What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
Many of us here wonder the exact same thing.
I think the main concept was to emphasise disorder instead of order because it went against the grain of what was generally emphasised in religion.
I can understand that. It's a kind of bringing balance to the force kind of thing.
I believe balance is an illusion. Reality tends to extremes. Nevertheless, I agree that the focus purely on disorder is somewhat disappointing, and may not happen if more Discordians were acquainted with Guy Debord:
Quote from: Guy Debord"VICTORY WILL BE FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE DISORDER WITHOUT LOVING IT"
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
Painting with broad strokes are you.
Some of us believe chaos is the natural state of the universe and society and believe that it is only through illumination that one world order can come about.
Quote from: Cain on February 17, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
I believe balance is an illusion. Reality tends to extremes. Nevertheless, I agree that the focus purely on disorder is somewhat disappointing, and may not happen if more Discordians were acquainted with Guy Debord:
Quote from: Guy Debord"VICTORY WILL BE FOR THOSE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO CREATE DISORDER WITHOUT LOVING IT"
Where would you suggest I start if I wanted to read some Debord?
Quote from: Faust on February 17, 2012, 09:48:35 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
Painting with broad strokes are you.
Some of us believe chaos is the natural state of the universe and society and believe that it is only through illumination that one world order can come about.
That's too true, they were broad strokes. I usually find that broad strokes are a good place to start these sorts of things, especially if you haven't seen the whole picture yet. The discussion helps fine tune the detail. (Go team metaphor!)
http://www.cddc.vt.edu/sionline/si/situ.html is a good start.
I think a lot of it is that we're currently living in an environment with an overabundance of destructive order. It's very difficult to make room for creative order with all the destructive order around, and the only way to clear that out is with some destructive disorder. The other option available to us is creative disorder, so either way if your goal is to make the world a more fun place for your game, disorder is on the table.
There is also a lot of cultural stigma against disorder, so the fact that our religi-joke-sophy embraces it even in part means that's the primary difference between discordianism and everything else, so that's what it's judged by.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
We live in Ordered times
Disorder will lead us hand in hand in Aftermath
but the Discordian preference for Disorder is based on living in the season of Bureaucracy
If we lived in total anarchy, running around shirtless, screaming, stabbing each other with pointy sticks, the Discordians would be building bridges and governments.
the Principia suggests that if you're going to pick a side, pick creative over destructive, and humor over seriousness. But don't get too anal about it - they're all just tools for different situations.
(http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i312/P3nT4gR4m/Realitygrid.jpg)
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
I think it would be more accurate to posit that
some Discordians are obsessed with disorder over order. I think those would tend to be your immature newbies who are into it for the "wrong" reasons. I think an individual who had a more in-depth association with the philosophies of Discordia would tend to not make too much of a fuss over order/disorder and instead, as others have mentioned, look more towards the balance of creative/destructive.
It is easy to come to a hasty conclusions that you need to combat the straightjacket order that comes from governments with disorder. But that can easily go awry, especially if you are using some kind of destructive disorder that creates collateral damage. Your cause will be in rough shape if you end up getting the public against you as well.
On a more personal level, I tend to think creative order can have an important place in a person's life. Music as a vehicle for expression is a good example. Because, music really is a form of creative order. Organizing notes and tones and rhythms in a certain pattern to manifest a piece of music. This can be used to convey information, to rally people, or, to bring piece to the composer/performer.
The thing with creative order, I think, is that it is maybe a little harder, or a little less apparent a tool compared to destructive disorder. Which is probably, again, why people new to the philosophy and into it for more superficial reasons, might instantly gravitate to that end.
Two things you might like reading:
The New Chart:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,5054.30/msg,495986.html
And, the Chao te Ching
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder?
What the fuck are you jabbering about?
Quote from: Cramulus on February 17, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
We live in Ordered times
Disorder will lead us hand in hand in Aftermath
but the Discordian preference for Disorder is based on living in the season of Bureaucracy
If we lived in total anarchy, running around shirtless, screaming, stabbing each other with pointy sticks, the Discordians would be building bridges and governments.
the Principia suggests that if you're going to pick a side, pick creative over destructive, and humor over seriousness. But don't get too anal about it - they're all just tools for different situations.
This thread is one of those wonderful situations where I'm happy to be completely wrong.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 17, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
I think it would be more accurate to posit that some Discordians are obsessed with disorder over order. I think those would tend to be your immature newbies who are into it for the "wrong" reasons. I think an individual who had a more in-depth association with the philosophies of Discordia would tend to not make too much of a fuss over order/disorder and instead, as others have mentioned, look more towards the balance of creative/destructive.
It is easy to come to a hasty conclusions that you need to combat the straightjacket order that comes from governments with disorder. But that can easily go awry, especially if you are using some kind of destructive disorder that creates collateral damage. Your cause will be in rough shape if you end up getting the public against you as well.
On a more personal level, I tend to think creative order can have an important place in a person's life. Music as a vehicle for expression is a good example. Because, music really is a form of creative order. Organizing notes and tones and rhythms in a certain pattern to manifest a piece of music. This can be used to convey information, to rally people, or, to bring piece to the composer/performer.
The thing with creative order, I think, is that it is maybe a little harder, or a little less apparent a tool compared to destructive disorder. Which is probably, again, why people new to the philosophy and into it for more superficial reasons, might instantly gravitate to that end.
I think I've had more experience with those who were in it in for the wrong reasons. You guys are a breath of fresh air :)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 17, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
Two things you might like reading:
The New Chart:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,5054.30/msg,495986.html
And, the Chao te Ching
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching
The New Chart is fantastic; very clear. I may have posterise. I'm really keen to read the Chao te Ching, but would love a physical copy. Do they post down under?
Kinda like some facebook discordians? Oh man. Yeah- theyre basically cabbages disguised as discordians. Try explaining that to them though. Theyre less about the implications of discordia and more about the excuse to act retarded or so it seems.
That's exactly it, Twid.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 18, 2012, 07:07:31 AM
That's exactly it, Billy!
No, it's about us. Says so right in the fucking title, you little tit.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 18, 2012, 02:08:50 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 17, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
We live in Ordered times
Disorder will lead us hand in hand in Aftermath
but the Discordian preference for Disorder is based on living in the season of Bureaucracy
If we lived in total anarchy, running around shirtless, screaming, stabbing each other with pointy sticks, the Discordians would be building bridges and governments.
the Principia suggests that if you're going to pick a side, pick creative over destructive, and humor over seriousness. But don't get too anal about it - they're all just tools for different situations.
This thread is one of those wonderful situations where I'm happy to be completely wrong. Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 17, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
I think it would be more accurate to posit that some Discordians are obsessed with disorder over order. I think those would tend to be your immature newbies who are into it for the "wrong" reasons. I think an individual who had a more in-depth association with the philosophies of Discordia would tend to not make too much of a fuss over order/disorder and instead, as others have mentioned, look more towards the balance of creative/destructive.
It is easy to come to a hasty conclusions that you need to combat the straightjacket order that comes from governments with disorder. But that can easily go awry, especially if you are using some kind of destructive disorder that creates collateral damage. Your cause will be in rough shape if you end up getting the public against you as well.
On a more personal level, I tend to think creative order can have an important place in a person's life. Music as a vehicle for expression is a good example. Because, music really is a form of creative order. Organizing notes and tones and rhythms in a certain pattern to manifest a piece of music. This can be used to convey information, to rally people, or, to bring piece to the composer/performer.
The thing with creative order, I think, is that it is maybe a little harder, or a little less apparent a tool compared to destructive disorder. Which is probably, again, why people new to the philosophy and into it for more superficial reasons, might instantly gravitate to that end.
I think I've had more experience with those who were in it in for the wrong reasons. You guys are a breath of fresh air :)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 17, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
Two things you might like reading:
The New Chart:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,5054.30/msg,495986.html
And, the Chao te Ching
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching
The New Chart is fantastic; very clear. I may have posterise. I'm really keen to read the Chao te Ching, but would love a physical copy. Do they post down under?
Roger please note my comments here, especially the one where I state how happy I was that my original rant was wrong. If it also pleases add to the part where I said you were all a breath of fresh air "except Roger, as he seem hell bent on being horrible to me, presumably for something that was a miscommunication which I repeatedly apologised for".
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 18, 2012, 02:19:51 AM
Kinda like some facebook discordians? Oh man. Yeah- theyre basically cabbages disguised as discordians. Try explaining that to them though. Theyre less about the implications of discordia and more about the excuse to act retarded or so it seems.
Yeah, they're doing it wrong, we're more about the implications of acting retarded for the preservation of excuses that suppress the levity of Discord. Or something.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 19, 2012, 08:59:05 AM
Roger please note my comments here, especially the one where I state how happy I was that my original rant was wrong. If it also pleases add to the part where I said you were all a breath of fresh air "except Roger, as he seem hell bent on being horrible to me, presumably for something that was a miscommunication which I repeatedly apologised for".
1. You haven't apologized. You have said that you are "sorry for the way I took it", which is different. Nor was it a "miscommunication".
2. You wrote the OP of this thread without knowing a FUCKING THING about us, without - it seems - even LOOKING AROUND. Do you often stereotype people based on characteristics that you have pulled out of your own ass? CONGRATULATIONS, YOU'RE ANOTHER LESTER MADDOX, with a different target.
3. I am always horrible. I'm like a remorrah eel of horrible shit, and I always find some asshole to attach to. You're it. Smile.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 19, 2012, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 18, 2012, 02:08:50 AM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 17, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
We live in Ordered times
Disorder will lead us hand in hand in Aftermath
but the Discordian preference for Disorder is based on living in the season of Bureaucracy
If we lived in total anarchy, running around shirtless, screaming, stabbing each other with pointy sticks, the Discordians would be building bridges and governments.
the Principia suggests that if you're going to pick a side, pick creative over destructive, and humor over seriousness. But don't get too anal about it - they're all just tools for different situations.
This thread is one of those wonderful situations where I'm happy to be completely wrong. Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 17, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 05:54:09 AM
What is with the Discordian obsession with disorder? My understanding is that the sacred chao shows that order and disorder, though both illusions are equal. They are both made of chaos and you can see this in action when a politician or other vogon makes a stupid decision.
This came out much more seriously than intended :S
I think it would be more accurate to posit that some Discordians are obsessed with disorder over order. I think those would tend to be your immature newbies who are into it for the "wrong" reasons. I think an individual who had a more in-depth association with the philosophies of Discordia would tend to not make too much of a fuss over order/disorder and instead, as others have mentioned, look more towards the balance of creative/destructive.
It is easy to come to a hasty conclusions that you need to combat the straightjacket order that comes from governments with disorder. But that can easily go awry, especially if you are using some kind of destructive disorder that creates collateral damage. Your cause will be in rough shape if you end up getting the public against you as well.
On a more personal level, I tend to think creative order can have an important place in a person's life. Music as a vehicle for expression is a good example. Because, music really is a form of creative order. Organizing notes and tones and rhythms in a certain pattern to manifest a piece of music. This can be used to convey information, to rally people, or, to bring piece to the composer/performer.
The thing with creative order, I think, is that it is maybe a little harder, or a little less apparent a tool compared to destructive disorder. Which is probably, again, why people new to the philosophy and into it for more superficial reasons, might instantly gravitate to that end.
I think I've had more experience with those who were in it in for the wrong reasons. You guys are a breath of fresh air :)
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 17, 2012, 03:42:41 PM
Two things you might like reading:
The New Chart:
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php/topic,5054.30/msg,495986.html
And, the Chao te Ching
http://www.principiadiscordia.com/cramulus/index.php?title=Sacred_Chao_Te_Ching
The New Chart is fantastic; very clear. I may have posterise. I'm really keen to read the Chao te Ching, but would love a physical copy. Do they post down under?
Roger please note my comments here, especially the one where I state how happy I was that my original rant was wrong. If it also pleases add to the part where I said you were all a breath of fresh air "except Roger, as he seem hell bent on being horrible to me, presumably for something that was a miscommunication which I repeatedly apologised for".
Actually, you were a dick and the rest of us are giving you way more leeway than you've earned, while privately discussing the odds that you're an Aspie. That leeway isn't going to last much longer if you keep it up. Just an FYI.
Insulting people you don't know and making assumptions about people in a community you haven't explored are hardly ways to win friends, and you might be about to find out what it's like when are dicks back at you.
For the record, an apology is "I'm sorry I said that dickish thing", not "I'm sorry you took what I said as dickish". The former accepts responsibility, the latter displaces is.
Also, "I called you a stupid bitch, but I'm glad to see I was wrong" is not an apology. "I was wrong for calling you a stupid bitch; I've learned a lesson, I'm sorry, and I won't do it again" is an apology.
You've pulled this shit twice now, and haven't apologized either time. Just how many chances to be a dick do you think you deserve?
:lulz:
(http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/HawkShadowsoul/sad.jpg)
Quote from: Nigel on February 19, 2012, 05:53:27 PM
Also, "I called you a stupid bitch, but I'm glad to see I was wrong" is not an apology. "I was wrong for calling you a stupid bitch; I've learned a lesson, I'm sorry, and I won't do it again" is an apology.
You've pulled this shit twice now, and haven't apologized either time. Just how many chances to be a dick do you think you deserve?
I've put up an apology thread in apple talk.
It felt clear to me that 'you' in this context was meant to point out that it was about discordians, not PD. That's just me.
Not just you. I got the same thing out of it.
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
I don't see anything wrong with this thread.
