30s, but I won't "punk" them. I'm actually tickled that the fashions are coming back, it's going to make it easier for me to find proper fabrics and wave lotion. I think women could benefit from the resurgence of true smart fashion.
Also: I'm a goddamn industry professional. DNT.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
NO YUO.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
Quote from: Sir Coyote on October 02, 2010, 12:35:38 AM
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 02, 2010, 12:39:24 AM
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
At least I don't need hedge clippers to groom myself.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
I DON'T FREQUENT THAT PLACE! I JUST GET STUCK GOING THERE WHEN PEOPLE I KNOW PLAY...OR WHEN IT'S POURING RAIN AND I WANT LUNCH AND I'M TOO LAZY TO WALK MORE THAN ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAMPUS.
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
At least I don't need hedge clippers to groom myself.
:fap:
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Quote from: Doktor Princess on October 01, 2010, 11:07:32 PM
Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
I DON'T FREQUENT THAT PLACE! I JUST GET STUCK GOING THERE WHEN PEOPLE I KNOW PLAY...OR WHEN IT'S POURING RAIN AND I WANT LUNCH AND I'M TOO LAZY TO WALK MORE THAN ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAMPUS.
SO YOU SAY.
I think you like the decor.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
I DON'T FREQUENT THAT PLACE! I JUST GET STUCK GOING THERE WHEN PEOPLE I KNOW PLAY...OR WHEN IT'S POURING RAIN AND I WANT LUNCH AND I'M TOO LAZY TO WALK MORE THAN ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAMPUS.
SO YOU SAY.
I think you like the decor.
Actually, it's true. I do...I just hate the fucking people that GO there. The Hipsters ruined a perfectly good coffee shop with their tight jeans, Narragansett tall boys and Americana rock.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
WTF? That was the golden age of steam.
I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
:lulz:
You're pissing me off. Shut the fuck up.
What are YOU talking about, you...you...YOU FREQUENTER OF HIPSTER DIVES?
I DON'T FREQUENT THAT PLACE! I JUST GET STUCK GOING THERE WHEN PEOPLE I KNOW PLAY...OR WHEN IT'S POURING RAIN AND I WANT LUNCH AND I'M TOO LAZY TO WALK MORE THAN ACROSS THE STREET FROM CAMPUS.
SO YOU SAY.
I think you like the decor.
Actually, it's true. I do...I just hate the fucking people that GO there. The Hipsters ruined a perfectly good coffee shop with their tight jeans, Narragansett tall boys and Americana rock.
:vom:
That's "early Abba".
Nothing a little spray paint can't fix...
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Nothing a little spray paint can't fix...
Napalm would work better.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
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Nothing a little spray paint can't fix...
Napalm would work better.
Napalm sticks to hipsters
It sticks to their bellies
and it sticks to their rib-sters
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
OI! How the fuck am I supposed to bellow obscene shit into your voicemail if it isn't accepting calls?
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
OI! How the fuck am I supposed to bellow obscene shit into your voicemail if it isn't accepting calls?
Ah, yes. I'll PM you when that's resolved. At the moment though it's not a high priority.
For the benefit of you having the opportunity to shout at my phone, I'll bump it up a couple of spaces.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
OI! How the fuck am I supposed to bellow obscene shit into your voicemail if it isn't accepting calls?
Ah, yes. I'll PM you when that's resolved. At the moment though it's not a high priority.
For the benefit of you having the opportunity to shout at my phone, I'll bump it up a couple of spaces.
I'll have you know that I felt very inconvenienced.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
I'll work on returning the convenience to you.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
OI! How the fuck am I supposed to bellow obscene shit into your voicemail if it isn't accepting calls?
Ah, yes. I'll PM you when that's resolved. At the moment though it's not a high priority.
For the benefit of you having the opportunity to shout at my phone, I'll bump it up a couple of spaces.
I'll have you know that I felt very inconvenienced.
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Jules Verne and H.G. Wells were the first steampunks. Everyone else is a goddamn poser.
Negatory ghostrider. Well, Verne and Shelly heavily influenced steampunk but are not steampunk.
Ever read the vivification scene in Frankenstien?
