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Or Kill Me / Re: We have to be ready to fight.
« Last post by Bird Daughter on Today at 08:29:18 pm »
I don't know if you mean 'fight' in a physical sense so forgive me if this is off topic, but this reminds me of a video I saw addressing people who think you can use pacifism towards violent oppressors ('terrorism' in this context just means 'militancy').
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25G_YO-S38

They say we need to think about the real world consequences of our violence. I say they need to consider the consequences of inaction towards large scale violence against innocents like law and wage slavery. We should try to use as little violence as possible, but most oppressors are not going to be convinced to give up their positions by talking to them. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but we need to have some real tactics prepared and with the threats of global warming, nuclear war, and day to day death and suffering, the window for conversation is rapidly closing.

The idea that set this thing off in my head was a story I heard about a relatively open, tolerant, LGBTQ+weirdoes-friendly online community that got infiltrated by alt-right douchebros, and when they finally revealed themselves the natives gave up and ceded the virtual territory. Personally, I think the distinction between punching someone and doxxing someone can't be described in terms of one being violent and the other being non-violent. I think it's wrong to have a definition of violence that begins and ends with "directly causing physical harm to the body of another human." Taking away someone's health coverage so they die is violent. Coaxing someone who is depressed and in crisis into killing themselves is violent. Refusing to convict vigilantes and police officers for killing black people is violent. Getting someone fired from their job for saying racist/sexist shit on twitter is violent.

I don't think violence in and of itself is wrong. I think there are varying degrees of violence and the most pragmatic way of dealing with the world is to be as non-violent as possible while protecting the space you take up, and defending the space of others if they are unable to protect themselves.

There's a poem I wrote a while back under the title "girl at the punk show" that I think is relevant here. I grew up in a very liberal town, with very passive (as in "non-violent") liberal parents. I grew up with the standard "violence is hitting people" definition, and I generally tried to be a good kid. So a few years back, when I went to my first punk show, it was bizarrely liberating to be in a space where shoving, hitting, and punching were not violence. At least, not an unacceptable kind of violence. If you want to hold your ground in that environment, you are going to have to fight for it, and everyone in that space by the stage knows this and accepts these rules of engagement.

Once you get your head around that, you can start looking at the world less in punching vs. not-punching and more in terms of appropriate force, escalation vs. de-escalation, and the right tool for the job.

I live in an extremely conservative town, I used to know a muslim kid at school who would get harassed everyday, being called a terrorist and that kind of thing. It might mot seem much the way I'm wording it but it was really bad, he endured a lot of psychological damage. One day he swung a punch at one of their faces and was expelled.

Perhaps we could take advantage of the fact that indirect violence is not seen as violence. Usually it flows from the powerful to the weak, but I'm sure we could find a way to target the ruling class in a violent campaign without gaining them sympathy or even notoriety. The question is how to utilize that in a useful way. Cyber attacks are one idea, but I think most people by now appreciate their impact.
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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by Rococo Modem Basilisk on Today at 08:18:46 pm »
In a world where only postmenopausal childless women are allowed to be in positions of political power, scandals surround black market adoption fencing rings. A young lady journalist attempts to investigate but this is made difficult by the fact that corruption in this world is largely related to sexual favors between lesbians who prefer older women, and she must ally herself with an older would-be whistleblower with a dark past whose motivations are unclear but who is sixty-five and therefore more attractive.
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Or Kill Me / Re: We have to be ready to fight.
« Last post by Q. G. Pennyworth on Today at 04:48:42 pm »
I don't know if you mean 'fight' in a physical sense so forgive me if this is off topic, but this reminds me of a video I saw addressing people who think you can use pacifism towards violent oppressors ('terrorism' in this context just means 'militancy').
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A25G_YO-S38

They say we need to think about the real world consequences of our violence. I say they need to consider the consequences of inaction towards large scale violence against innocents like law and wage slavery. We should try to use as little violence as possible, but most oppressors are not going to be convinced to give up their positions by talking to them. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but we need to have some real tactics prepared and with the threats of global warming, nuclear war, and day to day death and suffering, the window for conversation is rapidly closing.

The idea that set this thing off in my head was a story I heard about a relatively open, tolerant, LGBTQ+weirdoes-friendly online community that got infiltrated by alt-right douchebros, and when they finally revealed themselves the natives gave up and ceded the virtual territory. Personally, I think the distinction between punching someone and doxxing someone can't be described in terms of one being violent and the other being non-violent. I think it's wrong to have a definition of violence that begins and ends with "directly causing physical harm to the body of another human." Taking away someone's health coverage so they die is violent. Coaxing someone who is depressed and in crisis into killing themselves is violent. Refusing to convict vigilantes and police officers for killing black people is violent. Getting someone fired from their job for saying racist/sexist shit on twitter is violent.