Just because some of you pacifist fucks have less hair-trigger rage than the rest of us doesn't make us WRONG. At least, not subjectively speaking, from my point of view.
:argh!:
Quote from: Nigel on February 20, 2012, 08:29:43 AM
Just because some of you pacifist fucks have less hair-trigger rage than the rest of us doesn't make us WRONG. At least, not subjectively speaking, from my point of view.
:argh!:
Whoops forgot to de-eprime my post.
There is nothing wrong with this thread.
Quote from: Nigel on February 20, 2012, 08:29:43 AM
Just because some of you pacifist fucks have less hair-trigger rage than the rest of us doesn't make us WRONG. At least, not subjectively speaking, from my point of view.
:argh!:
:spittake:
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 18, 2012, 02:19:51 AM
Kinda like some facebook discordians? Oh man. Yeah- theyre basically cabbages disguised as discordians. Try explaining that to them though. Theyre less about the implications of discordia and more about the excuse to act retarded or so it seems.
I think you got it backwards. The excuse to act retarded? that sounds more like "enlightenment" every day. The implications of discordia? total wankfest
Discordians looking retarded to each other? What a shock!
I AM A RETARD. At least some of the time. In fact, everyone of you - everyone on this planet, as a matter of fact - is retarded to some degree, at least part of the time. The trick is to be retarded the least amount of time possible.
THINGS THAT MAKE ME A RETARD:
1. Women.
2. Women.
3. Bourbon.
4. Boredom.
5. Me.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 03:42:53 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 03:38:54 PM
The trick is to be retarded the least amount of time possible.
FUCK
I've been striving for YEARS, and the best I can manage is about 30% non-retarded behavior. That's when I'm making an active effort.
I'm up to 70%. I thought the goal was 100!! :cry:
I am pretty sure that the Dunning/Kruger Effect applies, so the more retarded you actually are, the less retarded you think you are.
You know cram being zany and shit is all fun and games until you log on to facebook and have to go clear out 100 + invites to fake events and then spend the rest of the night blocking the people involved. Those assholes? Cabbages. I may be a wanker but you wont be able to convince me that those people are worth my time either as a discordian or anything else.
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
One's behavior tends to be 100% ritarded when wading in quicksand. - Old Chinese Pun
When your significant other calls you a retard in that case shes right regardless of genius :lulz:
i base my sense of cleverness off of other peoples feedback. Theres always going to be someone better even if it only lasts for a short while.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
I just love the idea of intercine fighting between Discordian groups. It's really very simple...If you don't get along with a Discordian group (FB, MS, whatever), don't go there. On the other hand, getting bent out of shape because of criticism over a Discordian group is kind of funny, too...Because it sounds like the FB group caters to a different type of Discordian than PD does. Some people may enjoy both, most people will probably prefer one to the other.
That being said, you're ALL a bunch of cunts. Only *I* know the One True Path of Discordianism. In this, I am like the Buddha. Which means at least one of you should have killed me by now. It's "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha", not "If you meet the Bhudda, let him linger on in frustration for 9 years and then never get around to finishing him off".
And I think we all need to be a hell of a lot more defensive about all this shit, because blindly lashing out at anyone who threatens our intellectual/ideological turf is what being a Discordian is all about.
Or...Well, you know.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
Can't see the pic...But it's because men are wired completely differently from women, so our behavior seems both alien and retarded. Also, when we see boobs, our brains drop into our necks. Or at least mine does.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
Yoink
motherfucker! I've typed out this post three times now. Okay, third time's a charm.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 04:37:13 PM
You know cram being zany and shit is all fun and games until you log on to facebook and have to go clear out 100 + invites to fake events and then spend the rest of the night blocking the people involved. Those assholes? Cabbages. I may be a wanker but you wont be able to convince me that those people are worth my time either as a discordian or anything else.
What you're saying is "I don't find them funny," which is 169% valid. But as soon as you start to say that they're bad discordians because the way they practice Discordia doesn't amuse YOU, you're riding one of those smug high horses which, I hate to tell you, is actually a cow.
Remember that in POEE, the hierarchy is reversed: the more involved you get with Eris, the lower in the hierarchy you sink. For the most part, the Popes of our religion have never even heard of Eris. They are the MOST free of Discordian orthodoxy and dogma. Who am I to tell THE POPE how to relate to his Gawdess? This is one of those traps that Mal and Omar built to sabotage anybody claiming to be a "real" Discordian.
There is no "really real Discordia", and if one emerges, I'm categorically against it.
http://discordia.wikia.com/wiki/Bad_Discordians
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 05:10:12 PM
There is no "really real Discordia", and if one emerges, I'm categorically against it.
Except for mine, of course. Because I am a SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE, and if anyone doesn't like it, I'll spazz out in my pance. Then you'll be sorry.
- Reverend Jim Jones- TGRR
I've been hanging out with you knobgobblers for years now, and I still have no idea what a "Discordian" is.
Well sure. But from where im sitting its not even a good troll. Its spam. It doesnt even strike me as pinealism. I accepted your invitation to the group because i thought it would be cool and branch out into communicating with discordians outside pd. Im still part of the group and occasionally look at it but i primarily use my fb for band promotion and secondarily for staying in touch with people. I may end up using it more frequently but right now its low on my list of priorities.
And note that in my original post i said some facebook discordians. I made it a point to say some so that it wouldnt be construed as a generalized statement.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 05:16:48 PM
I've been hanging out with you knobgobblers for years now, and I still have no idea what a "Discordian" is.
I've been doing this shit since the 80s, and I still don't know. I've been told all manner of brain-damaged & conflicting shit, but the one thing I DO know is that you can never trust anyone who tells you about their religion. ESPECIALLY the people who start that religion...So Thornely and Hill are RIGHT OUT as sources.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 05:18:13 PM
Well sure. But from where im sitting its not even a good troll. Its spam. It doesnt even strike me as pinealism.
It was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof. :p
If anything, it sure amused the hell out of
them. They're
still chortling over the amount of rage that 100+ event invites produced. They were like, "I'm soooo sorry I messed up your
facebook itinerary. Send us the doctor's bill." They LOVED being called "fake discordians" and "cabbages" because they strained some people's clicking fingers. It's the same exact thing as when a really real discordian comes here and tells how real discordians act. They ate it up and asked for more.
for the record, when this shit went down, I was mad as hell. I think I even blogged about it. It took a while before I realized I was acting like a cosmic shmuck.
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If you want to be serious,
don't take yourself seriously.
Be open to change,
and bold enough to be the butt of the joke.
When you walk with total certainty,
your head high
like a cosmic schmuck,
you are vulnerable to the old banana peel shtick.
When a schmuck slips,
their face becomes red with embarrassment.
Eris showed them what they did not perceive.
And, be honest, it was funny.
Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
That being said, you're ALL a bunch of cunts. Only *I* know the One True Path of Discordianism. In this, I am like the Buddha. Which means at least one of you should have killed me by now. It's "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha", not "If you meet the Bhudda, let him linger on in frustration for 9 years and then never get around to finishing him off".
Well, in my defense, the guru told me that poisoning your Wheaties through the sigils I was drawing on my cereal boxes would've taken effect by now.
I think I was robbed.
I knew I should've also used that tincture.
Twid, you and I could be better Discordians.
You know, we could make a handful of new FB accounts, go to the FB page, and spam everything we see.
Then we could PM laughter back and forth here, as people react to their threads being swamped.
Then we'd have claim to at least equalling THE BEST TROLLING EVER.
Hey maybe. But it doesnt exactly inspire me to work with them or think very highly of them. For the record- im not still annoyed - i may shake my head when i come across a stray one i didnt get rid of but it doesnt really cause an emotional reaction. It just makes me go "what the... Oh right. Click." my reaction itt thread was more due to your post than the event. Which is fine- i dont mind it if you fuckers get a rise out of me whether its warranted or not. It ends up being funnier that way anyhow and lets me more accurately find out what my buttons are.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 20, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
That being said, you're ALL a bunch of cunts. Only *I* know the One True Path of Discordianism. In this, I am like the Buddha. Which means at least one of you should have killed me by now. It's "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha", not "If you meet the Bhudda, let him linger on in frustration for 9 years and then never get around to finishing him off".
Well, in my defense, the guru told me that poisoning your Wheaties through the sigils I was drawing on my cereal boxes would've taken effect by now.
I think I was robbed.
I knew I should've also used that tincture.
Google images on "halligan tool". THAT is the kind of professionalism I expect.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
Hey maybe. But it doesnt exactly inspire me to work with them or think very highly of them. For the record- im not still annoyed - i may shake my head when i come across a stray one i didnt get rid of but it doesnt really cause an emotional reaction. It just makes me go "what the... Oh right. Click." my reaction itt thread was more due to your post than the event. Which is fine- i dont mind it if you fuckers get a rise out of me whether its warranted or not. It ends up being funnier that way anyhow and lets me more accurately find out what my buttons are.
Fuck that noise. We owe it to Glorious Old PD to try to at least equal their endeavors. Non-stop. Forever.
And then we can all laugh about it here, should we actually annoy anyone with incessant spamming.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:33:31 PM
Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Luckily I don't think trolling people on the Internet has
any bearing on whether or not you're a good Discordian. What a relief, right? I'd hate to think that nigel's hilarious "Add everybody you know to this FB group" FB group, or our goth poetry trolls, or any number of irritating pranks we've pulled over the years, makes us bad Discordians.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:33:31 PM
Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Luckily I don't think trolling people on the Internet has any bearing on whether or not you're a good Discordian. What a relief, right? I'd hate to think that nigel's hilarious "Add everybody you know to this FB group" FB group, or our goth poetry trolls, or any number of irritating pranks we've pulled over the years, makes us bad Discordians.
That's a relief, all right. Because after your earlier post about how funny they all thought it was to make Twid angry (I was with you until that point), I wish to be every bit as good at Discordianism as they are.
I can see crams point to a degree. But largely i still think it was a waste of everyones time and was energy that could have been used better elsewhere.
I mean- we generally ban people here for spamming and consider it a very lazy form of trolling right? I dont see how it would be different of fb but hey if it gets discordians calling other discordians cabbages then maybe it was successful if thats what their aim was. I dont know. Theyre not people i would risk talking to at this point since my fb serves another purpose than to have it blown up with spam.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 05:44:57 PM
I can see crams point to a degree. But largely i still think it was a waste of everyones time and was energy that could have been used better elsewhere.
I mean- we generally ban people here for spamming and consider it a very lazy form of trolling right? I dont see how it would be different of fb but hey if it gets discordians calling other discordians cabbages then maybe it was successful if thats what their aim was. I dont know. Theyre not people i would risk talking to at this point since my fb serves another purpose than to have it blown up with spam.
This is why I'm going to use a bunch of different accounts.
I mean, it's great to pointlessly fuck with other Discordians, and then laugh about it amongst ourselves when they get pissed...Or at least so I am told.
So I'm going to be the very best Discordian that I can be.
You know, I have this cellular phone service, right? And they have advertisements going for way better deals than the deal I have, but they always end the ads with "New customers only; current customers not eligible". This is because they already have me, so they can take me for granted. New business is not AS important as established customers, it is MORE important. In fact, it seems that I - as an existing customer - don't count at all.
I'm having that same feeling now.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:33:31 PM
Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Luckily I don't think trolling people on the Internet has any bearing on whether or not you're a good Discordian. What a relief, right? I'd hate to think that nigel's hilarious "Add everybody you know to this FB group" FB group, or our goth poetry trolls, or any number of irritating pranks we've pulled over the years, makes us bad Discordians.
That's a relief, all right. Because after your earlier post about how funny they all thought it was to make Twid angry (I was with you until that point), I wish to be every bit as good at Discordianism as they are.
I think you missed the point - I am not saying that good Discordians troll other Discordians.
I'm saying that Discordia has no "proper way to act", so we can't call them bad Discordians based on sending out some FB event invites.
Twid says that after all that noise, he doesn't think they're funny and he doesn't want to collaborate with them. This is a perfectly normal reaction and I have no problem with that. You don't need a religious high ground to dismiss them. Their being jerks is enough. Their relationship with Discordia doesn't even play into it.
I gotta admit- i cant see them finding it as funny if they were on the other side of it.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:33:31 PM
Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Luckily I don't think trolling people on the Internet has any bearing on whether or not you're a good Discordian. What a relief, right? I'd hate to think that nigel's hilarious "Add everybody you know to this FB group" FB group, or our goth poetry trolls, or any number of irritating pranks we've pulled over the years, makes us bad Discordians.
That's a relief, all right. Because after your earlier post about how funny they all thought it was to make Twid angry (I was with you until that point), I wish to be every bit as good at Discordianism as they are.
I think you missed the point - I am not saying that good Discordians troll other Discordians.
I'm saying that Discordia has no "proper way to act", so we can't call them bad Discordians based on sending out some FB event invites.
Twid says that after all that noise, he doesn't think they're funny and he doesn't want to collaborate with them. This is a perfectly normal reaction and I have no problem with that. You don't need a religious high ground to dismiss them. Their being jerks is enough. Their relationship with Discordia doesn't even play into it.
Okay, they fucked with Twid - who has never, IIRC, offered offense to anyone - until he left. Then they all had a good laugh at his expense. Then Twid is the bad guy for being angry about it.
I can adjust to this new morality. I mean, I've fucked with plenty of noobs when they came in posting like the OP, but I haven't spent much time fucking with noobs that come in acting in a civil fashion (QG, Pix, you, Payne, etc, etc). I'm still not going to here, because I don't wish to experiment where I typically post.