I have. It's just that 19th and early 20st century science fiction should not be considered steampunk, as it is a modern genre that evokes imagery from the industrial revolution, and of the early science fiction of that period.
Right, and the Irish are Celtic.
Yes, they are, just like the Romans. :)
<3!
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That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
FUCK YOU MY MOM DIED OF HIPSTER DYSPLACIA!!
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That may be so, however your logic dictates that only a hipster can recognize another hipster. By your logic, you would be unable to know that I have a beard.
Or that if you pass by a furry convention, you wouldn't know that they were furries.
....um. No. Unless you are positing that if it takes a hipster to know a hipster, therefore only like can recognize like applies universally to everything.
How are you at math? Not so good? :lulz:
Dok- Majoring in History at the moment, but Celtic studies are an option for later.
I'm just pointing out the flaw in reasoning that it takes a hipster to know a hipster.
Nono, It takes a hipster who does not recognize himself/herself as one to know a hipster.
So, hipsters who are aware that they are hipsters are unable to spot a hipster?
FUCK YOU MY MOM DIED OF HIPSTER DYSPLACIA!!
YA BECAUSE I GAVE IT TO HARD LIKE SHE WANTED IT.
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I am now going to stop, reconsider my position, and probably find some other way to make myself look retarded, instead of using bad arguments to support my position.
Your unwillingness to tenaciously, viciously defend an indefensible position at all costs, including that of your dignity and relationships with others on the forum, disappoints me. :cry:
We've really lost our collective grip, haven't we?
Remember the good old days, when we'd have a 100 page fight over nothing?
Suck it you humorless old yeti.
YetiPunk is in fact very boring. They spend the first few chapters making iPods out of snow, and then it basically turns into Dawson's Creek.
THE SCIENCE OF HIPSTERISM, EXPLAINED!
http://lesswrong.com/lw/2pv/intellectual_hipsters_and_metacontrarianism/
QuoteScience has inexplicably failed to come up with a precise definition of "hipster", but from my limited understanding a hipster is a person who deliberately uses unpopular, obsolete, or obscure styles and preferences in an attempt to be "cooler" than the mainstream. But why would being deliberately uncool be cooler than being cool?
As previously discussed, in certain situations refusing to signal can be a sign of high status. Thorstein Veblen invented the term "conspicuous consumption" to refer to the showy spending habits of the nouveau riche, who unlike the established money of his day took great pains to signal their wealth by buying fast cars, expensive clothes, and shiny jewelery. Why was such flashiness common among new money but not old? Because the old money was so secure in their position that it never even occurred to them that they might be confused with poor people, whereas new money, with their lack of aristocratic breeding, worried they might be mistaken for poor people if they didn't make it blatantly obvious that they had expensive things.
The old money might have started off not buying flashy things for pragmatic reasons - they didn't need to, so why waste the money? But if F. Scott Fitzgerald is to be believed, the old money actively cultivated an air of superiority to the nouveau riche and their conspicuous consumption; not buying flashy objects becomes a matter of principle. This makes sense: the nouveau riche need to differentiate themselves from the poor, but the old money need to differentiate themselves from the nouveau riche.
This process is called countersignaling, and one can find its telltale patterns in many walks of life. Those who study human romantic attraction warn men not to "come on too strong", and this has similarities to the nouveau riche example. A total loser might come up to a woman without a hint of romance, promise her nothing, and demand sex. A more sophisticated man might buy roses for a woman, write her love poetry, hover on her every wish, et cetera; this signifies that he is not a total loser. But the most desirable men may deliberately avoid doing nice things for women in an attempt to signal they are so high status that they don't need to. The average man tries to differentiate himself from the total loser by being nice; the extremely attractive man tries to differentiate himself from the average man by not being especially nice.
In all three examples, people at the top of the pyramid end up displaying characteristics similar to those at the bottom. Hipsters deliberately wear the same clothes uncool people wear. Families with old money don't wear much more jewelry than the middle class. And very attractive men approach women with the same lack of subtlety a total loser would use.1
If politics, philosophy, and religion are really about signaling, we should expect to find countersignaling there as well.
Pretending To Be Wise
Let's go back to Less Wrong's long-running discussion on death. Ask any five year old child, and ey can tell you that death is bad. Death is bad because it kills you. There is nothing subtle about it, and there does not need to be. Death universally seems bad to pretty much everyone on first analysis, and what it seems, it is.