I don't think violence in and of itself is wrong. I think there are varying degrees of violence and the most pragmatic way of dealing with the world is to be as non-violent as possible while protecting the space you take up, and defending the space of others if they are unable to protect themselves.

There's a poem I wrote a while back under the title "girl at the punk show" that I think is relevant here. I grew up in a very liberal town, with very passive (as in "non-violent") liberal parents. I grew up with the standard "violence is hitting people" definition, and I generally tried to be a good kid. So a few years back, when I went to my first punk show, it was bizarrely liberating to be in a space where shoving, hitting, and punching were not violence. At least, not an unacceptable kind of violence. If you want to hold your ground in that environment, you are going to have to fight for it, and everyone in that space by the stage knows this and accepts these rules of engagement.

Once you get your head around that, you can start looking at the world less in punching vs. not-punching and more in terms of appropriate force, escalation vs. de-escalation, and the right tool for the job.
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What I don't understand is why the true enemy if the forum goes completely unchallenged. I am of course, talking about the walking horrorshow that is EOC.

I think we should all stop, take a moment and reflect on what an utter bastard this man is. He's swindled Mexicans out of pesos. Dollars out of you. Orphans out of orphanariums into his mercury mines. Pensions from the old, pocket money from the poor and this MOTHERFUCKER owes me 50. His evil knows no bounds, his avarice a thing of legend. Reliable sources claim he invented herpes as a practical joke and syphilis as a party game.

He is responsible for swapping Iran and Iraq on maps and laughing because no one notices. He has kicked cats, stolen dogs and eaten parrots. He taught fritzel DIY and Fred west how to lay concrete. He told idi how tasty longpig is. He's responsible for ALL the Bert and Ernie rumors and spread them while pretending to be big bird.

The list of objects he cannot legally be left alone with include turnips, hamsters, garden rakes and jars. You've seen what happens when this is ignored, it's incredible and disgusting.

So please, I implore you all, just stop for a moment and tell eoc what a horrible human he is.
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Bring and Brag / Re: P3nT's Shoops
« Last post by P3nT4gR4m on Today at 07:15:43 am »
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Well, this is... something I guess?

www.trumpcarequotes.com

Odds on him being in on the scam?   :lulz:
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Trivial on Today at 05:52:31 am »
Well, this is... something I guess?

www.trumpcarequotes.com
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Or Kill Me / Re: REJOICE!
« Last post by The Good Reverend Roger on Today at 05:45:18 am »
REJOICE!

You are the persecuted ones.

You will never be accepted.

You will never be initiated with the
rites of power.

You will never be permitted into the
caste of the ruling classes.

You will be persecuted until the ends
of time.

REJOICE!

Unlike the Christian Church, which rose
from persecuted to persecutor, you will
never be empowered, never be
authorized, never be in charge.

You are persecuted. You will always be
persecuted.

You will be branded heretic.

You will be denounced from the pulpit
and the television screen.

You will be scrutinized by civilization
and found lacking in virtue.

You will be swept up with the devil's
debris.

REJOICE!

Unlike Al-Qaeda, which rose from
obscurity to celebrity, you will never
be considered, never be feared, never
suffer from delusions of grandeur.

You are in the minority. You will
always be in the minority.

You will be passed over, discarded,
downsized, disposed, and trashed.

You will be dismissed as an
irrelevancy.

No one will come to your aid.

You are alone.

REJOICE!

Unlike everyone else, who rises from
proletarian to consumerist machine, you
will never be programmed, never be
brainwashed, never be owned.

For you swim against the stream, you
are strong.

You are the lone voice in a
materialistic wilderness.

You are the crazed prophet.

You are the voice of irrationality in a
world of brutalizing sanity.

You are the pavement cracks.

You are the lost stuff of history.

You are not of what they are.

And for that you will be unmercifully
hounded like the rats of the black
plague.

REJOICE!

Take comfort.

For you are the persecuted ones.


12 year bump.
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I think I might have missed those. I remember having to ask just what it is those were about.

The second last one is why you bailed for a while.

The last one was the one she wrote about gaslighting 20 minutes after she tried to gaslight me.   :lulz:
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Bring and Brag / MADMAN
« Last post by Bobby Campbell on Today at 04:58:34 am »
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