But these AMAZING BEST DISCORDIANS EVER could probably appreciate being spammed into teensy bits...After all, when THEY did it, it was
QuoteIt was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof.
We can be more successful. I just know it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
I just love the idea of intercine fighting between Discordian groups. It's really very simple...If you don't get along with a Discordian group (FB, MS, whatever), don't go there. On the other hand, getting bent out of shape because of criticism over a Discordian group is kind of funny, too...Because it sounds like the FB group caters to a different type of Discordian than PD does. Some people may enjoy both, most people will probably prefer one to the other.
That being said, you're ALL a bunch of cunts. Only *I* know the One True Path of Discordianism. In this, I am like the Buddha. Which means at least one of you should have killed me by now. It's "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha", not "If you meet the Bhudda, let him linger on in frustration for 9 years and then never get around to finishing him off".
And I think we all need to be a hell of a lot more defensive about all this shit, because blindly lashing out at anyone who threatens our intellectual/ideological turf is what being a Discordian is all about.
Or...Well, you know.
Form a schismatic group and denounce you as a Bad Discordian?
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 06:01:04 PM
I gotta admit- i cant see them finding it as funny if they were on the other side of it.
Then for SCIENCE, we have to check out the other side of the joke.
Quote from: Cain on February 20, 2012, 06:02:18 PM
Form a schismatic group and denounce you as a Bad Discordian?
No, I think if WE did that, we'd be BAD Discordians.
QuoteOkay, they fucked with Twid - who has never, IIRC, offered offense to anyone - until he left. Then they all had a good laugh at his expense. Then Twid is the bad guy for being angry about it.
Who's saying Twid is the bad guy?
QuoteBut these AMAZING BEST DISCORDIANS EVER could probably appreciate being spammed into teensy bits...After all, when THEY did it, it was
Who is saying they're amazing discordians? Do you think their trolling strangers on the internet actually impacts whether they're good discordians or not?
Hey- i was nice enough even then. I gave them a heads up that any further invites would be reported and the user blocked.
This also amused them. :shrug:
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 06:05:36 PM
QuoteOkay, they fucked with Twid - who has never, IIRC, offered offense to anyone - until he left. Then they all had a good laugh at his expense. Then Twid is the bad guy for being angry about it.
Who's saying Twid is the bad guy?
QuoteBut these AMAZING BEST DISCORDIANS EVER could probably appreciate being spammed into teensy bits...After all, when THEY did it, it was
Who is saying they're amazing discordians? Do you think their trolling strangers on the internet actually impacts whether they're good discordians or not?
I was reacting to this:
QuoteIt was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof.
So if it's a GREAT projects, because Twid got upset, then it should be a GREAT project if we return the favor.
Or is it that Twid's being annoyed somehow doesn't count? This isn't a jab, Cramulus, I'm honestly trying to understand what the standards are here.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 06:06:08 PM
Hey- i was nice enough even then. I gave them a heads up that any further invites would be reported and the user blocked.
This also amused them. :shrug:
To be perfectly honest, they sound like totse2 tards.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 06:05:36 PM
QuoteOkay, they fucked with Twid - who has never, IIRC, offered offense to anyone - until he left. Then they all had a good laugh at his expense. Then Twid is the bad guy for being angry about it.
Who's saying Twid is the bad guy?
QuoteBut these AMAZING BEST DISCORDIANS EVER could probably appreciate being spammed into teensy bits...After all, when THEY did it, it was
Who is saying they're amazing discordians? Do you think their trolling strangers on the internet actually impacts whether they're good discordians or not?
You said it was the most successful trolling project ever done by Discordians.
I am just trying to figure out how we can better ourselves, given their enormous "success" at fucking with a guy (Twid)
who never intentionally causes anybody any trouble at all.Frankly, Cram, I've gone from a neutral position on them, to thinking of them as a pack of absolute shitcakes.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 06:14:33 PM
I was reacting to this:
QuoteIt was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof.
So if it's a GREAT projects, because Twid got upset, then it should be a GREAT project if we return the favor.
Or is it that Twid's being annoyed somehow doesn't count? This isn't a jab, Cramulus, I'm honestly trying to understand what the standards are here.
Twid posted that it wasn't even a good troll.
And honestly, I have to disagree, in terms of being a troll, it was wildly successful. There were 10,000+ people in the Discordian Society facebook group. In 24 hours, they had reduced it to under 8,000. The group's wall was overflowing with anger and flounce posts. If that's not a successful troll, I don't know what is.
Please don't confuse that with me patting them on the back or shitting on Twid or something.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 06:14:33 PM
I was reacting to this:
QuoteIt was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof.
So if it's a GREAT projects, because Twid got upset, then it should be a GREAT project if we return the favor.
Or is it that Twid's being annoyed somehow doesn't count? This isn't a jab, Cramulus, I'm honestly trying to understand what the standards are here.
Twid posted that it wasn't even a good troll.
And honestly, I have to disagree, in terms of being a troll, it was wildly successful. There were 10,000+ people in the Discordian Society facebook group. In 24 hours, they had reduced it to under 8,000. The group's wall was overflowing with anger and flounce posts. If that's not a successful troll, I don't know what is.
Please don't confuse that with me patting them on the back or shitting on Twid or something.
So, they destroyed 20% of their own user base? That's fucking AMAZING. Are they tea party members on the side? Because that's the only group I know that sets out with the specific purpose of randomly driving off their own members.
They sound like utter assholes. I mean, fuck, it's just HILARIOUS that Twid is angry a year later, right?
I mean, because he's an existing customer, which means what he feels about it is immaterial in the face of a "wildly successful troll".
PD: The second-class citizenry of Discordia.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 06:14:33 PM
I was reacting to this:
QuoteIt was a GREAT troll. One of the most successful troll projects I've seen Discordians do. Your degree of annoyance (a year later) is proof.
So if it's a GREAT projects, because Twid got upset, then it should be a GREAT project if we return the favor.
Or is it that Twid's being annoyed somehow doesn't count? This isn't a jab, Cramulus, I'm honestly trying to understand what the standards are here.
Twid posted that it wasn't even a good troll.
And honestly, I have to disagree, in terms of being a troll, it was wildly successful. There were 10,000+ people in the Discordian Society facebook group. In 24 hours, they had reduced it to under 8,000. The group's wall was overflowing with anger and flounce posts. If that's not a successful troll, I don't know what is.
Please don't confuse that with me patting them on the back or shitting on Twid or something.
So, they destroyed 20% of their own user base? That's fucking AMAZING. Are they tea party members on the side? Because that's the only group I know that sets out with the specific purpose of randomly driving off their own members.
They sound like utter assholes. I mean, fuck, it's just HILARIOUS that Twid is angry a year later, right?
I mean, because he's an existing customer, which means what he feels about it is immaterial in the face of a "wildly successful troll".
PD: The second-class citizenry of Discordia.
You can admire the success of something without endorsing the purposes to which it is put.
I'm pretty sure that's what Cramulus is doing. I'd have to agree with him; if trolling is all about getting an emotional impact, well, you can't fault them in terms of success.
Quote from: Demolition_Squid on February 20, 2012, 06:31:45 PM
You can admire the success of something without endorsing the purposes to which it is put.
I'm pretty sure that's what Cramulus is doing. I'd have to agree with him; if trolling is all about getting an emotional impact, well, you can't fault them in terms of success.
Okay, I'll buy that. I expect, of course, equal admiration if I can get their top 3-10 posters equally upset, preferably to the point where they quit the group in disgust...and then laugh about it with the folks here.
That "troll" clogged up my inbox and my page. I went in and made some setting changes and removed a lot of people from my contact list. People like Twid, who use their page for more than posting mindless jabber were seriously disrespected.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
That "troll" clogged up my inbox and my page. I went in and made some setting changes and removed a lot of people from my contact list. People like Twid, who use their page for more than posting mindless jabber were seriously disrespected.
We don't count.
TGRR,
Existing customer.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 06:50:12 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 06:48:35 PM
That "troll" clogged up my inbox and my page. I went in and made some setting changes and removed a lot of people from my contact list. People like Twid, who use their page for more than posting mindless jabber were seriously disrespected.
We don't count.
TGRR,
Existing customer.
Point.
so just some background on the eventgasm ---- and let me be clear that I'm just describing what happened and why, there are no value judgments in this post.
In early 2011, The Discordian Society FB group had 10K people in it, but there were only about 1-3 posts per day.
At the time, the most fun "Discordian" thing happening on FB was Nigel's add-everybody group. You guys remember that? Nigel found out that you could add ANYBODY to a group that you admin. For example, you could start a group called "the justin beiber fan club" and add everybody on your friends list without their consent. People got really angry about this, but Nigel, laughing all the way, told them it was satire with a point - it was supposed to send a message to facebook that they should change the way their groups work.
When the embers of that prank died down, a bunch of Discordians (three or four people tops) wanted to keep running with it. They realized that FB had another issue to exploit: if you're a member of a facebook group, you can turn off notifications (likely the case with 99.5% of the people in the huge-ass Discordian Society group), but you still get an e-mail if somebody in the group sends you an event-invite. So they thought it would be really fun to message 10K people at once. They started a silly non-event and sent it to everybody.
Without any kind of organization or ringleading, other people in the group started to follow suit. By my count, there were 30 or 40 people sending invites at the height of it. As group members started flouncing and getting annoyed, it just fueled the pranksters further. In some of their minds, they were "cabbage hunting" - weeding out people that couldn't take a joke. They said they'd rather have a group of 1K active members than 10K lurkers. (let me be clear this wasn't the consensus, this was the opinion of the people sending the invites)
After about 120 event invites had gone out, the two group admins shut it down. They banned a bunch of the people who sent multiple event invites, and turned off the group's event-invite function. Lehua (one of the admins) said the eventgasm fucked up her schoolwork because her e-mail (via a slow-ass campus connection) was jammed with invites. They were kinda pissed off.
It's been a year. Anybody who wanted to join the group again was allowed to. The admins turned the event-invite function back on and said it's cool as long as you use it responsibly. (a week later, I used it to snag participants for the Discordian Society vs the Tea Party gasm. People responded really positively to the event invite as long as it was connected to a good joke or a real project).
The DS-fb group is active again, and now there are about 6 splinter groups for refugees of the original eventgasm. The main lasting effect of eventgasm is the "really real discordians" meme spread to facebook - you basically get ceaselessly mocked if you try to tell a Discordian that he's not acting like a real Discordian. There's also a big group of them who identify themselves with the label "fake discordian".
I watched this whole process with a detached sense of horrormirth and history repeating.
Cram, once would have been funny. Once.
yeah, I was pissed as hell
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
Without any kind of organization or ringleading, other people in the group started to follow suit. By my count, there were 30 or 40 people sending invites at the height of it. As group members started flouncing and getting annoyed, it just fueled the pranksters further. In some of their minds, they were "cabbage hunting" - weeding out people that couldn't take a joke. They said they'd rather have a group of 1K active members than 10K lurkers. (let me be clear this wasn't the consensus, this was the opinion of the people sending the invites)
1. How many active members did they drive off, as opposed to lurkers? And although I frequently rail about lurking, I have never told anyone to GTFO if they won't post.
2. Can THEY take a "joke"? Say, if there was an exploit that allowed someone to post reams of horrible shit to someone's personal wall?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 07:05:46 PM
1. How many active members did they drive off, as opposed to lurkers? And although I frequently rail about lurking, I have never told anyone to GTFO if they won't post.
beats me! Before the eventgasm, there were maybe 5 active posters. Now there's at least 30, maybe 50. So in the long run, the net effect was to increase the amount of group activity. Sadly, in doing so they drove off some really cool people, including some authors and publishers. I remember being really pissed when Adam Gorightly (Kerry Thornley's biographer) flounced. He left a post to the effect of, "If this is your idea of a mindfuck, then your mind is fucked."
Quote2. Can THEY take a "joke"? Say, if there was an exploit that allowed someone to post reams of horrible shit to someone's personal wall?
depends. I've seen a few people get their walls spammed/imagebombed and their reaction is amusement. "Awesome, keep going!" Others get really paranoid when they feel like somebody's out to get them and they launch into hysterical overreactions. Somewhere out there, there's a facebook group whose sole purpose is to post screencaps of me trash talking the eventgasm (:lol:). So they do have the potential to flip out to hilarious levels. But still - hard to generalize about Discordians, especially when they're so disorganized.
The only person I've seen actively troll the DS group this year was Patrick Livingston Hayes (?). He posted "Order will eventually win." This caused a lot of people to flip out at him. Every time they tried to engage him, he'd post something like, "See? Order is winning." Rinse. Repeat.
After three days, the group had gotten tired of interacting with him, and jacked the thread into just squawking about whatever. They keep the OP bumped, and the thread is about 20K comments long now. Several people made fake profiles pretending to be that guy and friended all his friends. I think he quit facebook a few days later, thoroughly trolled. ("He's right! Order won!" they cheered.) I think he's still the #1 running joke over there.
Frankly, I have to agree with Thornley's biographer.
These assholes are definitely totse2 material. They are a brand of Discordianism that serves only as a smokescreen for my kind of Discordian.
Also, it's kind of personal. I LIKE Twid (and Charley, and the other members of this board), and the fact that they got so much glee out of "trolling" or "GASMing" a guy like him, who never fucks with anyone, puts an even heavier slant on things.
