Feminists are Scary.

[Ben Shapiro]

I stand corrected then. I still hate the smug feminist hostility towards women who want to understand the system, and I'm glad people are both more aware, and vocal about it.

I don't know any actual feminists that act that way.  I know lots of zealot hipsters that do, though.

You have bought the Rush Limbaugh definition of feminist.

I have around my age. The ones who aren't are around the 15-21 age, or 30-40. Feels weird though. Watching the caste system in the group. OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT NOW THAT!

Isn't Rush's version of a feminist any woman who won't have sex with him?

Nope.  Feminism = egalitarianism.  Rush Limbaugh's definition:  Castrating bitches who hate men.  Which is kind of counter to the whole thing.

Ok then I see it more clearly.

A woman wants equal pay for equal work.  Your opinion? Of course unless work experience is factor then the pay shouldn't be a massive gap.

you included a qualifier that is not important to the question.  the assumption is that all things being equal should women be paid the same as men.
The easy you framed your answer is the same as "we sure I think poc deserve equal pau, unless there is an experience gap" that's weasel word racist just like predicating equal pay on equal experience with regards to men and women.  the question had no meaning without that assumption of equal experience.

I don't think I did. Equal base pay unless someone has more work experience under their belt for the same position.

[Don Coyote]

I stand corrected then. I still hate the smug feminist hostility towards women who want to understand the system, and I'm glad people are both more aware, and vocal about it.

I don't know any actual feminists that act that way.  I know lots of zealot hipsters that do, though.

You have bought the Rush Limbaugh definition of feminist.

I have around my age. The ones who aren't are around the 15-21 age, or 30-40. Feels weird though. Watching the caste system in the group. OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT NOW THAT!

Isn't Rush's version of a feminist any woman who won't have sex with him?

Nope.  Feminism = egalitarianism.  Rush Limbaugh's definition:  Castrating bitches who hate men.  Which is kind of counter to the whole thing.

Ok then I see it more clearly.

A woman wants equal pay for equal work.  Your opinion? Of course unless work experience is factor then the pay shouldn't be a massive gap.

you included a qualifier that is not important to the question.  the assumption is that all things being equal should women be paid the same as men.
The easy you framed your answer is the same as "we sure I think poc deserve equal pau, unless there is an experience gap" that's weasel word racist just like predicating equal pay on equal experience with regards to men and women.  the question had no meaning without that assumption of equal experience.

I don't think I did. Equal base pay unless someone has more work experience under their belt for the same position.

and it is an necessary qualifier to the answer to DOUR's original question.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I stand corrected then. I still hate the smug feminist hostility towards women who want to understand the system, and I'm glad people are both more aware, and vocal about it.

I don't know any actual feminists that act that way.  I know lots of zealot hipsters that do, though.

You have bought the Rush Limbaugh definition of feminist.

I have around my age. The ones who aren't are around the 15-21 age, or 30-40. Feels weird though. Watching the caste system in the group. OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT NOW THAT!

Isn't Rush's version of a feminist any woman who won't have sex with him?

Nope.  Feminism = egalitarianism.  Rush Limbaugh's definition:  Castrating bitches who hate men.  Which is kind of counter to the whole thing.

Ok then I see it more clearly.

A woman wants equal pay for equal work.  Your opinion? Of course unless work experience is factor then the pay shouldn't be a massive gap.

you included a qualifier that is not important to the question.  the assumption is that all things being equal should women be paid the same as men.
The easy you framed your answer is the same as "we sure I think poc deserve equal pau, unless there is an experience gap" that's weasel word racist just like predicating equal pay on equal experience with regards to men and women.  the question had no meaning without that assumption of equal experience.

I don't think I did. Equal base pay unless someone has more work experience under their belt for the same position.

and it is an necessary qualifier to the answer to DOUR's original question.

Well, he DID draw a conclusion that was not part of the data presented (ie, the need for a qualifier concerning experience, which is another way of saying "I don't really want to commit to this answer without an escape hatch).