But as has been pointed out, along with the gigantic cost, death does have a few small benefits. It lowers overpopulation, it allows the new generation to develop free from interference by their elders, it provides motivation to get things done quickly. Precisely because these benefits are so much smaller than the cost, they are hard to notice. It takes a particularly subtle and clever mind to think them up. Any idiot can tell you why death is bad, but it takes a very particular sort of idiot to believe that death might be good.
So pointing out this contrarian position, that death has some benefits, is potentially a signal of high intelligence. It is not a very reliable signal, because once the first person brings it up everyone can just copy it, but it is a cheap signal. And to the sort of person who might not be clever enough to come up with the benefits of death themselves, and only notices that wise people seem to mention death can have benefits, it might seem super extra wise to say death has lots and lots of great benefits, and is really quite a good thing, and if other people should protest that death is bad, well, that's an opinion a five year old child could come up with, and so clearly that person is no smarter than a five year old child. Thus Eliezer's title for this mentality, "Pretending To Be Wise".
If dwelling on the benefits of a great evil is not your thing, you can also pretend to be wise by dwelling on the costs of a great good. All things considered, modern industrial civilization - with its advanced technology, its high standard of living, and its lack of typhoid fever - is pretty neat. But modern industrial civilization also has many costs: alienation from nature, strains on the traditional family, the anonymity of big city life, pollution and overcrowding. These are real costs, and they are certainly worth taking seriously; nevertheless, the crowds of emigrants trying to get from the Third World to the First, and the lack of any crowd in the opposite direction, suggest the benefits outweigh the costs. But in my estimation - and speak up if you disagree - people spend a lot more time dwelling on the negatives than on the positives, and most people I meet coming back from a Third World country have to talk about how much more authentic their way of life is and how much we could learn from them. This sort of talk sounds Wise, whereas talk about how nice it is to have buses that don't break down every half mile sounds trivial and selfish..
So my hypothesis is that if a certain side of an issue has very obvious points in support of it, and the other side of an issue relies on much more subtle points that the average person might not be expected to grasp, then adopting the second side of the issue will become a signal for intelligence, even if that side of the argument is wrong.
This only works in issues which are so muddled to begin with that there is no fact of the matter, or where the fact of the matter is difficult to tease out: so no one tries to signal intelligence by saying that 1+1 equals 3 (although it would not surprise me to find a philosopher who says truth is relative and this equation is a legitimate form of discourse).
Meta-Contrarians Are Intellectual Hipsters
A person who is somewhat upper-class will conspicuously signal eir wealth by buying difficult-to-obtain goods. A person who is very upper-class will conspicuously signal that ey feels no need to conspicuously signal eir wealth, by deliberately not buying difficult-to-obtain goods.
A person who is somewhat intelligent will conspicuously signal eir intelligence by holding difficult-to-understand opinions. A person who is very intelligent will conspicuously signal that ey feels no need to conspicuously signal eir intelligence, by deliberately not holding difficult-to-understand opinions.
According to the survey, the average IQ on this site is around 1452. People on this site differ from the mainstream in that they are more willing to say death is bad, more willing to say that science, capitalism, and the like are good, and less willing to say that there's some deep philosophical sense in which 1+1 = 3. That suggests people around that level of intelligence have reached the point where they no longer feel it necessary to differentiate themselves from the sort of people who aren't smart enough to understand that there might be side benefits to death. Instead, they are at the level where they want to differentiate themselves from the somewhat smarter people who think the side benefits to death are great. They are, basically, meta-contrarians, who counter-signal by holding opinions contrary to those of the contrarians' signals. And in the case of death, this cannot but be a good thing.
But just as contrarians risk becoming too contrary, moving from "actually, death has a few side benefits" to "DEATH IS GREAT!", meta-contrarians are at risk of becoming too meta-contrary.
All the possible examples here are controversial, so I will just take the least controversial one I can think of and beg forgiveness. A naive person might think that industrial production is an absolute good thing. Someone smarter than that naive person might realize that global warming is a strong negative to industrial production and desperately needs to be stopped. Someone even smarter than that, to differentiate emself from the second person, might decide global warming wasn't such a big deal after all, or doesn't exist, or isn't man-made.