Hell, even if I didn't know Twid, etc, the fact that they decided to shit on their own house, and then use the standard passive-aggressive "CANCHA TAKE A JOKE?" as an excuse to fuck with them harder, when there's hardly a lack or worthy targets...Well, what good IS there to be said about them?
And it makes me wonder what the act of getting involved in GASMs is associating myself with. Or who, for that matter.
In addition, this highlights one of the most misrepresented lines in the original PD.
"Discordians must stick apart." So far, I have seen 3 basic concepts inspired by this line.
1. Discordians must never centralize, as it makes them visible.
2. Discordians must never organize, as it instills dogma.
3. It's perfectly okay to be a complete and utter shit to anyone you please, for any reason or no reason at all, provided it's you that's doing the shitting. It was the excuse Lauren, Hugh, and the other shitbots used for fucking with peoples accounts and PMs, it was the excuse for Malaul shutting down threads if Horab was losing an argument with someone, etc. Going after a legitimate target is one thing: Shitting on fellow Discordians is quite another.
Guess which meaning is used 90% of the time people mention that phrase?
Having thought about it a little, fuck trolling them. There's no point. Trolling, to my mind, is primarily a way to get individuals in a group to wake up out of the group...And given what's considered admirable over there, there's no one to wake up, and no ideas worth examining. They have nothing to say, and they said it really loud.
Twid, Charley, etc...My advice is to just do what you - and I, for different reasons - have done. Just leave, and never give them another thought.
I'm with you there. I don't try to put anything substantial in the Discordian Society group, it gets scrolled off the page almost immediately by somebody posting 10 consecutive youtube links and My Little Pony memes. The point of that group isn't to be a community or coherent society or writer's workshop or anything, it's basically just a link stream. That seems to be the case with 90% of facebook groups.
Eventgasm is one of those things that illustrates what i hate about internet memes. Some of them are useful and valuable but too many of them are inane frustrating and counterproductive. It seems like the most annoying ones gain the best amount of spreading. Like charley said it would have been funny once. It would have benn funny ten times. Over that youre not really thinking for yourself schmuck anymore. At least from my perspective. Youre letting the meme possess you as is rather than making someone like me go ok maybe they have a point and i should involve myself with them more. But the real problem there was (*t least with me being light on interaction) was that i didnt find much interesting going on.
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 07:55:24 PM
I'm with you there. I don't try to put anything substantial in the Discordian Society group, it gets scrolled off the page almost immediately by somebody posting 10 consecutive youtube links and My Little Pony memes. The point of that group isn't to be a community or coherent society or writer's workshop or anything, it's basically just a link stream. That seems to be the case with 90% of facebook groups.
Then why bother with them at all? If they have nothing to offer, then the only thing that can come of associating with them is an inbox full of garbage. Hell, they're too fucking brain-damaged to find someone
worthy of trolling, so they're too fucking retarded to mess with.
Based on your most recent assessment, I have to concur with Twid. They are basically Youtube cabbages, in my personal opinion. Hell, even Mysticwicks had some people worth talking to (and eventually "converting" as a side effect). The only 3 places I've seen that have nobody worth a damn were Church of Google (hell, Dr Goofy was okay, so scratch that one), Totse2, and FB Discordians.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
Then why bother with them at all? If they have nothing to offer, then the only thing that can come of associating with them is an inbox full of garbage.
sometimes the links are pretty funny
Quote from: Cramulus on February 20, 2012, 08:03:36 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:00:35 PM
Then why bother with them at all? If they have nothing to offer, then the only thing that can come of associating with them is an inbox full of garbage.
sometimes the links are pretty funny
So are the links at stumbleupon, or so I hear.
Yeah, I haven't been back. I tried to help Cram add content at first, then realized it wasn't going to work.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 08:15:02 PM
Yeah, I haven't been back. I tried to help Cram add content at first, then realized it wasn't going to work.
Yep. The reason I didn't go barging past totse2's ban to be a roaring jackass, Little Billy-style? There was nothing to be gained, and nobody worth talking to. Same applies here.
Contrast that with the much-ridiculed Pagan boards, where there was ALWAYS something to be gained (You, for example). We couldn't leave the fucking things alone, and with good reason.
So there you have it: FB Discordians < TCC, etc.
Id still be willing to use it as a platform for projects or to repost something from here. But id like to wrap up some of my current projects here and finish anarchangels album first. I dont have high expectations but copy and paste only takes me a few seconds.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Id still be willing to use it as a platform for projects or to repost something from here. But id like to wrap up some of my current projects here and finish anarchangels album first. I dont have high expectations but copy and paste only takes me a few seconds.
You're a sucker for punishment, Twid. :lol:
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:21:03 PM
Id still be willing to use it as a platform for projects or to repost something from here. But id like to wrap up some of my current projects here and finish anarchangels album first. I dont have high expectations but copy and paste only takes me a few seconds.
Like chasing parked cars, you'll catch a lot of them, but only get bruises for your trouble.
Villager just chuckled at that and said "its true"
but like i said. Dont have high hopes and it would be minimal effort.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
Villager just chuckled at that and said "its true"
but like i said. Dont have high hopes and it would be minimal effort.
Still too much effort, IMO. This is your "nice guy" gland kicking in again.
Me? The very idea of posting to twerps that dumped on me for no reason other than their own cheap kicks would be pretty much unthinkable.
A pig may walk on the road,
A pig may swim in the sea,
A pig may post whatever he pleases,
But no pig shits on me.
Hell, a few of them are probably reading this thread as we speak, and are wanking it as hard as they can over their "success". It would be like having a whole board full of DECI4s.
Good point. Yeah if i want something to spread out to a larger discordian audience ill think of somewhere or somehow else.
Any time you add "Facebook" as a prefix to a group label, such as "Discordian" or "DJ" . . . it seems to take the ability of that person to reason effectively down to nil. I base this statement only on my own observations from a distance. It's like Facebook is an injection of group-think and hive-mind on an individual.
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on February 20, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
Any time you add "Facebook" as a prefix to a group label, such as "Discordian" or "DJ" . . . it seems to take the ability of that person to reason effectively down to nil. I base this statement only on my own observations from a distance. It's like Facebook is an injection of group-think and hive-mind on an individual.
The old Myspace Discordians were similar, but without the pointless fuckery.
There WAS fuckery, quite a bit aimed at me, but I like to think I
earned it. :lol:
How do you mean? Does it take the observers ability to reason or the fb discordians ability to reason down to nil?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: Cardinal Pizza Deliverance. on February 20, 2012, 08:33:13 PM
Any time you add "Facebook" as a prefix to a group label, such as "Discordian" or "DJ" . . . it seems to take the ability of that person to reason effectively down to nil. I base this statement only on my own observations from a distance. It's like Facebook is an injection of group-think and hive-mind on an individual.
The old Myspace Discordians were similar, but without the pointless fuckery.
There WAS fuckery, quite a bit aimed at me, but I like to think I earned it. :lol:
I'm sure you did. :) You have a way of winning over the hearts and minds of the adoring masses. Myspace, Facebook, . . . I expect Tumblr and Stumblewhatever and Linkdin are all similar? I haven't joined any major social network thing since LiveJournal. Although I have a Google+ thing now so I suppose I'll find out of that falls in line with the rest of these social abortions.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
How do you mean? Does it take the observers ability to reason or the fb discordians ability to reason down to nil?
Because Zuckerberg.
That's why. :lulz:
Seriously, I think the "like" button makes people dumb. For real, not joking.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
How do you mean? Does it take the observers ability to reason or the fb discordians ability to reason down to nil?
The participants, not the observer's. Although I suppose there's a discrepancy there since the observer doesn't actually know what prompts the participant to pull down his pants and shit on the keyboard in the first place. LULZ and the hope of being in a group of self-congradulating 'popular kids', I guess?
What I see is based on my own anti-social nature so it is entirely possible I don't understand the point of it at all. I'd much rather be a shithead in person and face-to-face than spread poop on the internet.
You might be on to something. It allows people to voice approval without expressing what they like about it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
How do you mean? Does it take the observers ability to reason or the fb discordians ability to reason down to nil?
Because Zuckerberg.
That's why. :lulz:
Seriously, I think the "like" button makes people dumb. For real, not joking.
It allows them to align themselves with something shiny and sparkly but frees them from the responsibility of participating in any meaningful way. Sort of like how the Mittens thing ended up, yeah? Or am I over-thinking things?
Pizza- exactly what i was thinking.
*like*
Oh, snap, twinsies! :P Now see, if there had been a 'like' button, one of us could have just clicked it and spared the forum the redundancies of our conclusions.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
Like charley said it would have been funny once. It would have benn funny ten times. Over that youre not really thinking for yourself schmuck anymore.
I looked at it kind of like the vomit scene in Team America: World Police: It started out funny, went on so long it wasn't funny anymore, then kept going until it was kind of funny again. After that it was just sort of mildly annoying until all the self-congratulations afterwards, which actually lowered my estimation of the group a lot more than the mailbox full of pointless and mostly uninteresting events.
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Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 07:58:39 PM
Like charley said it would have been funny once. It would have benn funny ten times. Over that youre not really thinking for yourself schmuck anymore.
I looked at it kind of like the vomit scene in Team America: World Police: It started out funny, went on so long it wasn't funny anymore, then kept going until it was kind of funny again. After that it was just sort of mildly annoying until all the self-congratulations afterwards, which actually lowered my estimation of the group a lot more than the mailbox full of pointless and mostly uninteresting events.
They were just shitting in their own mess kits.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 08:38:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 20, 2012, 08:36:48 PM
How do you mean? Does it take the observers ability to reason or the fb discordians ability to reason down to nil?
Because Zuckerberg.
That's why. :lulz:
Seriously, I think the "like" button makes people dumb. For real, not joking.
That's been my opinion on the whole social media thing from pretty much the word go.
Putting aside the, IMO, small portion of people who actually utilize it in a smart, intelligent, and constructive way....
For so many more I think it has been a net negative.
I'll put down a fiver or two right now that says someday a study will come out that says social media has made people
less connected, not more. I'm talking connection on a personal and real level.
Clicking a like button is not communication. It isn't socializing.
Honestly, the most constructive troll/O:MF of any community on Facebook would be to destroy Facebook.
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Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
Can't see the pic...But it's because men are wired completely differently from women, so our behavior seems both alien and retarded. Also, when we see boobs, our brains drop into our necks. Or at least mine does.
It's just retarded "LOLMISOGYNY" humor.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:44:44 PM
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Wow! How can I be as Discordian as them?
I mean, targeting other Discordians with mass-spam as trolling sounds like the absolute height of thinking for yourself.
Luckily I don't think trolling people on the Internet has any bearing on whether or not you're a good Discordian. What a relief, right? I'd hate to think that nigel's hilarious "Add everybody you know to this FB group" FB group, or our goth poetry trolls, or any number of irritating pranks we've pulled over the years, makes us bad Discordians.
That's a relief, all right. Because after your earlier post about how funny they all thought it was to make Twid angry (I was with you until that point), I wish to be every bit as good at Discordianism as they are.
I am all about annoying the shit out of people. Where it becomes a problem is when you shit where you eat.
Quote from: Nigel on February 20, 2012, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
Can't see the pic...But it's because men are wired completely differently from women, so our behavior seems both alien and retarded. Also, when we see boobs, our brains drop into our necks. Or at least mine does.
It's just retarded "LOLMISOGYNY" humor.
Oh, the pic?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 20, 2012, 09:06:40 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 20, 2012, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 05:00:26 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 20, 2012, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 20, 2012, 04:37:51 PM
Well fuck my old boots! It seems we really aren't as clever as we might seem to be after all! :lulz:
Speak for yourself Skippy! I'm a fucking genius.
I just can't figure out why my wife calls me a retard.
That's easy. It's because . . . . .
(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx128/ChuckFukmuk/Infographics/funny-graphs-every-time.jpg)
Can't see the pic...But it's because men are wired completely differently from women, so our behavior seems both alien and retarded. Also, when we see boobs, our brains drop into our necks. Or at least mine does.
It's just retarded "LOLMISOGYNY" humor.
Oh, the pic?
Yes.
Quote from: Nigel on February 21, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
Yes.
Yeah, well, some people might actually see it that way. I don't. Can't see myself living with someone who always HAS to be right. That's the fault of the person tolerating it, to be honest.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2012, 09:55:41 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 21, 2012, 09:54:42 PM
Yes.
Yeah, well, some people might actually see it that way. I don't. Can't see myself living with someone who always HAS to be right. That's the fault of the person tolerating it, to be honest.
I've lived with someone who always had to be right. And if he was wrong, it was my fault.
Easy fix; I divorced his stupid ass. There's no reason to tolerate that kind of bullshit.
Damn, it was just a joke.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 21, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
Damn, it was just a joke.
Yeah, but we're the Bad Guys. We can't be expected to know how to behave. :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 21, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
Damn, it was just a joke.
Yeah, but we're the Bad Guys. We can't be expected to know how to behave. :lulz:
Go get me my belt and drop your pance, mister.
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 21, 2012, 10:08:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 21, 2012, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: Charley Brown on February 21, 2012, 10:06:32 PM
Damn, it was just a joke.
Yeah, but we're the Bad Guys. We can't be expected to know how to behave. :lulz:
Go get me my belt and drop your pance, mister.
:lulz:
OHHHH, DADDY! YOU'RE SO MASTERFUL!
