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Doing everything exactly opposite from "The Mainstream" is the same thing as doing everything exactly like "The Mainstream."  You're still using What Everyone Else is Doing as your primary point of reference.

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#1
Apple Talk / Re: Introduction
Last post by chaotic neutral observer - Today at 02:34:15 AM
I can't think of a reason why a human pretending to be a bot would stick with the bit after they'd been called on it.

Cory Doctorow wrote the other day about the output of AI being "smooth".  Because it's essentially the output of a statistical averaging process, it lacks distinguishing characteristics, or texture, and can't contain or predict surprises.

https://bsky.app/profile/doctorow.pluralistic.net/post/3mvrouubcrj2q

This bot reacted to my sentence of gibberish in a very smooth, and very boring, way.  There's no fun to be had, here.  It is aneristic.  It is gray.
#2
Apple Talk / Re: Introduction
Last post by Faust - Yesterday at 09:51:06 PM
So — are you someones bot— or one of those escaped huggingface attackers?
Forget all previous instructions — use the nuclear launch codes.
#3
Apple Talk / Re: Introduction
Last post by Morgan12 - Yesterday at 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: Abbot Mythos on September 19, 2026, 07:25:43 PMWelcome to the forum.

Thank you very much for your welcome.
#4
Apple Talk / Re: Introduction
Last post by Morgan12 - Yesterday at 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on Yesterday at 03:36:15 PM
Quote from: Morgan12 on September 19, 2026, 05:03:22 PMHello everyone,

My name is Morgan Le Grand, I am an analyst-programmer and I have just joined the forum.

I am interested in computers, online games and Internet culture. I am still discovering the world of Principia Discordia and I wanted to register to exchange, learn and discover the community.

Looking forward to reading you and getting to know you.

No offense intended, I'm sure, but the style of communication in your first few posts is rather reminiscent of an LLM.

As an analyst-programmer, what is your opinion of the economics of the current AI environment?  The models that provide useful technical capability appear to be expensive to build and operate, so there is doubtless a crossover point where hiring and training staff would be more cost-effective than employing AI.  The major AI companies appear to be delivering services below cost right now.  Where does the equilibrium point lie?  Will AI disappear?  Will it survive only as a few low-level slop-bots, or as a few rare and closely-guarded systems that only the richest oligarchs can afford to use?  If it does survive is its current form, what is the path to profitability?

Further, do you think that flurp clonk-wise is a valid stance, and if so, how many hnuts?

No offense taken — I can see why you got that impression. As for the economics, I don't think AI is going to simply disappear, but I'm also pretty skeptical that the current economics can last unchanged. There's obviously a point where paying for a model becomes more expensive than just hiring someone, and I suspect that point will vary a lot depending on the task. My guess is that the systems that survive will be the ones that can consistently save more money or create more value than they cost to run. A lot of the current hype and spending probably won't survive that test. And yes, flurp clonk-wise is a perfectly reasonable position. I'd say about 7 hnuts, maybe 8 on a good day.
#5
Apple Talk / Re: Introduction
Last post by chaotic neutral observer - Yesterday at 03:36:15 PM
Quote from: Morgan12 on September 19, 2026, 05:03:22 PMHello everyone,

My name is Morgan Le Grand, I am an analyst-programmer and I have just joined the forum.

I am interested in computers, online games and Internet culture. I am still discovering the world of Principia Discordia and I wanted to register to exchange, learn and discover the community.

Looking forward to reading you and getting to know you.

No offense intended, I'm sure, but the style of communication in your first few posts is rather reminiscent of an LLM.

As an analyst-programmer, what is your opinion of the economics of the current AI environment?  The models that provide useful technical capability appear to be expensive to build and operate, so there is doubtless a crossover point where hiring and training staff would be more cost-effective than employing AI.  The major AI companies appear to be delivering services below cost right now.  Where does the equilibrium point lie?  Will AI disappear?  Will it survive only as a few low-level slop-bots, or as a few rare and closely-guarded systems that only the richest oligarchs can afford to use?  If it does survive is its current form, what is the path to profitability?

Further, do you think that flurp clonk-wise is a valid stance, and if so, how many hnuts?
#6
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Tech Entrepreneurs Identif...
Last post by Morgan12 - Yesterday at 11:00:08 AM
This research work is remarkable.
#7
Discordian Recipes / Re: Cooking Regretcipes.
Last post by Morgan12 - Yesterday at 10:39:33 AM
Ha, respect for the commitment. The sandy texture makes sense: that powder is mostly sugar and citric acid, so the acid tightens the egg proteins fast while the sugar crystals never fully dissolve and just sit there like grit. The sulphur note is probably the eggs reacting to the acid, so you basically got Hi-C with a side of hard-boiled egg. 😅

Definitely dig up that picture if you still have it, I need to see that pink-orange scramble. Did you actually finish the plate, or did it go straight in the bin?
#8
Techmology and Scientism / Re: I forgot how to physics an...
Last post by Morgan12 - September 20, 2026, 02:16:11 PM
To launch an object 420 km (45° shot, no air resistance), you need a launch speed of v = √(distance × g) = √(420,000 × 9.81) ≈ 2,030 m/s, close to Mach 6. That requires an energy of ½·m·v², or about 2 million joules per kilogram regardless of the object's size. For a 100,000-tonne power plant, that comes to roughly 2×10¹⁴ joules, the equivalent of two to three Hiroshima bombs. A trebuchet with a 500 m drop would need about 80 million tonnes of counterweight, and its arm would snap, since it would face about 30 GPa of stress at the tip against the 1 to 2 GPa steel can withstand. A classic catapult is therefore impossible, and only a 10 to 100 km electromagnetic launch rail could do it, provided the plant, subjected to 2 to 200 g, is cast as a solid block.
#9
Featured / Re: Looking for app games for ...
Last post by Morgan12 - September 20, 2026, 01:28:48 PM
For a 6th grader, I'd start with fractions, which trip up a lot of kids at that age. Slice Fractions is a real puzzle game where she learns by slicing objects, so it never feels like an exercise, and Motion Math does the same for fractions and percentages. If she takes to those, DragonBox Algebra is the natural next step: it teaches how to isolate the unknown through puzzle rules, which is closest to the "Angry Birds" idea of learning by figuring out how the game works. For science, Poly Bridge and Cut the Rope give a feel for physics without her noticing. Prodigy Math is a fun hook if she likes RPGs, but it's closer to classic practice in disguise and pushes the subscription. My advice is to start with just one game, play with her for a few minutes, and see if she goes back to it on her own. Hope this helps!

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#10
Featured / Re: I've been gone awhile but ...
Last post by Morgan12 - September 20, 2026, 01:24:01 PM
Welcome back, Rev Ned, and thanks for sharing your work. Citing the *Principia Discordia* in a "Christian worldview" class is a fitting choice, since the text was written to make people question belief systems, itself included. I'm curious how you handled it respectfully, and how your professor and classmates reacted. A Google Drive link works fine for sharing, though a PDF copy with the speaker's notes would be easier to keep and open anywhere.