In this case, the contrarian position happened to be right (well, maybe), and the third person's meta-contrariness took em further from the truth. I do feel like there are more global warming skeptics among what Eliezer called "the atheist/libertarian/technophile/sf-fan/early-adopter/programmer empirical cluster in personspace" than among, say, college professors.
In fact, very often, the uneducated position of the five year old child may be deeply flawed and the contrarian position a necessary correction to those flaws. This makes meta-contrarianism a very dangerous business.
Remember, most everyone hates hipsters.
Without meaning to imply anything about whether or not any of these positions are correct or not3, the following triads come to mind as connected to an uneducated/contrarian/meta-contrarian divide:
- KKK-style racist / politically correct liberal / "but there are scientifically proven genetic differences"
- misogyny / women's rights movement / men's rights movement
- conservative / liberal / libertarian4
- herbal-spiritual-alternative medicine / conventional medicine / Robin Hanson
- don't care about Africa / give aid to Africa / don't give aid to Africa
- Obama is Muslim / Obama is obviously not Muslim, you idiot / Patri Friedman5
What is interesting about these triads is not that people hold the positions (which could be expected by chance) but that people get deep personal satisfaction from arguing the positions even when their arguments are unlikely to change policy6 - and that people identify with these positions to the point where arguments about them can become personal.
If meta-contrarianism is a real tendency in over-intelligent people, it doesn't mean they should immediately abandon their beliefs; that would just be meta-meta-contrarianism. It means that they need to recognize the meta-contrarian tendency within themselves and so be extra suspicious and careful about a desire to believe something contrary to the prevailing contrarian wisdom, especially if they really enjoy doing so.
Footnotes
1) But what's really interesting here is that people at each level of the pyramid don't just follow the customs of their level. They enjoy following the customs, it makes them feel good to talk about how they follow the customs, and they devote quite a bit of energy to insulting the people on the other levels. For example, old money call the nouveau riche "crass", and men who don't need to pursue women call those who do "chumps". Whenever holding a position makes you feel superior and is fun to talk about, that's a good sign that the position is not just practical, but signaling related.
2) There is no need to point out just how unlikely it is that such a number is correct, nor how unscientific the survey was.
3) One more time: the fact that those beliefs are in an order does not mean some of them are good and others are bad. For example, "5 year old child / pro-death / transhumanist" is a triad, and "warming denier / warming believer / warming skeptic" is a triad, but I personally support 1+3 in the first triad and 2 in the second. You can't evaluate the truth of a statement by its position in a signaling game; otherwise you could use human psychology to figure out if global warming is real!
4) This is my solution to the eternal question of why libertarians are always more hostile toward liberals, even though they have just about as many points of real disagreement with the conservatives.
5) To be fair to Patri, he admitted that those two posts were "trolling", but I think the fact that he derived so much enjoyment from trolling in that particular way is significant.
6) Worth a footnote: I think in a lot of issues, the original uneducated position has disappeared, or been relegated to a few rednecks in some remote corner of the world, and so meta-contrarians simply look like contrarians. I think it's important to keep the terminology, because most contrarians retain a psychology of feeling like they are being contrarian, even after they are the new norm. But my only evidence for this is introspection, so it might be false
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Now thats a hell of a lot of effort expended just to make fun of hipsters!
That was fucking awesome!
Being a Dickhead's Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I&has_verified=1
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Being a Dickhead's Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I&has_verified=1
Is there a hurdy-gurdy in it? I refuse to watch it again, as my kids have watched it approximately 44,933 times already.
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Being a Dickhead's Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I&has_verified=1
Is there a hurdy-gurdy in it? I refuse to watch it again, as my kids have watched it approximately 44,933 times already.
Watch this shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKnSGn914M&feature=related Not a hurdy gurdy.
That vid will make you a murderer.
"I FELT SICK WHEN I REALIZED I WAS TYPING IN ARIAL!"
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Quote from: Cramulus on October 05, 2010, 04:38:00 PM
Being a Dickhead's Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVmmYMwFj1I&has_verified=1
Is there a hurdy-gurdy in it? I refuse to watch it again, as my kids have watched it approximately 44,933 times already.