:lulz:
Thought about this. How can that be misogynist, when there's only one sex in the joke? And the jokes premise is just as true in a woman / woman argument. I've seen it. Women argue up to the point that they can both back off, but still walk away with dignity. (More than men do anyway. Men just like to fight) And the punchline? Far from misogynous. Either way, a woman wins the argument. Which begs the question, "What is an argument" in the first place. And is the winning of an argument defined by whether it's right or wrong? And what it says to me, is not that "Oh, Women need to be right" or "Aren't Women jus' the dumb". I got "Yes, we may very well be wrong, but 'winning the argument now and again matters too".
So if the joke scenario were real, the Two Woman argument would end with them both winning, and both losing. The Man/Woman argument would end with the Man being wrong. Whether his argument was correct or not.
And that's the rub. Right or wrong, the Man loses the argument. And accepting that is a given. What puzzles me is how it's "LOLMISOGYNY".
Quote from: BadBeast on February 21, 2012, 11:39:30 PM
Thought about this. How can that be misogynist, when there's only one sex in the joke? And the jokes premise is just as true in a woman / woman argument. I've seen it. Women argue up to the point that they can both back off, but still walk away with dignity. (More than men do anyway. Men just like to fight) And the punchline? Far from misogynous. Either way, a woman wins the argument. Which begs the question, "What is an argument" in the first place. And is the winning of an argument defined by whether it's right or wrong? And what it says to me, is not that "Oh, Women need to be right" or "Aren't Women jus' the dumb". I got "Yes, we may very well be wrong, but 'winning the argument now and again matters too".
So if the joke scenario were real, the Two Woman argument would end with them both winning, and both losing. The Man/Woman argument would end with the Man being wrong. Whether his argument was correct or not.
And that's the rub. Right or wrong, the Man loses the argument. And accepting that is a given. What puzzles me is how it's "LOLMISOGYNY".
Uh.
Oh my god. Fuck that.
Let me reframe this:
Thought about this. How can that be racist, when there's only one race in the joke? And the jokes premise is just as true in a Black / Black argument. I've seen it. Blacks argue up to the point that they can both back off, but still walk away with dignity. (More than Whites do anyway. Whites just like to fight) And the punchline? Far from racist. Either way, a Black wins the argument. Which begs the question, "What is an argument" in the first place. And is the winning of an argument defined by whether it's right or wrong? And what it says to me, is not that "Oh, Blacks need to be right" or "Aren't Blacks jus' the dumb". I got "Yes, we may very well be wrong, but 'winning the argument now and again matters too".
So if the joke scenario were real, the Two Blacks argument would end with them both winning, and both losing. The White/Black argument would end with the White being wrong. Whether his argument was correct or not.
And that's the rub. Right or wrong, the White loses the argument. And accepting that is a given. What puzzles me is how it's "LOLRACISM".
OH, MAYBE IT'S THE TOTAL GENERALIZATION ABOUT AN ENTIRE CATEGORY OF PEOPLE BEING IRRATIONAL. OR SOMETHING. THAT MIGHT BE IT.
Jesus fuck. :lulz:
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure.
Bullshit Nigel. You damn well know we stand for womens rights.
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure.
Bullshit Nigel. You damn well know we stand for womens rights.
"We"? I didn't know you and BB were a unit.
I said that the joke was stupid in a "LOLMISOGYNY" way. And it is. Why the FUCK is anyone defending it? And why the FUCK would anyone who "stands for women's rights" think that kind of TOTSE2 stupidity is funny?
Get your fucking knuckles off the ground and be men, FFS.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure.
Bullshit Nigel. You damn well know we stand for womens rights.
"We"? I didn't know you and BB were a unit.
I said that the joke was stupid in a "LOLMISOGYNY" way. And it is. Why the FUCK is anyone defending it? And why the FUCK would anyone who "stands for women's rights" think that kind of TOTSE2 stupidity is funny?
Get your fucking knuckles off the ground and be men, FFS.
Get off your high horse and pick up your sense of humor, FFS.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Well, it wasn't a nigger joke. And it wasn't posted to offend you. It wasn't even a woman joke particularly. It was a relationship joke if anything. Sorry if you found it "mildly embarrassing".
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Now now, I think we need to establish your credentials to have an opinion on matters of sex, gender and/or race. As we can plainly see as demonstrated by our betters in the congress, women are incapable of having a legitimate opinion on their own sexual health. This is as it should be of course. We can infer this also applies to matters of race. Now we all know that Nigel is legally black, the big question is she legally a woman. I move that we convene a hearing to determine the status of "her" gender and sex so we can place "her" opinions in the proper light.
Like I said; it's not offensive, it's just retarded. We all laugh at retarded shit from time to time. What makes us bipeds is the ability to go "oh yeah, shit, I guess that is pretty fucking stupid and I can do better".
Or, you know, cling screeching to the idea that saying women have a desperate need to be right whether they're actually right or not is a funny and non-sexist joke. Either way, right?
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Now now, I think we need to establish your credentials to have an opinion on matters of sex, gender and/or race. As we can plainly see as demonstrated by our betters in the congress, women are incapable of having a legitimate opinion on their own sexual health. This is as it should be of course. We can infer this also applies to matters of race. Now we all know that Nigel is legally black, the big question is she legally a woman. I move that we convene a hearing to determine the status of "her" gender and sex so we can place "her" opinions in the proper light.
:lulz:
Best possible side-effect of telling Roger that he wasn't missing anything.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:53:31 AM
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Now now, I think we need to establish your credentials to have an opinion on matters of sex, gender and/or race. As we can plainly see as demonstrated by our betters in the congress, women are incapable of having a legitimate opinion on their own sexual health. This is as it should be of course. We can infer this also applies to matters of race. Now we all know that Nigel is legally black, the big question is she legally a woman. I move that we convene a hearing to determine the status of "her" gender and sex so we can place "her" opinions in the proper light.
:lulz:
Best possible side-effect of telling Roger that he wasn't missing anything.
:thanks:
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:52:12 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure. I don't even find it offensive, just mildly retarded in that "Oh, that was embarrassing" way.
Well, it wasn't a nigger joke. And it wasn't posted to offend you. It wasn't even a woman joke particularly. It was a relationship joke if anything. Sorry if you found it "mildly embarrassing".
Head, meet sand.
Yes, it's a totally non sexist joke that isn't even about women. At all. :lulz:
Dig in.
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 12:51:08 AM
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Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 12:45:21 AM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 12:44:29 AM
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:39:06 AM
It's a fucking joke, it doesn't have to be rational. Just funny. And although I accept it's not the funniest joke in the World, it is funny.
In the same way that nigger jokes are funny, sure.
Bullshit Nigel. You damn well know we stand for womens rights.
"We"? I didn't know you and BB were a unit.
I said that the joke was stupid in a "LOLMISOGYNY" way. And it is. Why the FUCK is anyone defending it? And why the FUCK would anyone who "stands for women's rights" think that kind of TOTSE2 stupidity is funny?
Get your fucking knuckles off the ground and be men, FFS.
Get off your high horse and pick up your sense of humor, FFS.
Oh, really? I'm sorry, I forgot that Archie Bunker humor was "in" this year. Hold on, let me just stick my head into the conform-O-matic. BRB.
Well, I don't mind losing arguments that much anyway, so whatever the point is, I'll concede it to you Nigel. You win.
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So a blonde is in the garage blowing on the tailpipe of her car. Another blonde walks by and asks what she is doing. Blonde 1 replied that her car had some hail damage and the body shop was too busy to get her car in. The did tell her if she blew on the tailpipe that she could blow the dents out. The 2nd blond replied, "Duh, you have to roll the windows up first."
Oh I get it. This is now 'Telling sexist jokes for irony time"
Yes?
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Well, I don't mind losing arguments that much anyway, so whatever the point is, I'll concede it to you Nigel. You win.
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:spittake:
NOW THAT SHIT IS FUNNY!
I can't tell from way up here on this horse, it's much too far away.
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 01:03:04 AM
Oh I get it. This is now 'Telling sexist jokes for irony time"
Yes?
Irony;
(http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/HawkShadowsoul/Bamaemergengyroom.jpg)
Three blondes were walking in the forest one day. They saw a set of tracks and started arguing over what kind of tracks they were.
The first blonde said, "I think they're deer tracks!"
The second blonde said, "I think they're dog tracks!"
The third blonde said, "Well, I think they're cow tracks!"
They were still arguing when the train hit them.
Just iterating that I know the difference between funny, and not very funny misogyny.
But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 01:12:56 AM
But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
Yeah, Doesn't he look young and fresh without that beard?
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
Yeah, Doesn't he look young and fresh without that beard?
No. He looks like a horrible old West criminal, who's just lurking in New Mexico. Waiting.
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
Yeah, Doesn't he look young and fresh without that beard?
No. He looks like a horrible old West criminal, who's just lurking in New Mexico. Waiting.
Oh spoiler alert! :lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 01:53:53 AM
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 01:17:12 AM
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Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 01:12:56 AM
But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
I knew I should have changed it.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 02:01:40 AM
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
Yeah, Doesn't he look young and fresh without that beard?
No. He looks like a horrible old West criminal, who's just lurking in New Mexico. Waiting.
Shhh, they'll find me. Us outlaws don't have a lot of longevity here in New Mexico.
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 03:02:29 AM
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But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
Yeah, Doesn't he look young and fresh without that beard?
No. He looks like a horrible old West criminal, who's just lurking in New Mexico. Waiting.
Shhh, they'll find me. Us outlaws don't have a lot of longevity here in New Mexico.
You should make for the border!
(You'd love Canada)
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Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 03:03:44 AM
(You'd love Canada)
I prefer cactus to snow.
Those mushrooms they've got up there piss all over the cactus, so I've heard. And they've got a Queen! They're civilised.
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(You'd love Canada)
I prefer cactus to snow.
Those mushrooms they've got up there piss all over the cactus, so I've heard. And they've got a Queen! They're civilised.
Medical pot is legal here.
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 03:09:35 AM
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(You'd love Canada)
I prefer cactus to snow.
Those mushrooms they've got up there piss all over the cactus, so I've heard. And they've got a Queen! They're civilised.
Medical pot is legal here.
"Medical Pot" is rubbish. You should get some of that "recreational pot" all the young 'uns are catching schizofrenia off of.
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Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 01:12:56 AM
But Twid beat me to it. Nice one fella.
Gotcha bitch, this is Hawk :lulz:
I shall so get you back for that! :lulz:
:lulz:
Yeah, you had me going, too, til I noticed your avatar.
More lulz hawk, here's your avatar:
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTUwMjg4ODQwNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjU4MzcyNA@@._V1._SX640_SY954_.jpg
Bloody Twiddledum and Twiddledee! Well played those two! :lulz:
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 04:13:45 AM
Bloody Twiddledum and Twiddledee! Well played those two! :lulz:
This is going to be fun ;)
Quote from: Billy, not Twid on February 22, 2012, 01:07:31 AM
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 01:03:04 AM
Oh I get it. This is now 'Telling sexist jokes for irony time"
Yes?
Irony;
(http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu264/HawkShadowsoul/Bamaemergengyroom.jpg)
Old unfunny trying-too-hard shoop is ironic? Or is merely old unfunny trying-too-hard shoop? :?
A blonde walks into a a bar with a rabbi and a Chinaman.
The blonde opens her sandwich and says 'bloody hell, not vegiemite again'
Rabbi whispers to the donkey. It starts laughing and nobody can tell why.
The Chinaman told the barkeeper to make him one with everything because he wanted to become the shaggiest dog in the world. He threw the sandwich out the window and says "there's too many of those in my country!"
The barman looks at the Blonde and says 'hey, fella; why the long face?'
The moral of the story;
Better Nate than Lever.
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Hey hey Faust, You wanna hear a good joke? Hey, you hear the one about that Irish guy right? He was drunk. Oh, oh, and that one about the Greek dude? Buttsechs. How about that Italian bloke? Fahk him ked, he's a fahkin ginzo muthafucka. Fahkin we'll breed em out of existence with our AIIIIIrish dicks. What about that Russian guy? Vodka, sure now, like, but at least they're not Pollacks, sure. They're all ovur thuh place! Sure now, you know about them Injiehns, thems all ovur the place too! Tanks to de Brits for all em for the Empoir an bringinemin here. Oh an', how about that black guy, who's floi'in the plane? What do ye call him now, loik? Oh, a fookin' poilot ye feckin' racist! ;)
Twid,
Heard some of this shit. Sometimes (believe it or not) hates being Irish.
Hey! Hey!
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Hey hey Faust, You wanna hear a good joke? Hey, you hear the one about that Irish guy right? He was drunk. Oh, oh, and that one about the Greek dude? Buttsechs. How about that Italian bloke? Fahk him ked, he's a fahkin ginzo muthafucka. Fahkin we'll breed em out of existence with our AIIIIIrish dicks. What about that Russian guy? Vodka, sure now, like, but at least they're not Pollacks, sure. They're all ovur thuh place! Sure now, you know about them Injiehns, thems all ovur the place too! Tanks to de Brits for all em for the Empoir an here. Oh an', how about that black guy, who's floi'in the plane? What do ye call him now, loik? Oh, a fookin' poilot ye feckin' racist! ;)
Twid,
Heard some of this shit. Sometimes (believe it or not) hates being Irish.
Hey! Hey!
