Hauling Fascists Around By The Ankles

[Cainad (dec.)]

http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment

Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?

Cladistic analysis of neoreaction

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

Yeah.

You pretty much summed it up.

What does it even they don't know.

I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.

This makes me wonder if I subconsciously went into geology in order to save my blood pressure. When people get geology wrong, it's usually benign, not a total misappropriation of core theoretical principles. No one uses the language of Original Horizontality or the Law of Superposition to validate their pseudointellectual bullshit.

There's the whole matter of denying deep time and such, but that's just people being flat wrong, rather than abusing the language of science to build flimsy belief systems.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment

Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?

Cladistic analysis of neoreaction

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

Yeah.

You pretty much summed it up.

What does it even they don't know.

I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.

Yes. Pretty sure you're right.

They're just NO THAT'S NOT EVEN... OH I GIVE UP.


ALL THE TIME.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://blog.jim.com/tag/the-dark-enlightenment

Hahahaha yeah! Is this the part where your troll really comes alive?

Cladistic analysis of neoreaction

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

"Cladistic analysis of neoreaction"

Yeah.

You pretty much summed it up.

What does it even they don't know.

I bet this is what quantum physicists feel like all the time.

This makes me wonder if I subconsciously went into geology in order to save my blood pressure. When people get geology wrong, it's usually benign, not a total misappropriation of core theoretical principles. No one uses the language of Original Horizontality or the Law of Superposition to validate their pseudointellectual bullshit.

There's the whole matter of denying deep time and such, but that's just people being flat wrong, rather than abusing the language of science to build flimsy belief systems.

They don't YET. Just wait until some whackadoo halfwit gets hold of the lingo and goes OH HEY THIS IS JARGON NONE OF THE OTHER WHACKADOOS ARE USING.

[Telarus]

Von is 100% correct.

You might be lucky and end up with a benign monarch/dictatorship.  The Enlightenment had many such benevolent rulers, so it's not impossible.  I don't believe democracy is the be-all and end of political evolution, nor is it suited for every single society at this moment in time (Iraq would have been better under a benign dictatorship than a malevonent democracy, for example, until it developed a civic culture and society capable of supporting democracy.  Of course, such a society was forming in the 1950s, but we stomped on it hard because it favoured the colour red).

But a non-democratic structure introduces more catastrophic points for failure.  A military coup can more efficiently take over a non-democratic state than a democratic one.  Far more easily, in fact.  That's why you see military coups in Pakistan and Fiji with distressing frequency, but not in Finland or Holland.  And that makes it far easier for some complete bastard to force their way to the top. 

The "Dark Enlightenment"* weenies claim democracy is the cause of these dictators, and they have half a point.  But only half.  Much of the fascist reaction of the past century was aristocratic forces funding anti-Communist revolutionary movements to make up for their own loss of power.  Where did Hitler's "seed money" come from?  Bavarian industrialists and aristocrats who feared the Democratic Republic that was set up in the aftermath of WWI.

That BN thinks fascism is simply a "nationalist form of socialism despised by most neoreactionaries" shows his own intellectual weakness in studying the history and alliances of fascism, and is part of a longstanding liberal conservative (ie mainstream right) project to conflate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany in order to justify American action to contain the former.

How does it feel, being a dupe to Cold War propaganda memes? 

*most hilarious name ever, btw.  Ooh "dark".  How badass.

So, basically, if this dude ever read Illuminatus!, he'd line right up behind Wilhelm, Wolfgang, Winifred, and Werner (4 of the 5 Illiminati Primii, and the members of the rock band, "The American Medical Association")?

I hit his blog for a few minutes and even found links praising one of 37's Skilluminati articles ....and was amazed that the level of cognitive dissonance went that far  (Hey, BN.... multiple people here know 37, and he would mock you twice as hard as Cain has.....)

I wonder how long it took him to find this site while wandering blindly through Chapel Perilous?
(I know we've had some interesting conversations about the Chapel Perilous concept before... but I'd like to use this as a good example of why it's called PERILOUS... you could emerge in a state of totally believing in this sort of shit....)

[Cain]

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[Nephew Twiddleton]

My friends, good news! The always helpful Michael Anissimov has recently posted the Neoreactionary Glossary, which gives you a nice summary of the key memes of this exciting new intellectual movement.

Three of these four words are lies.

