Rev Roger, Flyer #5

[The Good Reverend Roger]

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED?
Written in the spirit by The Good Reverend Roger.

Well?  What happened?  When did America turn into a huge collection of sissies, begging for our rights to be repealed for our "protection"?  That's not America!  That's China, or North Korea.  What the HELL are we doing?  

So far, we've pretty much tossed away our entire bill of rights, along with most of the rest of the US constitution.  Warrantless wiretaps, no-knock warrants, a bag full of useless wars that not even the PRESIDENT can properly explain, torture, suspension of habeus corpus...the list goes on and on.

Don't mind that grinding noise, America...That's just George Washington grinding his wooden choppers in his grave.

And don't even think of blaming your government, people.  Because, hey, who the hell elected them?  Who stood by while "both" parties stripped away our sacred liberties?  Who?

That's right.  It was YOU, Bubba.  Shame on you.  Shame on you for pissing on the graves of our founding fathers.  Shame on you for wanting to be slaves.  And now you are finally getting the government you deserve.

Or Kill Me.

[Prickly]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

[Triple Zero]

Because, hey, who the hell elected them?

??? i wouldn't have expected you to say this? did you ever take a good look at this four-yearly Reality TV Show you just called elections?

i'm not really a big fan of democracy per se : the regular kind, majority-vote style thing, not the Democracy(TM) that goes along with the USA-brand of Freedom(TM) cause i don't really agree with the notion of "hey the majority wants it, so it's HAS to be a good idea, right?" (have you ever seen a larger collection of stupidity than the majority of the people )

anyway that's besides the point i wanted to make. now, i don't want to come off as the stereotypical eurotrash bitching on the usa, but just know that i'm not claiming that it's any better over here. (just different)

now as far as i understand elections in the usa, you got two choices, either Democrat or Republican. and as far as i understand it, they're both the Wrong Choice anyway (sometimes i hear people even say they're basically the same party anyway -- like that futurama episode where they could vote for two identical clones), so people tend to vote for the lesser evil.

now you say that people elected their government in the usa and that it's their own fault? while all the choice they got is basically worthless? would you like the puppet on the left or the puppet on the right? that's like saying that the democratic people's party in china (or whatever it's called) is chosen by the people and their own fault (ok, the chinese propaganda does in fact state this and fabricates elections with one choice etc) .. and several other countries which are usually deemed as "dictatorships" instead of "democracies", even while they make the claim.

also, in another thread i heard you say something about -- what was it? this federal reserve thing? so the government chooses who rules the "private" federal reserve who distributes the money in a way which benefits the large corporations who buy out the political campaigns/brainwashings/propaganda/lies/stuff and control the politicians that are elected (no matter who gets elected) that make up the government which chooses .. etc etc

explain me please, where do the people come in? how exactly is this bubba's fault and not that of the suprahuman corporate entities that you choose to name The Machine?
and yes i understand Bubba makes up a tiny cogwheel in this machine, but it's not the cogwheels that decide what the machine is doing, in the same way it's not my cells that get to decide what i'll be doing, but it's the shape/the structure/the programming of the entire system that decides the direction in which it is going.
in much the same way as i don't give a shit about what happens to my body cells, as long as not a great many of them die out and disrupt my system, do the corporate entities not give a shit about the people that make it up. but you don't hear me claiming that my cells "got the brain they deserved", because that's bullshit, it's meaningless to make such a statement.
and that's my motivation for chaos, disorder. if you want to give the cells or the cogwheels back their freedom, have them fuck it up until the machine/body falls apart, and then keep on fucking it up or otherwise a new machine/body will arise. anyway now i'm drifting a bit. i hope you got my point.

one last thing. there are these "third parties", right? like, you can - theoretically - choose for something else than democrat or republican.
why the fuck don't people do that? are those parties invisible to them like the fnords?
over here we got loads of different parties. usually a ruling coalition consists of three of them, and not always the same ones either. not that it matters much as long as the Christians and the Liberals ("liberal" means "right wing conservative" over here, btw) keep fucking it up, but it at least gives a littlebit of meaning to the concept of democracy and elections. (and i'd be happy for that, weren't it for my first objection about the dumbness of majority vote for groups larger than about 20-150)

[LMNO]

Bubba makes up a tiny cogwheel in this machine, but it's not the cogwheels that decide what the machine is doing

but Bubba's letting it happen, and isn't doing anything about it.