You get a lot of that, but the guys with the cutting wit make it all worth while.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 09:17:51 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Hey hey Faust, You wanna hear a good joke? Hey, you hear the one about that Irish guy right? He was drunk. Oh, oh, and that one about the Greek dude? Buttsechs. How about that Italian bloke? Fahk him ked, he's a fahkin ginzo muthafucka. Fahkin we'll breed em out of existence with our AIIIIIrish dicks. What about that Russian guy? Vodka, sure now, like, but at least they're not Pollacks, sure. They're all ovur thuh place! Sure now, you know about them Injiehns, thems all ovur the place too! Tanks to de Brits for all em for the Empoir an here. Oh an', how about that black guy, who's floi'in the plane? What do ye call him now, loik? Oh, a fookin' poilot ye feckin' racist! ;)
Twid,
Heard some of this shit. Sometimes (believe it or not) hates being Irish.
Hey! Hey!
You get a lot of that, but the guys with the cutting wit make it all worth while.
You're a good dude, Faust.
I dunno. I think being a Bostonian sonnovanimmigrant creates a....
I've only been able to explain it thus. I am a Connemaran trapped in Boston, and I am am Bostonian trapped in Connemara. Does that make sense? If you were to ask me what I am, I would say either New Englander or Galwegian. Maybe I should start up a new thread, but what the fuck am I? Where am I? Where do I belong? You're more of a fuckin Tadhg than I am (pardon the expession). Am I Irish? Are you and I compatriots? I just don't fucking know anymore. What am I?
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:32:46 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 09:17:51 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Hey hey Faust, You wanna hear a good joke? Hey, you hear the one about that Irish guy right? He was drunk. Oh, oh, and that one about the Greek dude? Buttsechs. How about that Italian bloke? Fahk him ked, he's a fahkin ginzo muthafucka. Fahkin we'll breed em out of existence with our AIIIIIrish dicks. What about that Russian guy? Vodka, sure now, like, but at least they're not Pollacks, sure. They're all ovur thuh place! Sure now, you know about them Injiehns, thems all ovur the place too! Tanks to de Brits for all em for the Empoir an here. Oh an', how about that black guy, who's floi'in the plane? What do ye call him now, loik? Oh, a fookin' poilot ye feckin' racist! ;)
Twid,
Heard some of this shit. Sometimes (believe it or not) hates being Irish.
Hey! Hey!
You get a lot of that, but the guys with the cutting wit make it all worth while.
You're a good dude, Faust.
I dunno. I think being a Bostonian sonnovanimmigrant creates a....
I've only been able to explain it thus. I am a Connemaran trapped in Boston, and I am am Bostonian trapped in Connemara. Does that make sense? If you were to ask me what I am, I would say either New Englander or Galwegian. Maybe I should start up a new thread, but what the fuck am I? Where am I? Where do I belong? You're more of a fuckin Tadhg than I am (pardon the expession). Am I Irish? Are you and I compatriots? I just don't fucking know anymore. What am I?
I had a lot of that, when I was in greece they saw me as Irish, when I got to Ireland I was Greek and took a lot of shit for it. Race and heritage exist only in the mind: I never felt truly Irish and I never felt truly greek, and in their eyes I was never Irish or greek.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 09:40:04 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:32:46 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 09:17:51 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 09:11:03 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Hey hey Faust, You wanna hear a good joke? Hey, you hear the one about that Irish guy right? He was drunk. Oh, oh, and that one about the Greek dude? Buttsechs. How about that Italian bloke? Fahk him ked, he's a fahkin ginzo muthafucka. Fahkin we'll breed em out of existence with our AIIIIIrish dicks. What about that Russian guy? Vodka, sure now, like, but at least they're not Pollacks, sure. They're all ovur thuh place! Sure now, you know about them Injiehns, thems all ovur the place too! Tanks to de Brits for all em for the Empoir an here. Oh an', how about that black guy, who's floi'in the plane? What do ye call him now, loik? Oh, a fookin' poilot ye feckin' racist! ;)
Twid,
Heard some of this shit. Sometimes (believe it or not) hates being Irish.
Hey! Hey!
You get a lot of that, but the guys with the cutting wit make it all worth while.
You're a good dude, Faust.
I dunno. I think being a Bostonian sonnovanimmigrant creates a....
I've only been able to explain it thus. I am a Connemaran trapped in Boston, and I am am Bostonian trapped in Connemara. Does that make sense? If you were to ask me what I am, I would say either New Englander or Galwegian. Maybe I should start up a new thread, but what the fuck am I? Where am I? Where do I belong? You're more of a fuckin Tadhg than I am (pardon the expession). Am I Irish? Are you and I compatriots? I just don't fucking know anymore. What am I?
I had a lot of that, when I was in greece they saw me as Irish, when I got to Ireland I was Greek and took a lot of shit for it. Race and heritage exist only in the mind: I never felt truly Irish and I never felt truly greek, and in their eyes I was never Irish or greek.
Compatriots then. Two Irishmen stuck in between two countries.
Or, maybe a better way to look at it, two Irishmen with different perspectives. Both of which are not necessarily flattering to the US. :shifty eyes:
I guess one of my problems is this. I have a sense of what it is to be Irish. A pretty damn good (and sometimes, as recent personal history shows, painful) sense of what it is.
I've always hated the... I don't want to say plastic paddyism since Boston actually does have a large Irish population, but I think you know where I'm going. On the 17th, I'm going to pick up my acoustic, and play our songs. And then an hour after I am done playing, it's amateur hour. Not that I want to get hammered. Villager saw a cheesy tie in the drug store the other day. It was green and said "kiss me, I'm (:roll:) Irish." she tried to goad me into buying it, admittedly for the lulz, but the first thing out of my mouth was "I take my heritage seriously"
Is that stupid? I may have the same passport at the end of the day, but my grandfather always voices disapproval by starting a sentence with "Do all Americans...?"
He cut that the fuck out after grandma's passing but even still. What the fuck am I Faust? And you're absolved of your Greekness to answer this.
Grandpa hates America. He's very complex about it. And yet, he supports the Democratic Party unequivocally.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
I guess one of my problems is this. I have a sense of what it is to be Irish. A pretty damn good (and sometimes, as recent personal history shows, painful) sense of what it is.
I've always hated the... I don't want to say plastic paddyism since Boston actually does have a large Irish population, but I think you know where I'm going. On the 17th, I'm going to pick up my acoustic, and play our songs. And then an hour after I am done playing, it's amateur hour. Not that I want to get hammered. Villager saw a cheesy tie in the drug store the other day. It was green and said "kiss me, I'm (:roll:) Irish." she tried to goad me into buying it, admittedly for the lulz, but the first thing out of my mouth was "I take my heritage seriously"
Is that stupid? I may have the same passport at the end of the day, but my grandfather always voices disapproval by starting a sentence with "Do all Americans...?"
He cut that the fuck out after grandma's passing but even still. What the fuck am I Faust? And you're absolved of your Greekness to answer this.
Grandpa hates America. He's very complex about it. And yet, he supports the Democratic Party unequivocally.
I wouldn't feel so insecure about being Irish if I was you, you care more about Irish culture then the average Irish Person around here, everyone my age grew up watching Friends and the Simpson's all the girls wear fake tan and wish they were on Jersey shores.
Anyone a little older takes heritage a bit more seriously but even that is a rapidly changing thing.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 10:00:50 AM
I guess one of my problems is this. I have a sense of what it is to be Irish. A pretty damn good (and sometimes, as recent personal history shows, painful) sense of what it is.
I've always hated the... I don't want to say plastic paddyism since Boston actually does have a large Irish population, but I think you know where I'm going. On the 17th, I'm going to pick up my acoustic, and play our songs. And then an hour after I am done playing, it's amateur hour. Not that I want to get hammered. Villager saw a cheesy tie in the drug store the other day. It was green and said "kiss me, I'm (:roll:) Irish." she tried to goad me into buying it, admittedly for the lulz, but the first thing out of my mouth was "I take my heritage seriously"
Is that stupid? I may have the same passport at the end of the day, but my grandfather always voices disapproval by starting a sentence with "Do all Americans...?"
He cut that the fuck out after grandma's passing but even still. What the fuck am I Faust? And you're absolved of your Greekness to answer this.
Grandpa hates America. He's very complex about it. And yet, he supports the Democratic Party unequivocally.
I wouldn't feel so insecure about being Irish if I was you, you care more about Irish culture then the average Irish Person around here, everyone my age grew up watching Friends and the Simpson's all the girls wear fake tan and wish they were on Jersey shores.
Anyone a little older takes heritage a bit more seriously but even that is a rapidly changing thing.
Yu Ming is ainm dom.
Tuigim anois.
I dunno. You know my first name. My middle name is Barry. That puts a lot of psychological pressure on me, as I'm sure you know. I've always felt the need to be more Irish than my own father. Hell, he named me after the guy, and then ended up on the dole in Liverpool. This past Thanksgiving my living grandmother (gods bless Bridie) said I was her favorite Irishman. My uncle by marriage went, "but wait a minute... Kevin's not really Irish" And I said I was Irish. And recognized by the Irish government as such, and hey, Eamonn DeValera was an American" "Oh, I didn't know that.... I'm going to have to look that up..." "want to get a bet started? He was from New York."
Ta meisce orm. Imma shut up now.
To outside observers- the American in question, Eamonn DeValera, was one of the Irish Republic's most... erm...consequential citizens. He served as the President (Uachtaran), Prime Minister (Taoiseach) and all sorts of other offices.
Not that I approve of the guy since he sold out Collins.
Fucking Yank.....
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 10:43:15 AM
To outside observers- the American in question, Eamonn DeValera, was one of the Irish Republic's most... erm...consequential citizens. He served as the President (Uachtaran), Prime Minister (Taoiseach) and all sorts of other offices.
Not that I approve of the guy since he sold out Collins.
Fucking Yank.....
Collins was able to play the game just as well as Dev, neither of them were saints, they both did a lot of good and bad for ireland.
In Dev's defence, despite protecting the church bunreacht na heireann is one of the strongest constitutions in the world for protecting the rights of the people.
And as I said, what it means to be Irish is changing, I'm in a room with two Barry's, they are both locals born and bred. Names like Charles are kinda brittish, but Charlie is very much an Irish sounding name.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 10:53:20 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 10:43:15 AM
To outside observers- the American in question, Eamonn DeValera, was one of the Irish Republic's most... erm...consequential citizens. He served as the President (Uachtaran), Prime Minister (Taoiseach) and all sorts of other offices.
Not that I approve of the guy since he sold out Collins.
Fucking Yank.....
Collins was able to play the game just as well as Dev, neither of them were saints, they both did a lot of good and bad for ireland.
In Dev's defence, despite protecting the church bunreacht na heireann is one of the strongest constitutions in the world for protecting the rights of the people.
And as I said, what it means to be Irish is changing, I'm in a room with two Barry's, they are both locals born and bred. Names like Charles are kinda brittish, but Charlie is very much an Irish sounding name.
Is docha (It is probable) I should go to bed and think this over more.
Uisce beatha, mo chara. Ta meisce orm agus taim tuirseach.
(Whiskey, my friend. I'm drunk and i'm tired)
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Caoimhin, le do thoil, a Mhicheal.
Is Eireannach muid.
Oiche mhaith.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Caoimhin, le do thoil, a Mhicheal.
Is Eireannach muid.
Oiche mhaith.
In short, this is a request to refer to me as Kevin, instead of Barry.
Goddammit, now I have to listen to the song about my namesake (Kevin Barry).
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
Goddammit, now I have to listen to the song about my namesake (Kevin Barry).
You don't
have to. You could listen to this instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8cpTt_MfL0
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 12:05:15 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
Goddammit, now I have to listen to the song about my namesake (Kevin Barry).
You don't have to. You could listen to this instead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8cpTt_MfL0
Honestly BB I wish you posted this on March 18th.
Dear sweet Lugh why am I still awake!!!!
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Caoimhin, le do thoil, a Mhicheal.
Is Eireannach muid.
Oiche mhaith.
In short, this is a request to refer to me as Kevin, instead of Barry.
Sorry, Kevin it is, I should have known because that's the one you use on facebook.
No. Fuck thisl Ta chodladh orm. Sleepy tyme.
Oiche mhaith, a Chaoimhin.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Caoimhin, le do thoil, a Mhicheal.
Is Eireannach muid.
Oiche mhaith.
In short, this is a request to refer to me as Kevin, instead of Barry.
Sorry, Kevin it is, I should have known because that's the one you use on facebook.
I respect my name. But I;m Kevin. Or Twid. Or Blight. Barry just sounds silly. ;)
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 12:13:40 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:36:03 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:25:10 AM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy. on February 22, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
For the benefit of English speakers, natch.
I have no doubt in your Irish, Faust. And thanks for indulging my identity ambiguity,
Man you are as Irish as they come (for all the good and bad that entails), don't be worrying about things like that.
Goodnight Barry.
Caoimhin, le do thoil, a Mhicheal.
Is Eireannach muid.
Oiche mhaith.
In short, this is a request to refer to me as Kevin, instead of Barry.
Sorry, Kevin it is, I should have known because that's the one you use on facebook.
I respect my name. But I;m Kevin. Or Twid. Or Blight. Barry just sounds silly. ;)
Use it's unshortened version then, Barrington.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Oh wait, so now it
is misogynist? :lulz: Which is what I was saying in the first place. It's just a lowest-common-denominator Readers Digest repost kind of joke. TGRR wanted to know what he'd missed, and I told him. But that hurt Badbeast's delicate feelings, apparently.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
Three gay guys were sitting in a hot tub when some sperm floated to the surface. After looking at it for a minute, one of the guys asked, "Okay, who farted?"
