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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« Last post by LMNO on Today at 01:21:18 pm »
Because it involves atheism, which to some people provokes a knee-jerk reaction to interject "Yes, but..." regardless of the content.
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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« Last post by LMNO on Today at 01:19:33 pm »
Well, today's the day.  Or maybe it's Monday, since he's taking the weekend off.

Hopefully, my steel-tipped workboots will show up soon.
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Beyond the wall / Re: Do impossible thoughts exist?
« Last post by LMNO on Today at 01:18:06 pm »
"Mr. President, if a fake news site runs an article claiming a story to be fake news, does that constitute a double negative and therefore asserts the truthfulness of that news story?"
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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« Last post by LuciferX on Today at 07:03:55 am »
This was good writing why did it confuse everyone?

I have wondered that myself.

Me three.  Made me thinks of Abraham vs, Son viz. Kierkegaard:
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Like the terms “aesthetic” and “religious”, the term “ethics” in Kierkegaard’s work has more than one meaning. It is used to denote both: (i) a limited existential sphere, or stage, which is superseded by the higher stage of the religious life; and (ii) an aspect of life which is retained even within the religious life. In the first sense “ethics” is synonymous with the Hegelian notion of Sittlichkeit, or customary mores. In this sense “ethics” represents “the universal”, or more accurately the prevailing social norms. These social norms are used as reasons to make sense of, or justify, an action within a community. Even human sacrifice is justified in terms of how it serves the community, so that when Agamemnon sacrifices his daughter Iphigenia he is regarded as a tragic hero since his community understands that the sacrifice is required by the gods for the success of the Greek expedition to Troy (Fear and Trembling).

Kierkegaard, however, recognizes duties that cannot be justified in terms of social norms. Much of Fear and Trembling turns on the notion that Abraham’s would-be sacrifice of his son Isaac is ineffable in terms of social norms, and requires a “teleological suspension of the ethical”. That is, Abraham recognizes a duty to something higher than both his social duty not to kill an innocent person and his personal commitment to his beloved son, viz. his duty to obey God’s commands. However, he cannot give an intelligible ethical justification of his act to the community in terms of social norms, but must simply obey the divine command.

But in order to arrive at a position of religious faith, which might entail a “teleological suspension of the ethical”, the individual must first embrace the ethical (in the first sense). In order to raise oneself beyond the merely aesthetic life, which is a life of drifting in imagination, possibility and sensation, one needs to make a commitment. That is, the aesthete needs to choose the ethical, which entails a commitment to communication and decision procedures.
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/#Eth
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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« Last post by Mesozoic Mister Nigel on Today at 04:25:34 am »
This was good writing why did it confuse everyone?

I have wondered that myself.
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Literate Chaotic / The Foxhole With The Atheist
« Last post by Goddess Eris on Today at 02:44:45 am »
This was good writing why did it confuse everyone?


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Aneristic Illusions / General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Goddess Eris on Today at 02:31:50 am »
President Drumpf, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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Beyond the wall / Re: NYC cabal meet-up?!
« Last post by Goddess Eris on Today at 02:21:27 am »
Loling on the other side of the country


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Beyond the wall / Re: Do impossible thoughts exist?
« Last post by Cain on Today at 02:16:59 am »
How does the President intend to overcome Zeno's Paradox to make credible the threat of use of our nuclear missile systems?
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Beyond the wall / Re: Do impossible thoughts exist?
« Last post by The Good Reverend Roger on Today at 02:06:27 am »
Asking the hard questions here.  This is the kind of grueling inquisition that the press could only dream of.

Mr President, have you considered even if only somewhat?
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