"exciting new intellectual" is their term for bowel

[Nephew Twiddleton]

I just hit up that dark cult name generator. Check out some of these gems:

The Shadow Lords of the Solar Throne (How is that.... what...)
The Satanic Star Sorcerers 
The Shamans of Magic  are there other kinds of non-magical shamans?
The Yellow Wizards (They're skeered.)
The Disciples of the Dark Demon (Sounds like a cheesy metal album, complete with humorously unoriginal artwork)

[Nephew Twiddleton]

The Circle of the Galactic Sun (what does that even mean?)
The Order of Satan (sounds pretty generic. Like Church of God)
The Church of Dark Energy
The Academy of Imperial Satan
The Solar Legion of Satanic Science
The Society of Dark Energy
The Black Sorcerers of Sorcery (not affiliated with the Shamans of Magic)
The New Vampires (Darkly Sparkly?)

[Kai]

I just realized something. He distinctly referred to academia as the Cathedral, and I feel like I used that same concept in my In Those Days who knows how many years ago.


ETA: Indeed. http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=24465.0 I like mine better.

[Freeky]

Brother Nihil, even von thinks you're an idiot, and he once tried to change his email address to nigger@nig.nog in a pique of butthurt.

Oh damn, I'd forgotten about that!   

[Freeky]

Von is 100% correct.

You might be lucky and end up with a benign monarch/dictatorship.  The Enlightenment had many such benevolent rulers, so it's not impossible.  I don't believe democracy is the be-all and end of political evolution, nor is it suited for every single society at this moment in time (Iraq would have been better under a benign dictatorship than a malevonent democracy, for example, until it developed a civic culture and society capable of supporting democracy.  Of course, such a society was forming in the 1950s, but we stomped on it hard because it favoured the colour red).

But a non-democratic structure introduces more catastrophic points for failure.  A military coup can more efficiently take over a non-democratic state than a democratic one.  Far more easily, in fact.  That's why you see military coups in Pakistan and Fiji with distressing frequency, but not in Finland or Holland.  And that makes it far easier for some complete bastard to force their way to the top. 

The "Dark Enlightenment"* weenies claim democracy is the cause of these dictators, and they have half a point.  But only half.  Much of the fascist reaction of the past century was aristocratic forces funding anti-Communist revolutionary movements to make up for their own loss of power.  Where did Hitler's "seed money" come from?  Bavarian industrialists and aristocrats who feared the Democratic Republic that was set up in the aftermath of WWI.

That BN thinks fascism is simply a "nationalist form of socialism despised by most neoreactionaries" shows his own intellectual weakness in studying the history and alliances of fascism, and is part of a longstanding liberal conservative (ie mainstream right) project to conflate the Soviet Union with Nazi Germany in order to justify American action to contain the former.

How does it feel, being a dupe to Cold War propaganda memes? 

*most hilarious name ever, btw.  Ooh "dark".  How badass.

I do love when Cain puts a smackdown on morons who think they're intellectual and politically smrt.

[Freeky]

Preliminary assessment:  BN is weak and dumb, or, HE CANNAE HANDLE MORE, CAPTAIN!  I'll leave you all to it, and enjoy from the sidelines.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Brave enough to be Nazis! 

[Cainad (dec.)]

Well it seems that most of you "discordians" are little more than dupes of the Cathedral/NWO memetic apparatus after all -- "freethinkers" in the sense that you are willing to think slightly outside the designated boxes of correct thought, but not free in the sense that you reject the existence of the boxes and seek their destruction.

It is a paradoxical fact that at this moment in history, when the West has been almost totally conquered by Cathedral memes, that the most free-thinking people you will find are those often called "reactionaries", "far rightists" or even "fascists" by the Cathedral's memetic police (or as a rabidly pro-NWO Canadian psychopathic she-male I know calls them, "resisters")

Don't worry, the Dark Enlightenment is a big tent; we have room for all kinds of freaks, hedonists and acidheads; we are simply looking for people who are perceptive enough to recognize the true nature of the memetic control apparatus in which we swim, and brave enough to refuse to play an approved role, whether it be "progressive" (designated winner) or "conservative" (designated loser). If this war for human minds were a game of chess, instead of choosing white or black, neoreactionaries would overturn the  table and create a whole new game.

Or that's just what we WANT you to think.

Just like you only WANT us to think that Dark Enlightenment is thinly-veiled white male fear politics couched in postmodern-y wank language and pseudoscience. I'm sure you're actually all brilliant blokes underneath all that cruft.

You play your gambit, and we'll play ours.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

How come every person or organization that advertizes itself as "free thinking" is just another douchenozzle cult?

Seriously.  You have the HFT crowd, who ALSO rant about the dangers of the NWO (plus, of course, the dangers of modern medicine, etc).

Then you have these assmonkeys, who believe that free thinking is best represented by the idea of slapping women down, and by putting all the darkies in their place.

So, "free thinking" equals the same tired shit, a arse boil of wounded White male privilege, and the whining of manlets who are afraid to compete without slapping restrictions on something like 75% of humanity.

Fascists are always, at heart, cowards.  In case you couldn't tell.