Prison Bans Books and Disco Pickle Learns a Lesson

[Luna]

well, they don't really have a forum like this place, so the potential for teh funnay is lower.  You'd probably do better here:

http://www.dancarlin.com/phpbb3/ though not distinctly libertarian

also this place: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewforum.php?f=20

has a pretty interesting if simple game where you make your own nation.  The forums are full of all sorts.

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

http://reason.com/archives/2003/12/01/live-from-chapel-perilous



Though it does have one of my favorite quotes:

"Around 1973 I became convinced for a while that I was receiving messages from outer space," he informs us in Maybe Logic. "But then a psychic reader told me that I was actually channeling an ancient Chinese philosopher. And another psychic reader told me I was channeling a medieval Irish bard. And at that time I started reading neurology and I decided it was just my right brain talking to my left brain. And then I went to Ireland and discovered it was actually a six-foot-tall white rabbit -- they call it the pooka."

[Disco Pickle]

http://reason.com/archives/2003/12/01/live-from-chapel-perilous

they've got a few articles on discordia as well.  I'll see if I can find the links when I get home.

[East Coast Hustle]

what we have now, while flawed, still has checks and balances that help to prevent this sort of thing and is also fluid and able to be changed over time when mistakes are identified.

you're still operating under the false premise that the system, as it currenty exists, is something other than EXACTLY what it was intended to be. Those "checks and balances" are a lie, and nobody who has any degree of control over how the system is shaped has any interest in making changes that you or I would regard as improvements. In fact, they have a heavily vested interest in NOT making any of those sorts of changes.

I'm willing to accept that change in perspective, as fucking bleak as it is.  

I ordinarily HATE this phrase, but...


It is what it is.

[Disco Pickle]

what we have now, while flawed, still has checks and balances that help to prevent this sort of thing and is also fluid and able to be changed over time when mistakes are identified.

you're still operating under the false premise that the system, as it currenty exists, is something other than EXACTLY what it was intended to be. Those "checks and balances" are a lie, and nobody who has any degree of control over how the system is shaped has any interest in making changes that you or I would regard as improvements. In fact, they have a heavily vested interest in NOT making any of those sorts of changes.

I'm willing to accept that change in perspective, as fucking bleak as it is.  

I ordinarily HATE this phrase, but...


It is what it is.

what, change in perspective?  I almost used "paradigm shift" then thought better of it.  I recall Prometheus Rising mentioning changing your view based on new information, but I can't honestly remember exactly where I first learned the concept.  Wherever it was, it's proved to be a valuable trait to have.

[Triple Zero]

I think he referred to "it is what it is".

[Disco Pickle]

I think he referred to "it is what it is".

oh, right.  I should read more slowly.

[LMNO]

This is resolving itself in a fairly civilized way. Kudos to all involved.

[Eater of Clowns]

This is resolving itself in a fairly civilized way. Kudos to all involved.  You cunts.

Emphasis LMNO's.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

what we have now, while flawed, still has checks and balances that help to prevent this sort of thing and is also fluid and able to be changed over time when mistakes are identified.

you're still operating under the false premise that the system, as it currenty exists, is something other than EXACTLY what it was intended to be. Those "checks and balances" are a lie, and nobody who has any degree of control over how the system is shaped has any interest in making changes that you or I would regard as improvements. In fact, they have a heavily vested interest in NOT making any of those sorts of changes.

I'm willing to accept that change in perspective, as fucking bleak as it is.  

I ordinarily HATE this phrase, but...


It is what it is.

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

This is resolving itself in a fairly civilized way. Kudos to all involved.  You cunts.

Emphasis LMNO's.

It did resolve nicely.

 

[Phox]

Wait a minute! I'm not done being all self-righteousy and pissed off! Damn you Pickles! Why do you have to be so reasonable?! 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

 

[Disco Pickle]

Wait a minute! I'm not done being all self-righteousy and pissed off! Damn you Pickles! Why do you have to be so reasonable?!  

I may be subconsciously doing it only to get under your skin Phoxy.  

I do often take the devil's advocate side of a discussion in order to draw out ideas I might not have heard, but it's never with the intention of pissing people off.  I have found it often does, but I only do it with people who I know will bring real ideas to the discussion.  Still manages to piss of my buddies when I do it over beers and a table.  

It's not that I don't even believe my own bullshit, I just learn more when I take an unpopular position.  Could be the debate classes I took in school that influences me to do it.

I've learned quite a bit ITT about what you guys think about legal systems.  I appreciate the input and have a lot to think on.  I was hoping for more ideas on a better way, but I'm beginning to realize that's not what discordia is about.  

I didn't really intend for anyone to be frothing at the mouth to correct the pickle with the wrong values, it just sort of snowballed into that.

[Prince Glittersnatch III]

SO HOW BOUT THEM PRISONS.

I HEAR THEYRE BANNING BOOKS.

STRANGE TIMES WE LIVE IN.