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There was only ONE Star Trek.

Started by BadBeast, February 05, 2011, 02:32:35 AM

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Requia ☣

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2011, 06:50:36 PM
Blarg.  Did TNG have CAPTAIN PIKE, the most AWESOMEST VILLIAN EVER?

Hell, no.  It would be "insensitive" to the handicapped, horribly burned, and mobility scooter crowd.

When was Pike ever a villain?
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 05, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on February 05, 2011, 06:50:36 PM
Blarg.  Did TNG have CAPTAIN PIKE, the most AWESOMEST VILLIAN EVER?

Hell, no.  It would be "insensitive" to the handicapped, horribly burned, and mobility scooter crowd.

When was Pike ever a villain?

That episode where he had to go back to Telos IV and he and Spock hijacked the Enterprise. The had clips from the pilot.
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Bruno

You must be thinking of the series "finale" of Futurama.

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Formerly something else...

Requia ☣

I remember them taking Pike there on orders  :?

was nearly a decade ago last I saw that ep though.
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Quote from: Requia ☣ on February 05, 2011, 11:48:13 PM
I remember them taking Pike there on orders  :?

was nearly a decade ago last I saw that ep though.
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Bruno

Spock was the "villain" in that episode. He basically hijacked the ship, and kidnapped Pike.

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Faust

The original series had the spirit of adventure. The next generation was way more sci fi focused and did what it wanted to do well. Both shows were very different and very good.
I hated everything that came after that, with the odd few exceptions of DSN, and those episodes were all about Garak the tailor.


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Cain

Enterprise was the best series ever.

No, seriously, I liked some of the later DS9 episodes, especially the le Carre and Greene themed/inspired ones, as well as the Dominion-Federation war, but apart from that the franchise has been pretty meh for me.  I probably would've liked the original series when it originally came out, had I been around, but I wasn't.

AFK

Heh, my introduction to Star Trek was the animated series based upon the original Star Trek series, which was broadcasted on Nickelodeon.  I recall hating that cartoon very much because it was standing between me and my favorite cartoon series at the time, Dangermouse. 
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Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2011, 03:35:52 AM
Enterprise was the best series ever.

I blame the theme song for that one not taking off as well as it could have.  I couldn't connect that music with Star Trek, at all.
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Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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Quote from: Luna on February 07, 2011, 01:39:11 PM
Quote from: Cain on February 06, 2011, 03:35:52 AM
Enterprise was the best series ever.

I blame the theme song for that one not taking off as well as it could have.  I couldn't connect that music with Star Trek, at all.

That was pretty awful.  But the flaws ran much deeper.  Trekkies, like fandom nerds everywhere, will not accept a prequel with open arms because it basically means rewriting the canon.  And in order to gain a new audience, the show will have to make some kind of relevant links to well known elements of other franchise shows, which leads to stupidity like retconning the Borg or introducing a "temporal Cold War".

Luna

The most recent movie, however, was brilliant.  A prequel, set against a reasonable "okay...  time travel happened, we're now in an alternate reality, things are different, and anything goes" setting.  Worked for me.
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Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."

Cain

That was a stroke of genius.  It was an easy and effective way to offset the massive potential for nerdrage which pretty much any major fandom is made up of, and let the film get on with being an awesome action flick.

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Quote from: Cain on February 07, 2011, 03:29:20 PM
That was a stroke of genius.  It was an easy and effective way to offset the massive potential for nerdrage which pretty much any major fandom is made up of, and let the film get on with being an awesome action flick.

This.
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Luna

Also sidestepping the major problem with any prequel, that being, "we've already SEEN what happens next," so there's no dramatic tension.

The fans would NEVER have tolerated the relationship between Spock and Uhura, for example, in a straight timeline.
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Quote from: The Payne on November 16, 2011, 07:08:55 PM
If Luna was a furry, she'd sex humans and scream "BEASTIALITY!" at the top of her lungs at inopportune times.

Quote from: Nigel on March 24, 2011, 01:54:48 AM
I like the Luna one. She is a good one.

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"Stop talking to yourself.  You don't like you any better than anyone else who knows you."