[Bella]

now as far as i understand elections in the usa, you got two choices, either Democrat or Republican. and as far as i understand it, they're both the Wrong Choice anyway (sometimes i hear people even say they're basically the same party anyway -- like that futurama episode where they could vote for two identical clones), so people tend to vote for the lesser evil.



now you say that people elected their government in the usa and that it's their own fault? while all the choice they got is basically worthless? would you like the puppet on the left or the puppet on the right? that's like saying that the democratic people's party in china (or whatever it's called) is chosen by the people and their own fault (ok, the chinese propaganda does in fact state this and fabricates elections with one choice etc) .. and several other countries which are usually deemed as "dictatorships" instead of "democracies", even while they make the claim.


one last thing. there are these "third parties", right? like, you can - theoretically - choose for something else than democrat or republican.
why the fuck don't people do that? are those parties invisible to them like the  ?

More people here would vote for the third, fourth, fifth parties, triple z - except that they don't truly understand the concept of puppet #1 and puppet #2. So they're afraid that if they vote for the third party they are in fact helping whichever puppet they least like get into office. And sometimes they are right.  At times, we Amurricans are truly faced with a lesser evil and a much greater evil and in those cases, it's a really good idea to vote for one of the puppet party candidates.

Other times, however, the two candidates are pretty much even and that's when it's practical to vote for whichever party you most believe in. Even if your political party of choice doesn't win the election they can get government funded monies to use towards the next election if they receive at least 5% of the votes. And this is one way someone's individual vote can be of real use.  

My personal experience has been that I almost never ever vote for the person who's going to win anyway, so now I vote my conscience.

[LMNO]

I'm with you.


A third opinion, even if it's completely wack *coughPerotcough* is always a good thing in terms of debate and understanding of issues.

[East Coast Hustle]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

     
     
     

...libertarians.....

 
       
 
   
 
     
         
 
 


     












 


ECH,
knows that if the libertarians had their way, they'd get exactly what they deserve

[Bella]

Our District Attorney is Libertarian.

It's really played havoc with the legal system in this county.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

Yeah, I hate roads, schools, and national parks, too.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Because, hey, who the hell elected them?

??? i wouldn't have expected you to say this? did you ever take a good look at this four-yearly Reality TV Show you just called elections?

Oh, yes, yes indeed.

But did you conveniently leave off the second clause of that sentence?  

You betcha.

TGRR,
Thinks he may have to start typing slower, for the reading impaired.

[B_M_W]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

Libertarian is just another name for Suck.

Same as Democrat or Republican.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

Libertarian is just another name for Suck.

Same as Democrat or Republican.

Well, actually, it's another name for "suck harder".

The LP is basically for people who don't think the GOP/Dem combine is fucking them hard enough.

[B_M_W]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

Libertarian is just another name for Suck.

Same as Democrat or Republican.

Well, actually, it's another name for "suck harder".

The LP is basically for people who don't think the GOP/Dem combine is fucking them hard enough.

Yeah, I like the part you threw out there about hating roads, schools and national parks. Sure seems that way.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

<- Active participant in the revolution.

Libertarian is just another name for Suck.

Same as Democrat or Republican.

Well, actually, it's another name for "suck harder".

The LP is basically for people who don't think the GOP/Dem combine is fucking them hard enough.

Yeah, I like the part you threw out there about hating roads, schools and national parks. Sure seems that way.

And while we're at it, let's just remove the very few protections the common man has with regard to corporations.

Because the Free Market,Ñ¢ loves us, and will take care of us.  Or we'll starve.  Either way, the corporations win.

Fuck the libertarian party.  If I wanted to be fucked in the ass by corporations, I'd just reenlist in the military and fight for Halliburton's bottom line.

[LMNO]

This reminds me of a new yorker cartoon... A sign in a busines window:



"It's the 'bitch slapped by the invisible hand' liquidation sale!"