Watch this shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eKnSGn914M&feature=related Not a hurdy gurdy.
That vid will make you a murderer.
"I FELT SICK WHEN I REALIZED I WAS TYPING IN ARIAL!"
AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
And then Sigmatic was a murderer.
You know who else loved the hurdy-gurdy? Dark Age Europeans. Meaning most of us are descended from hipsters.
You know who else besides that loved the hurdy-gurdy? Persians. Meaning we will soon have suicide bombing videos which will say "I was into Osama Bin Laden, before he became big and sold out" and "I bet you haven't heard of Allah, he's like, really obscure".
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Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 01:08:20 PM
You know who else loved the hurdy-gurdy? Dark Age Europeans. Meaning most of us are descended from hipsters.
You know who else besides that loved the hurdy-gurdy? Persians. Meaning we will soon have suicide bombing videos which will say "I was into Osama Bin Laden, before he became big and sold out" and "I bet you haven't heard of Allah, he's like, really obscure".
"Being a Goth is soooo passe. I like to consider myself an Allemani. Though I really identify with the Sassanid Persians, because I feel I understand their motives for Western expansion. I mean, the Romans are totally mainstream, and they will NEVER 'get' me."
Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 01:08:20 PM
You know who else loved the hurdy-gurdy? Dark Age Europeans. Meaning most of us are descended from hipsters.
You know who else besides that loved the hurdy-gurdy? Persians. Meaning we will soon have suicide bombing videos which will say "I was into Osama Bin Laden, before he became big and sold out" and "I bet you haven't heard of Allah, he's like, really obscure".
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Quote from: Cain on October 15, 2010, 01:08:20 PM
You know who else loved the hurdy-gurdy? Dark Age Europeans. Meaning most of us are descended from hipsters.
You know who else besides that loved the hurdy-gurdy? Persians. Meaning we will soon have suicide bombing videos which will say "I was into Osama Bin Laden, before he became big and sold out" and "I bet you haven't heard of Allah, he's like, really obscure".
You have seen the future!
(xpost for great relevance)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3255/hipstercard.jpg)
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Quote from: Triple Zero on October 20, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
(xpost for great relevance)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3255/hipstercard.jpg)
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I want to print those and hand them out! Ofuck!
Quote from: Triple Zero on October 20, 2010, 12:50:00 PM
(xpost for great relevance)
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3255/hipstercard.jpg)
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Do you have a pdf of that?
No, I just image-searched "pope card" and shooped the low-res version. Be my guest, though :)
Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2010, 04:52:24 PM
watch for this happening to steampunk in the next 2-3 years.
Any minute now you're going to be party to a conversation about how I used to be steampunk before it was popular. I'm an authentic steam punk.
Already heard it.
Was more in the form of "I knew about it before..." than "I
was a steampunk before...", though.
Henry Rollins haets hipsters
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/henry_rollins_vs_hipsters_the.html
Quote from: Subetai on November 10, 2010, 05:45:22 PM
Henry Rollins haets hipsters
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/henry_rollins_vs_hipsters_the.html
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Quote from: Subetai on November 10, 2010, 05:45:22 PM
Henry Rollins haets hipsters
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/henry_rollins_vs_hipsters_the.html
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Henry Rollins is a walking bag of insecurities. He needs therapy. So much therapy.
He should work out his problems via stand-up comedy.
His "Think Tank" CDs are actually funnier than many contemporary comedians out there.
Quote from: Nigel on November 10, 2010, 07:21:01 PM
Henry Rollins is a walking bag of insecurities. He needs therapy. So much therapy.
TROOF!
What a fucking douchebag fucknozzle. Ugh. I have a haet-on for celebs like him. Don't go out in public if you can't handle, you know, PUBLIC.
I appreciate his talent, he's a great raconteur. And I think he'd do well in stand up, combining that with his star power. But he should really keep the "I'm an aging insecure punk star" ennui under wraps.
meanwhile, a good rant from Henry Rollins:
on "selling out"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6zVUvmkyvA
(http://sydneypadua.com/2dgoggles/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/organist3_0011.jpg)
http://sydneypadua.com/2dgoggles/the-organist-pt-3/
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