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[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

The slope is only slippery if you hold a pissing match on it.

There's no pissing match here.

What Faust said.

To back up a couple of posts, I dunno, I disagree that the slippery slope metaphor is a fallacy, though I'm viewing it as that; a metaphor, not an argument. I'm glad that we agree on the basic premise of not censoring information simply because it's repulsive. Pretending that bad ideas don't exist isn't constructive.

[the last yatto]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

[Lies]

FREE SPEECH ISN'T FREE, IT COST THREE FIDDY

[Placid Dingo]

Actually, that's the whole point I've been making. This isn't such a free speech thing as an issue about limits of commercial products.

[the last yatto]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Kinda, its trying to highlight aussie law, plus amazon got free publicity

[Lies]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Kinda, its trying to highlight aussie law, plus amazon got free publicity

Looking at it this way, it's actually marketing genius. You know what they say, no such thing as bad publicity.

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Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Kinda, its trying to highlight aussie law, plus amazon got free publicity

Looking at it this way, it's actually marketing genius. You know what they say, no such thing as bad publicity.

In show business.

This isn't show business.

[Lies]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Kinda, its trying to highlight aussie law, plus amazon got free publicity

Looking at it this way, it's actually marketing genius. You know what they say, no such thing as bad publicity.

In show business.

This isn't show business.

I think in this case, it still applies.

[BadBeast]

I'm all in favour of free speech, but it seems that the American version of it seems to protect people from the consequences of whatever fucked up hateshit it is that they say. For instance, the Westboro Baptist fuckwits can stand outside dead soldiers funerals, and spew all that hate filled bullshit, but if, as a direct consequence of this, a group of Veterans turn up and stomp the shit out of them, then the Law will come down in favour of the Baptards. If you are going to allow free speech like this,then you must allow for any reasonable consequences that occur from it.  

[Rumckle]

The slope is only slippery if you hold a pissing match on it.

There's no pissing match here.

I'm not saying there is a pissing match at PD, I am saying regarding censorship and free speech in general there usually is.


That said, I can't remember exactly what point I was trying to make yesterday, so probably best just to ignore that for the time being.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

I'm all in favour of free speech, but it seems that the American version of it seems to protect people from the consequences of whatever fucked up hateshit it is that they say. For instance, the Westboro Baptist fuckwits can stand outside dead soldiers funerals, and spew all that hate filled bullshit, but if, as a direct consequence of this, a group of Veterans turn up and stomp the shit out of them, then the Law will come down in favour of the Baptards. If you are going to allow free speech like this,then you must allow for any reasonable consequences that occur from it.  

The problem is, who decides what is hate speech?

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm all in favour of free speech, but it seems that the American version of it seems to protect people from the consequences of whatever fucked up hateshit it is that they say. For instance, the Westboro Baptist fuckwits can stand outside dead soldiers funerals, and spew all that hate filled bullshit, but if, as a direct consequence of this, a group of Veterans turn up and stomp the shit out of them, then the Law will come down in favour of the Baptards. If you are going to allow free speech like this,then you must allow for any reasonable consequences that occur from it.  

No.

Do you realize that what you just said essentially justified violence against people who are saying something someone else doesn't like? "Reasonable consequences"? Really?

There is a difference between expression and violence, and the line is drawn there. A group of veterans would be free to come and stand with signs and counter-protest all they wanted, but not to physically attack the Westborotards.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Free speech isn't free if your making money on it

I hope you're just trying to be funny.

Kinda, its trying to highlight aussie law, plus amazon got free publicity

Looking at it this way, it's actually marketing genius. You know what they say, no such thing as bad publicity.

In show business.

This isn't show business.

I think in this case, it still applies.

Actually, bad publicity can be fatal for a retail merchant.

[Death]

I'm all in favour of free speech, but it seems that the American version of it seems to protect people from the consequences of whatever fucked up hateshit it is that they say. For instance, the Westboro Baptist fuckwits can stand outside dead soldiers funerals, and spew all that hate filled bullshit, but if, as a direct consequence of this, a group of Veterans turn up and stomp the shit out of them, then the Law will come down in favour of the Baptards. If you are going to allow free speech like this,then you must allow for any reasonable consequences that occur from it.  

Stomping the shit out of someone for something they say that you don't like is not a reasonable consequence.  They can be as ignorant and hateful as all get out, but you shouldn't be allowed to do violence to someone under that circumstance.  You still want to be able to hate on whoever you hate on without them having the right (or whatever) to come and hurt you don't you?