On the other hand, he isn't actively hostile to the proposition of egilatarianism, so he's part of the pool of "people who agree but don't seem to completely understand the situation", which means that biting his head off is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE and accomplishes nothing except establishing your own street cred.

If you know what I mean.

Just a thought.

TGRR,
Knows you don't bring people around to your way of thinking by screaming.  Especially if they were already there.

[Ben Shapiro]

I was clarifying my answer.

Roger's answer was a yes/no question.

My answer was Yes, but with a "but".

I hope I didn't confuse anyone.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I was clarifying my answer.

Roger's answer was a yes/no question.

My answer was Yes, but with a "but".

I hope I didn't confuse anyone.

And if the woman has more experience than the man, she should get paid more, right?

So there's no "but".

[Ben Shapiro]

I see now my "but" is already included in the question, or is a given.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I see now my "but" is already included in the question, or is a given.

Well, sure.  I could have phrased it better, ie, "All things being equal..."

But the funny thing is, whenever I ask that question, the FIRST thing most people (not just guys, either) do is throw qualifiers and/or disclaimers all over it.

[Don Coyote]

I stand corrected then. I still hate the smug feminist hostility towards women who want to understand the system, and I'm glad people are both more aware, and vocal about it.

I don't know any actual feminists that act that way.  I know lots of zealot hipsters that do, though.

You have bought the Rush Limbaugh definition of feminist.

I have around my age. The ones who aren't are around the 15-21 age, or 30-40. Feels weird though. Watching the caste system in the group. OMG HOW CAN YOU NOT NOW THAT!

Isn't Rush's version of a feminist any woman who won't have sex with him?

Nope.  Feminism = egalitarianism.  Rush Limbaugh's definition:  Castrating bitches who hate men.  Which is kind of counter to the whole thing.

Ok then I see it more clearly.

A woman wants equal pay for equal work.  Your opinion? Of course unless work experience is factor then the pay shouldn't be a massive gap.

you included a qualifier that is not important to the question.  the assumption is that all things being equal should women be paid the same as men.
The easy you framed your answer is the same as "we sure I think poc deserve equal pau, unless there is an experience gap" that's weasel word racist just like predicating equal pay on equal experience with regards to men and women.  the question had no meaning without that assumption of equal experience.

I don't think I did. Equal base pay unless someone has more work experience under their belt for the same position.

and it is an necessary qualifier to the answer to DOUR's original question.

Well, he DID draw a conclusion that was not part of the data presented (ie, the need for a qualifier concerning experience, which is another way of saying "I don't really want to commit to this answer without an escape hatch).

On the other hand, he isn't actively hostile to the proposition of egilatarianism, so he's part of the pool of "people who agree but don't seem to completely understand the situation", which means that biting his head off is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE and accomplishes nothing except establishing your own street cred.

If you know what I mean.

Just a thought.

TGRR,
Knows you don't bring people around to your way of thinking by screaming.  Especially if they were already there.

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

[Ben Shapiro]

I see now my "but" is already included in the question, or is a given.

Well, sure.  I could have phrased it better, ie, "All things being equal..."

But the funny thing is, whenever I ask that question, the FIRST thing most people (not just guys, either) do is throw qualifiers and/or disclaimers all over it.

It felt like a shot in the dark to me, but a small monkey in my head was yelling Read the question again, and also I was scrolling up to see if posted anything before that made me come off as anti- woman.

[Ben Shapiro]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

All that Punk Rock music, and Miley Cyrus.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

All that Punk Rock music, and Miley Cyrus.

And that debbil marrywanna.

[Ben Shapiro]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

All that Punk Rock music, and Miley Cyrus.

And that debbil marrywanna.

Kraft Cheese.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I see that.  Thanks pointing out my monkey moment.

Everyone gets 'em.   

DOUR,
Prone to them, myself.

All that Punk Rock music, and Miley Cyrus.

And that debbil marrywanna.

Kraft Cheese.

I am a hopeless addict.   

[Cain]

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