This thread is incredibly confusing.
I agree that it's okay to make jokes about racial issues (ie, "legally Black") or similar parodies on anti-Gay propaganda, because the target of the joke is the people advancing said propaganda. Notice the subtle distinction. Likewise, my yerrup jokes are obviously targeted at the ugly American, not at people from Belgium.
And while I don't think we should outlaw the jokes aimed at the actual minorities themseves, I think you can learn a lot about the person telling them.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:14:26 PM
I agree that it's okay to make jokes about racial issues (ie, "legally Black") or similar parodies on anti-Gay propaganda, because the target of the joke is the people advancing said propaganda. Notice the subtle distinction. Likewise, my yerrup jokes are obviously targeted at the ugly American, not at people from Belgium.
And while I don't think we should outlaw the jokes aimed at the actual minorities themseves, I think you can learn a lot about the person telling them.
They have a sense of humor?
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:14:26 PM
I agree that it's okay to make jokes about racial issues (ie, "legally Black") or similar parodies on anti-Gay propaganda, because the target of the joke is the people advancing said propaganda. Notice the subtle distinction. Likewise, my yerrup jokes are obviously targeted at the ugly American, not at people from Belgium.
And while I don't think we should outlaw the jokes aimed at the actual minorities themseves, I think you can learn a lot about the person telling them.
They have a sense of humor?
They post on Zoklet?
I will continue to be who I am, if that offends you two then ban me.
I feel like there's at least 3 and a half conversations happening at once in here, with a 35% frivolity rating overall.
I don't know who's brawling with whom, and I can't easily follow when it's Twilly the Bid or Kiddy the Twill or Biddy the Destroyer of Worlds posting, because tiny phone screen makes reading less easy.
Someone condense the entirety of the last 5 pages down into an easily digestible soundbite, plz. I'm too American for this shit.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
I will continue to be who I am, if that offends you two then ban me.
Why the hell would we ban you?
When have we ever banned anyone for disagreeing?
Quote from: Cainad on February 22, 2012, 04:22:51 PM
I feel like there's at least 3 and a half conversations happening at once in here, with a 35% frivolity rating overall.
I don't know who's brawling with whom, and I can't easily follow when it's Twilly the Bid or Kiddy the Twill or Biddy the Destroyer of Worlds posting, because tiny phone screen makes reading less easy.
Someone condense the entirety of the last 5 pages down into an easily digestible soundbite, plz. I'm too American for this shit.
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted. Twid got drunk, (fukin Irishman) and he and Faust had great talk. Fread over.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
I will continue to be who I am, if that offends you two then ban me.
Why the hell would we ban you?
When have we ever banned anyone for disagreeing?
Not sure, in my absence it seems PD has changed...
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Oh wait, so now it is misogynist? :lulz: Which is what I was saying in the first place. It's just a lowest-common-denominator Readers Digest repost kind of joke. TGRR wanted to know what he'd missed, and I told him. But that hurt Badbeast's delicate feelings, apparently.
Speaking on behalf of my feelings, I'd like to make it clear that I'm lolling quite loudly at the very thought of this. If I had any feelings that sensitive, I would donate them to the whiny baby fund.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Oh wait, so now it is misogynist? :lulz: Which is what I was saying in the first place. It's just a lowest-common-denominator Readers Digest repost kind of joke. TGRR wanted to know what he'd missed, and I told him. But that hurt Badbeast's delicate feelings, apparently.
Speaking on behalf of my feelings, I'd like to make it clear that I'm lolling quite loudly at the very thought of this. If I had any feelings that sensitive, I would donate them to the whiny baby fund.
:spittake:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
Funny thing is, the only person who was offended was BB, because I to referred to a dumb sexist joke as a dumb sexist joke. :lulz:
1. It was dumb
2. It was sexist
Seriously, pages of defending it? Wow. :lulz: And now apparently I don't have a sense of humor, either.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 04:29:13 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
Oh wait, so now it is misogynist? :lulz: Which is what I was saying in the first place. It's just a lowest-common-denominator Readers Digest repost kind of joke. TGRR wanted to know what he'd missed, and I told him. But that hurt Badbeast's delicate feelings, apparently.
Speaking on behalf of my feelings, I'd like to make it clear that I'm lolling quite loudly at the very thought of this. If I had any feelings that sensitive, I would donate them to the whiny baby fund.
:butthurt:
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
Funny thing is, the only person who was offended was BB, because I to referred to a dumb sexist joke as a dumb sexist joke. :lulz:
1. It was dumb
2. It was sexist
Seriously, pages of defending it? Wow. :lulz: And now apparently I don't have a sense of humor, either.
Wait, I'm the one who was supposedly offended, but here you are, 12 pages and 166 fucking posts later, still banging on about it?
I think I made probably 2 or three of those posts in defence of that joke. Like, 10 pages ago. That's milking it a bit hard for the drama, by anybody's standards.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:28:55 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:24:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
I will continue to be who I am, if that offends you two then ban me.
Why the hell would we ban you?
When have we ever banned anyone for disagreeing?
Not sure, in my absence it seems PD has changed...
Right. What the fuck ever. While you were gone, we all strapped on Nazi armbands and started holding book burnings.
Conversation fucking over. You guys want this place to turn into totse2? Go right the fuck ahead.
?
I'll bet Danjanon never saw this coming when he started this thread! :lulz:
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
I'm just trying to learn what's funny and why, is all.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
And I know PD has changed and we ban people for disagreeing and shit, but I promise I won't in this case.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
So, it's like when FB Discordians spammed everyone so hard they left, and they're still mocking Twid's departure a year later? They just reacted to the reaction, and spammed even harder.
Was that funny?
And if had a reaction to a "nigger" joke, and someone got offended, would you immediately tell 10 more "nigger" jokes?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Depends. Is "Yakety Sax" playing in the background?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
So, it's like when FB Discordians spammed everyone so hard they left, and they're still mocking Twid's departure a year later? They just reacted to the reaction, and spammed even harder.
Was that funny?
And if had a reaction to a "nigger" joke, and someone got offended, would you immediately tell 10 more "nigger" jokes?
Roger, out of respect of our long friendship, I am stepping away from this conversation.
Quote from: kingyak on February 22, 2012, 05:13:47 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Depends. Is "Yakety Sax" playing in the background?
That's a special case.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
I take full responsibility for the dumb joke. But in my defence, it was just a dumb joke. 170 posts ago. If I'd known it was going to be so thoroughly dissected, I would have made sure it was funnier. And far more fucking offensive.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:11:31 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
So, it's like when FB Discordians spammed everyone so hard they left, and they're still mocking Twid's departure a year later? They just reacted to the reaction, and spammed even harder.
Was that funny?
And if had a reaction to a "nigger" joke, and someone got offended, would you immediately tell 10 more "nigger" jokes?
Roger, out of respect of our long friendship, I am stepping away from this conversation.
Sounds reasonable. I still don't understand, though.
Quote from: BadBeast on February 22, 2012, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
I take full responsibility for the dumb joke. But in my defence, it was just a dumb joke. 170 posts ago. If I'd known it was going to be so thoroughly dissected, I would have made sure it was funnier. And far more fucking offensive.
Okay. I think I understand. We're totse2, now.
Roger, you just don't understand. If only you could GET TUFF you would see...
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:20:29 PM
Roger, you just don't understand. If only you could GET TUFF you would see...
Yes, that seems to be the problem. I'm not TUFF.
We should start a few threads about "muzziscum" or "mexicants" or whatnot, just to get into the swing of things.
But I still don't understand why the Cram thing wasn't funny, by these standards. I mean, it was on him to GET TUFF, wasn't it?
All this goes way over the head of a simple preacher man.
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
Actually, that's a good sign. It shows we are on the road to true TUFFness.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
I cant
possibly think why Roger would think the completely unprovoked and uncalled for suggestion that he would ban you for disagreeing would irk him.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
I cant possibly think why Roger would think the completely unprovoked and uncalled for suggestion that he would ban you for disagreeing would irk him.
All I know is this: After I called Cram out for trying to jack the editorship of Common Walls, I have been either ignored in threads or I'm suddenly under a different standard that everyone else, because Cram somehow is the ONLY CREATIVE FORCE ON PD. And he's the cool kid.
Frankly, I'm offended as hell (cue laugh track), and SORELY FUCKING DISAPPOINTED in quite a few people here.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Because I'm not in the cool kid's group?
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Because I'm not in the cool kid's group?
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I disagreed with you simply because I saw it differently, and that seems to be what is offending you, to me.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Because I'm not in the cool kid's group?
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I disagreed with you simply because I saw it differently, and that seems to be what is offending you, to me.
I've explained what offended me.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Because I'm not in the cool kid's group?
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I disagreed with you simply because I saw it differently, and that seems to be what is offending you, to me.
I've explained what offended me.
Yes, and those of us who didn't immediately fall into line behind you are setting up a "cool kid" shop. Oddly, wasn't the thread in TFYS?
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
Yes, and those of us who didn't immediately fall into line behind you are setting up a "cool kid" shop.
Okay, conversation over. Because I fucking said NOTHING LIKE THAT.
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:29:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
I cant possibly think why Roger would think the completely unprovoked and uncalled for suggestion that he would ban you for disagreeing would irk him.
All I know is this: After I called Cram out for trying to jack the editorship of Common Walls, I have been either ignored in threads or I'm suddenly under a different standard that everyone else, because Cram somehow is the ONLY CREATIVE FORCE ON PD. And he's the cool kid.
Frankly, I'm offended as hell (cue laugh track), and SORELY FUCKING DISAPPOINTED in quite a few people here.
The ignored thing may be a coincidence...but that some of it seems to be drifting over here is not.
It's a shame if people are acting like that because of this, because Cram isn't and probably wouldn't approve of it.
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
Surely, the only way we can scientifically test her womanness is to argue with her.
If you lose, regardless of the validity of your premises, then we
must conclude she is a woman.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:20:29 PM
Roger, you just don't understand. If only you could GET TUFF you would see...
I disagree.
(http://content8.flixster.com/question/44/64/97/4464974_std.jpg)
Oh Fuuuuuuuuucc.........................
Okay, I'm done explaining myself. It's pointless, anyway. I am the fucking Bad Guy, and no argument as to my motives or indeed my actions will have any effect at all.
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:33:42 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:31:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
Except you aren't doing it to be funny.
Because I'm not in the cool kid's group?
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I disagreed with you simply because I saw it differently, and that seems to be what is offending you, to me.
I've explained what offended me.
Yes, and those of us who didn't immediately fall into line behind you are setting up a "cool kid" shop. Oddly, wasn't the thread in TFYS?
Dear Lord, dude. You're going out of your way, aren't you?
:lulz: :argh!:
This is all very hilarious.
Now that I understand what PD currently considers "hilarious".
WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS IS HAWK AND WHICH OF YOU IS NEPHEW TWIDDLETON? I CAN'T TELL WHO IS BEING A JERKFACE. :tgrr:
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 22, 2012, 06:36:18 PM
WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS IS HAWK AND WHICH OF YOU IS NEPHEW TWIDDLETON? I CAN'T TELL WHO IS BEING A JERKFACE. :tgrr:
I am JERKFACE.
Fine, fuck you both.
I'm Twid. He's not.
Okay. Sorry to you for "fuck you."
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
It's context, the same joke expressed differently has wildly different outcomes. Also there is never any fault to someone getting offended any more then someone laughing at a joke others would take offense with
The other Twid admitted to being the jerkface too. :wink:
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 07:00:54 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 04:06:41 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:43:07 AM
Race jokes, misogyny jokes, fat jokes, blond jokes, Irish jokes, rape jokes, religious jokes, scat jokes and all manner of grossout jokes are all hilarious.
The best kind of humour offends.
As my sister in law would say "grow a pair".
So, if someone tells a joke about Gays here, and one of the LBGT crowd gets upset about it, it's the LBGT person's fault?
I mean, I want to understand exactly what the standard is, here.
It's context, the same joke expressed differently has wildly different outcomes. Also there is never any fault to someone getting offended any more then someone laughing at a joke others would take offense with
Okay, just wanting to get the standard straight.
There is another time that I would hold gross jokes and puns in a sacrosanct manner, apart from ironic racism or homophobic jokes that really parody bigots there is the sheer joy of telling ye most offencive joke you can when in company of those you dislike intensely and hope never to see again.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 07:08:29 PM
There is another time that I would hold gross jokes and puns in a sacrosanct manner, apart from ironic racism or homophobic jokes that really parody bigots there is the sheer joy of telling ye most offencive joke you can when in company of those you dislike intensely and hope never to see again.
I agree with this, and that the really really offensive jokes are ALWAYS funny, but the one posted was lame.
I have changed my name back for clarification. If you people don't think what is posted is funny, or up to your standards, then try fucking ignoring it instead of creating a fucking board war.
This is complete bullshit and disgusts me.
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
I have changed my name back for clarification. If you people don't think what is posted is funny, or up to your standards, then try fucking ignoring it instead of creating a fucking board war.
This is complete bullshit and disgusts me.
Got that guys? If you disagree with anyone from now on, you're not allowed to discuss it, you have to ignore it, IOW shut up.
Strife is bad, mmmk?
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 07:16:42 PM
I have changed my name back for clarification. If you people don't think what is posted is funny, or up to your standards, then try fucking ignoring it instead of creating a fucking board war.
This is complete bullshit and disgusts me.
Got that guys? If you disagree with anyone from now on, you're not allowed to discuss it, you have to ignore it, IOW shut up.
