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Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« Last post by Prelate Diogenes Shandor on December 12, 2017, 04:17:29 am »
The infant Jesus is visited by three wise men. Unfortunately for him one of them is Richard Dawkins, who ushows that the "angels" are really guys in masks like the villain from a Scooby Doo cartoon, thus prompting the other wise men to take their gold and frankincense back.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« Last post by Junkenstein on December 11, 2017, 11:01:43 pm »
Putin announced intention to stand for re-election in 2018.

In other news, Putin wins 2018 election.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by Freeky on December 11, 2017, 10:34:07 pm »
I'm being made to do online training.  About radicalisation.

I'm actually doing the test, mostly for the lolz, but I'll be damned if I'm emailing my certificate to the training coordinator, when I have an entire thesis on this topic.

This is dumb as fuck. your supervisors prove yet again that they are incompetent toolbags.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by Chelagoras The Boulder on December 11, 2017, 10:16:05 pm »
So I went to a diabetes class this past weekend and they clarified that , no, no matter now low glycemic wine and spirits are, metformin plus alcohol equals hospital visit. So that was a fun illusion while it lasted.
Men are trash.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by MMIX on December 11, 2017, 08:26:35 pm »
Yep, that sounds about right
I don't have much to add here at this point in time, but I did want to pop in to say THANK YOU to those contributing to this conversation, which strikes me as critical in light of the current zeitgeist. Excellent, excellent food for thought here.
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Snippets From My Talks On "De Facto Attacks on Free Speech"
« Last post by Cramulus on December 11, 2017, 03:04:18 pm »
I think you've hit something, here.

So the premise, above, is that we are getting collectively dumber because we communicate via a medium which rejects complexity. And the solution is to become individual processing units which can handle complexity. Kinda like calling for a return to the longform post.

You're right in that you're looking at the right spot, the individual, and how it functions poorly as a micro-component of a larger processing routine. Like Foucault says -- the (french/american) revolution decentralized power. Now we're in a mode of power where authority is distributed to individuals, evenly spread, and that makes society ridiculously hard to change. Because you can't just go shake up the leaders, they are merely channels for the public will. The fabric of society isn't dictated from above anymore, but from below. And a lot of those people are either stupid or evil, enough of them to be a powerful voting bloc.

However I don't think the longform post is coming back. I think the social-media medium inherently boils ideas down to haiku form, that's just a feature of information traveling through an attention economy. It's like a river gradually moving rocks. The tiny stones move, the heavy stones sink.

But the silver lining is that brevity does not mean simplicity! A complex idea can be boiled down to dense symbols. This compression is lossy, of course. As compression/density increases, you lose resolution.

The trick, in my mind, is how to communicate complexity in simple terms. How do you signal a complex argument in a soundbyte?

Like, take the term "problematic" - it's a short hand, it indicates the presence of complexity without unpacking it.

Or describing an argument as "reductive" indicates that the compression is too lossy.

I also think about Wilson's "sumbunall" / "mosbunall"- it's just a contraction of some-but-not-all / most-but-not-all - but aims to sidestep a super common argument pattern. You criticize men's behavior, a man will take it personally and go "Not all men!" and then you have to unpack that. But if you started with "Some but not all men do XYZ", then the listener is less likely to parse the criticism as a personal judgment and get all defensive about it.

So maybe there are other linguistic tools and shorthand that can help us discuss complex topics without getting pulled into the typical blue/green loops.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by Cain on December 11, 2017, 02:48:25 pm »
A really small, metallic cupboard with an elaborate lock.
Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« Last post by MMIX on December 11, 2017, 02:38:22 pm »
LOL Cain. Your secret santa has a really weird sense of humour.
also Is it really appropriate to call it a safe if it isn't locked? Its actually just a cupboard.
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