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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:31:25 pm »
ITT, the scene in Where the Red Fern Grows where the raccoon gets caught in that trap with a tiny piece of metal on the inside, and he could get free if he just let go of that little piece of metal, but he can't because he's a raccoon.
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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:29:55 pm »
Remember, kids, rights to criticized are earned.
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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Mesozoic Mister Nigel on Today at 05:28:29 pm »
I'm still having some trouble pinning down where in his history he's earned his right to criticize anyone at all.

I just have to return to this mind-boggling shitshow of a post for one moment, to ask what kinds of credentials a person needs in order to earn the right to be critical.

What are your credentials?

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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:26:39 pm »
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I'm still having some trouble pinning down where in his history he's earned his right to criticize anyone at all.

Maybe you want to re-read that sentence a few times. Maybe print it out and put it above your workstation.

Still having trouble? I will break it down then.

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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Mesozoic Mister Nigel on Today at 05:23:12 pm »
I'm against knee-jerk reactionism

HOLY SHIT you think that punching Nazis is "knee-jerk reactionism"???? 

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT NAZIS ARE?

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and think that the thing needs to be done with a better doctrine than the OP document implies.

Uhhhhhhhh so you aren't opposed to punching Nazis, you just think that there needs to be a better ideology  than "fuck off, you Nazis"? Are you for fucking real here, what even

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There has to be hope behind the rage.

Going WAAYYYYYYY out on a limb here, but I suspect that maybe, JUST MAYBE, the hope is that we will not be overrun by Nazis and their genocidal agenda.

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Perhaps, if you have not, please read Mr. Ellis' stuff and please tell me what you think on it. I'm still having some trouble pinning down where in his history he's earned his right to criticize anyone at all.


Sure, I definitely have time to do a bunch of superfluous reading and analysis for you so that I can spoonfeed you an informed opinion.

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I'm not willfully ignorant. I'm working on remedying it. Give me time and you'll see it, but don't think that I'm some fluffy piece of wonderbread either. I'm not.

Prove it. It's been over 96 hours, which in my world is plenty of time to get middling-deep in articles.

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Sure. I get that, but don't think that's the way to do it because it's broadly dismissive to just say he was full of shit. I don't worship at some paper idol, as is common admittedly. I don't think this "memebomb" is well built or well tatgeted.

You keep repeating that you don't think it's a good point, or an effective one. I do. Gogira does. Salty does. Vex does. Xaz does. Coyote does. LMNO does. I wonder if it's possible that we are all seeing aspects to this that you don't see, or if it's simply that you are the only thinking person in a world of sheep?
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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Mesozoic Mister Nigel on Today at 05:13:41 pm »
I didn't get the impression that MLK was being broadly dismissed at all. He is invoked because he is a sacred cow of Polite America, and the piece surgically targets his assertion that there is some moral arc of the universe bending toward justice -- a flowery, inspirational notion that unfortunately has no basis in reality -- for its criticism. And it is wholly appropriate, especially now, when we have this weird debate over whether it's okay to punch Nazis, as if they are the victims here. Ten years ago, few people were out looking to punch Nazis because it was generally accepted that if a Nazi were to venture out from under the rock in Idaho where they swarm like cockroaches, the inevitable result would be.... that they would get punched. Indeed, in Nigel's brief history of Portland, we see that punching Nazis is a time-honored tradition, and for good reason.

Nazis, and all white supremacists, exist for the singular purpose of inflicting violence on others as soon as they have any opportunity. Their violence predates any fists that may come their way, and in fact they are already guilty of a committing kind of violence in this present historical episode just by showing their faces in daylight and intimidating their targets by their suddenly ubiquitous presence on social media, television, and rallies. The notion that we must wait for them to fire up the gas chambers and load people onto trains is itself violent, in that it assumes some number of victims must be expended before we can justify saving others. The fact that we are even debating this is ludicrous.

Also, this.
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Principia Discussion / Re: Which age are we in?
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:12:21 pm »
That's very nice, thank you, OG. I fixed a typo so it reads "and a lack..."
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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:09:57 pm »
Sure I get that.
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I don't get that.
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Principia Discussion / Re: Which age are we in?
« Last post by Salty on Today at 05:04:49 pm »
Wouldn't the new testament of discordianism be the books of the subgenius?

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Propaganda Depository / Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Last post by tyrannosaurus vex on Today at 05:00:15 pm »
I didn't get the impression that MLK was being broadly dismissed at all. He is invoked because he is a sacred cow of Polite America, and the piece surgically targets his assertion that there is some moral arc of the universe bending toward justice -- a flowery, inspirational notion that unfortunately has no basis in reality -- for its criticism. And it is wholly appropriate, especially now, when we have this weird debate over whether it's okay to punch Nazis, as if they are the victims here. Ten years ago, few people were out looking to punch Nazis because it was generally accepted that if a Nazi were to venture out from under the rock in Idaho where they swarm like cockroaches, the inevitable result would be.... that they would get punched. Indeed, in Nigel's brief history of Portland, we see that punching Nazis is a time-honored tradition, and for good reason.

Nazis, and all white supremacists, exist for the singular purpose of inflicting violence on others as soon as they have any opportunity. Their violence predates any fists that may come their way, and in fact they are already guilty of a committing kind of violence in this present historical episode just by showing their faces in daylight and intimidating their targets by their suddenly ubiquitous presence on social media, television, and rallies. The notion that we must wait for them to fire up the gas chambers and load people onto trains is itself violent, in that it assumes some number of victims must be expended before we can justify saving others. The fact that we are even debating this is ludicrous.
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