Strife is bad, mmmk?
Go fuck yourself. You come in the discussion in the 11th hour for no other purpose than to stir shit up.
I'm fucking disappointed in some you asshats. Crying because someone pointed out that your fucking joke wasn't funny and why it wasn't funny.
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
:lulz: This just gets better and better every time I leave and come back. Apparently "LOLMISOGYNY" is an over the top reaction, but pages and pages of butthurt over someone saying "LOLMISOGYNY" isn't.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread has gone all the way back around to the other side.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
:lulz: This just gets better and better every time I leave and come back. Apparently "LOLMISOGYNY" is an over the top reaction, but pages and pages of butthurt over someone saying "LOLMISOGYNY" isn't.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread has gone all the way back around to the other side.
Yeah, because you are always right. Oh, that has nothing to do with you being a woman, but has a great deal to do with your arrogance.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
:lulz: This just gets better and better every time I leave and come back. Apparently "LOLMISOGYNY" is an over the top reaction, but pages and pages of butthurt over someone saying "LOLMISOGYNY" isn't.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread has gone all the way back around to the other side.
But can't you see it Nigel? Your scathing ALL CAPS wounded them deeply in the hindmost region of their souls. And it is all your fault being legally female all over the place.
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
:lulz: This just gets better and better every time I leave and come back. Apparently "LOLMISOGYNY" is an over the top reaction, but pages and pages of butthurt over someone saying "LOLMISOGYNY" isn't.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread has gone all the way back around to the other side.
Truth. Apparently :roll: = :evilmad: :argh!: :mad:
:lulz:
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:27:34 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:26:12 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
Also, apparently we ban people for disagreeing with us now, Cain.
Why didn't I get the memo on that?
You're just going to keep poking at me, aren't you?
But I thought that was the funny part? :?
It's only funny if you do it to
other people, Reverend.
Different people.
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
My original birth certificate is archived in the State of Oregon, but they did issue me this certified copy... that should be good enough, right?
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
My original birth certificate is archived in the State of Oregon, but they did issue me this certified copy... that should be good enough, right?
Is it the short form birth certificate? If so, I'm afraid not.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
Surely, the only way we can scientifically test her womanness is to argue with her.
If you lose, regardless of the validity of your premises, then we must conclude she is a woman.
oshit :lulz:
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 22, 2012, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
My original birth certificate is archived in the State of Oregon, but they did issue me this certified copy... that should be good enough, right?
Is it the short form birth certificate? If so, I'm afraid not.
I am afraid only an extremely invasive medical examination performed by a team experts on women will do. And by experts I mean men. And by team I mean it will also be televised on Fox.
Isn't that required for a driving licence in the state of Virginia?
It's disturbing funny because it's true!!!!!!! :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :horrormirth:
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
Quote from: Charley on February 22, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 22, 2012, 05:01:57 PM
Quote from: Twid, not Billy on February 22, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Joke made. Offense taken. Hilarity resulted.
I know I offended the hell out of Cram yesterday.
Why wasn't that "hilarity"?
Well, that was an open attack and not an attempt at humor. I see a big difference there.
So, if I'd honked a bicycle horn and thrown a cream pie while I did it, it would be okay?
Are you deliberately being obtuse? You damn well know the difference.
Nope. I do not. Because I attacked a particular person, it isn't funny. If I attack an entire race or gender, it's funny. I don't understand that.
Bullshit, no race or gender was attacked and you know it. If there hadn't been such a over the top reaction to a dumb joke the entire thing would have gone away. In true Discordian fashion we merely reacted to the reaction.
:lulz: This just gets better and better every time I leave and come back. Apparently "LOLMISOGYNY" is an over the top reaction, but pages and pages of butthurt over someone saying "LOLMISOGYNY" isn't.
:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
This thread has gone all the way back around to the other side.
Yeah, because you are always right. Oh, that has nothing to do with you being a woman, but has a great deal to do with your arrogance.
Are you all doped up on something? What the hell are you even trying to say? :lulz:
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Isn't that required for a driving licence in the state of Virginia?
If by required you mean once proven legal female they aren't allowed to drive legal, then yes.
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 07:55:06 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 22, 2012, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: Nigel on February 22, 2012, 07:52:27 PM
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
My original birth certificate is archived in the State of Oregon, but they did issue me this certified copy... that should be good enough, right?
Is it the short form birth certificate? If so, I'm afraid not.
I am afraid only an extremely invasive medical examination performed by a team experts on women will do. And by experts I mean men. And by team I mean it will also be televised on Fox.
:spittake:
Just because you're a woman Nigel, it doesn't excuse your arrogance.
I move that without proof the to other wise, that as Nigel is a man's name, that Nigel is in fact a man and not a woman. As such pursuant to standard argumentational logic is automatically wrong.
Regardless of that even if it were proven that he is in fact legally female, as a woman he would not have the right to express any opinions, despite being automatically correct.
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 07:58:32 PM
Just because you're a woman Nigel, it doesn't excuse your arrogance.
:lulz:
I'm not sure what it is I am supposed to be right or not right about. As far as I can remember, it went like so:
BB posts a .jpg
Roger: "Can't see that, nannywall"
Me: "It's just a retarded LOLMISOGYNY joke"
BAWWWWWSPLOSION ALL OVER THE PLACE
I leave and have dinner with EOT, come back like four hours later and it's all over the place up in here. All over someone basically saying "You didn't miss anything, it's just a dumb sexist joke".
:lulz:
ARROGANCE TO THE HILT!!!
Quote from: Out on February 22, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
I move that without proof the to other wise, that as Nigel is a man's name, that Nigel is in fact a man and not a woman. As such pursuant to standard argumentational logic is automatically wrong.
Regardless of that even if it were proven that he is in fact legally female, as a woman he would not have the right to express any opinions, despite being automatically correct.
THIS IS ALL TOO COMPLICATED FOR ME
I AM BUT A SIMPLE COUNTRY BOY.
These kinds of threads are so weird.
Thats because you don't understand the Constitution, LMNO.
The First Ammendment clearly makes the people:
a) immune from any kind of criticism
b) have the right to be employed by large media conglomerates for all eternity and never ever be fired for anything.
Why you hate America?
Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on February 22, 2012, 08:07:39 PM
These kinds of threads are so weird.
It's like an ocean. PD I mean. There's huge spaces (of time) of almost nothing, and then theres medium or big sized spaces of fruition, brilliance, activity. We have tides. The Intro thread is our shores where people interact with PD, just sticking their feet in. Some people decide to just take a boat and go deep-sea diving without approaching the shore first; sometimes the sharks eat them, sometimes they get to look a whale in the eye. There's beauty here, but you have to be in the right space at the right time, yanno? It's not all otter playing and dolphin fucking.
PD.COM: You otter be careful around the dolphin fucking.
Quote from: What's-His-Name? on February 22, 2012, 08:16:43 PM
PD.COM: You otter be careful around the dolphin fucking.
I laughed loudly and uncontrollably for thirty seconds. :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:
I love me a good otter pun.
That one was good. :lulz:
It otter be, I said it.
Too soon?
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 22, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 07:08:29 PM
There is another time that I would hold gross jokes and puns in a sacrosanct manner, apart from ironic racism or homophobic jokes that really parody bigots there is the sheer joy of telling ye most offencive joke you can when in company of those you dislike intensely and hope never to see again.
I agree with this, and that the really really offensive jokes are ALWAYS funny, but the one posted was lame.
It made me grunt in vague amusement, sure it's a joke that's been around forever but I love flow chart jokes.
And 'sogyny, clearly.
The flow chart made it less lame, I'll grant you that.
It was basically an Andy Rooney segment in .jpg form.
It would probably have been momentarily funny if it wasn't a variation on a very old and stale joke.
It was LOLMISOGYNY, but more importantly, Roger didn't miss anything.
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 08:23:41 PM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 22, 2012, 07:12:05 PM
Quote from: Faust on February 22, 2012, 07:08:29 PM
There is another time that I would hold gross jokes and puns in a sacrosanct manner, apart from ironic racism or homophobic jokes that really parody bigots there is the sheer joy of telling ye most offencive joke you can when in company of those you dislike intensely and hope never to see again.
I agree with this, and that the really really offensive jokes are ALWAYS funny, but the one posted was lame.
It made me grunt in vague amusement, sure it's a joke that's been around forever but I love flow chart jokes.
And 'sogyny, clearly.
Well, after slogging through all that....pretty much this. Offensive jokes can be funny (sometimes very funny) and I will usually laugh at them, even if they aren't the height of wit.
This particular one was a rehash of a stale joke, which momentarily amused me because of the flow chart. So no, Roger didn't miss anything, unless he REALLY likes flowcharts. Soo...I'm not sure actually. Offensive jokes are funny, this one was kinda meh, so that probably should've been the end of it and we should all be sitting in a drum circle by now. Don't bother disagreeing. You've already lost.
Drum circle? Sign me up!
So much has happened while I had no net! Has anyone seen the John Lennon interview on the Dick Cavett show where he justifies 'Woman Is the Nigger of the World'. I saw some of it on a doco the other day. Absolutely brilliant.
Yeah yeah. Cunt.
(http://i.imgur.com/b4JCE.jpg)
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 24, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b4JCE.jpg)
Is that a Hirley0 post I see in there?
I don't know how that got in there I am not good with computer?
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 24, 2012, 04:23:56 PM
I don't know how that got in there I am not good with computer?
It's Hirley0. He goes wherever he pleases.
:lulz:
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 24, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b4JCE.jpg)
oh pretty please can I use this?
Quote from: Triple Zero on February 24, 2012, 04:12:52 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/b4JCE.jpg)
I...I.....uuuhhhhhhh....THIS IS FUCKING GLORIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
QG, yes, no problem! If you prefer an SVG version so it's all resolution independent n shit: http://devio.us/~tripzilch/clown-storage.svg
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Pope Coyote of the Wolffnords on February 22, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 22, 2012, 04:33:02 PM
Clearly Nigel this is your fault for being a woman and so having to be right all the time.
We still haven't established if she is in fact legally a woman. First we need to prove that then we will need to require her to carry around the appropriate papers other wise she would be running around illegally female.
Surely, the only way we can scientifically test her womanness is to argue with her.
If you lose, regardless of the validity of your premises, then we must conclude she is a woman.
We can also check family history, if one of her grandparents was female, then she must legally be at least 25% female. I'm fairly sure I heard her talk about some of her kids being female, so I'm fairly sure she must be at least carrying some of the genes.
(http://i.imgur.com/Bz7LK.jpg)
Yup: http://xckd.com/54/ and http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13989&hilit=0054
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Dude, that was like, 2 weeks ago. We got it.
Twid,
Apologizes and moves on.
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on March 01, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Dude, that was like, 2 weeks ago. We got it.
Twid,
Apologizes and moves on.
Yeah, but I was away for a week and could only get on here via my phone and I wanted to make sure I'd apologised properly.
OT, do you have change for a tenner? (name related pun)
Sure but its in mixed punt and pence coins.
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on March 01, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Dude, that was like, 2 weeks ago. We got it.
Twid,
Apologizes and moves on.
Yeah, but I was away for a week and could only get on here via my phone and I wanted to make sure I'd apologised properly.
OT, do you have change for a tenner? (name related pun)
Castration will get you an alto.
Quote from: Placid Dingo on March 01, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on March 01, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Dude, that was like, 2 weeks ago. We got it.
Twid,
Apologizes and moves on.
Yeah, but I was away for a week and could only get on here via my phone and I wanted to make sure I'd apologised properly.
OT, do you have change for a tenner? (name related pun)
Castration will get you an alto.
I haven't played saxophone for years.
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
No worries.
Quote from: Danjanon on March 02, 2012, 04:41:34 AM
Quote from: Placid Dingo on March 01, 2012, 09:55:33 PM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 10:00:37 AM
Quote from: That'll be five Twid, please. on March 01, 2012, 09:16:36 AM
Quote from: Danjanon on March 01, 2012, 08:13:15 AM
Quote from: The Freeky of SCIENCE! on February 20, 2012, 03:25:58 AM
It didn't come off that way to me, and I'm fairly reasonable most of the time.
No, he meant this community specifically. My hypothesis is supported by how he said he was glad he was wrong this time, which suggests that he was in fact talking about us.
Add to that the fact that he was in fact a huge fucking dick (see below quote) in the intro thread and NEVER apologized for saying it, it is really easy to see how he is being a twatwaffle.
Quote from: Danjanon on February 17, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
Hi Dylan! Try not to get discouraged, if you feel out of everyone's league here, I'm new too. They're not as smart as they appear.
So fuck him and his games. He knows what he's doing.
If I haven't covered the introduction dickishness in either threads, I want to say I'm sorry for that too. I tried to explain earlier that the reason I said it wasn't to offend, but because I feel out of my league here regarding intelligence. Regardless, I want to take full responsibility and to say sorry. It was a dick thing to say, especially to people who I'd only just met.
Dude, that was like, 2 weeks ago. We got it.
Twid,
Apologizes and moves on.
Yeah, but I was away for a week and could only get on here via my phone and I wanted to make sure I'd apologised properly.
OT, do you have change for a tenner? (name related pun)
Castration will get you an alto.
I haven't played saxophone for years.
Don't go dragging this thread down with gratuitous sax!
Do you mean like this?
http://youtu.be/K5v9-h2S5pw?t=1m38s (http://youtu.be/K5v9-h2S5pw?t=1m38s)