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Re: Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #495 on: July 30, 2020, 04:29:01 pm »
Not a pretty way to go.

The people who homeschool in the face of the pandemic will survive, the ones who don't may lose family members. It will suck and it will have resounding consequences. Homeschooling, it's not just for weird Libertarians anymore.


Then there will be families who simply can't, since our economy is based on using school as childcare (and healthcare, and food security) while the parents work.  Especially people on the low end of the "economic inequality" equation.

And because of historical racial inequality, that means more BIPOC will die, statistically.

So basically, Steve Miller has a constant hardon these days.
Yep, bc both parents and the kids will constantly be exposed and schools are petri dishes at the best of times. Then there's the issue of access for districts that DO do distance learning. Devices can be provided but internet connection will have to be cobbled together ad hoc. My district is rolling out its own internet. We're the fourth or fifth largest school district in the state with a larger surplus, so wrt have the resources to pull for an emergency like this but a ton of others won't.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #496 on: July 31, 2020, 03:20:19 am »
Herman Cain just died of Covid.

Well, he's not fed up anymore, and that should count for something.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #497 on: August 01, 2020, 09:37:42 pm »
How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

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"Six months into the pandemic, the United States continues to suffer the worst outbreak of COVID-19 in the developed world. Considerable blame belongs to a federal response that offloaded responsibility for the crucial task of testing to the states. The irony is that, after assembling the team that came up with an aggressive and ambitious national testing plan, Kushner then appears to have decided, for reasons that remain murky, to scrap its proposal.
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Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said."

They left us to fucking die in the name of politics.

Also if anyone needs screenshots of the article, I gotchu.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #498 on: August 01, 2020, 11:43:11 pm »
You've got quote tags in your BB code, if you're wondering why that link isn't working as it should.

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Re: Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #499 on: August 02, 2020, 12:14:57 am »
You've got quote tags in your BB code, if you're wondering why that link isn't working as it should.
Thanks. I'm used to having to do that for html, lmao.
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Re: Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #500 on: August 02, 2020, 08:02:32 am »
You've got quote tags in your BB code, if you're wondering why that link isn't working as it should.
Thanks. I'm used to having to do that for html, lmao.

No worries.

And yes, it wouldn't surprise me if similar factors have driven the outcome in several countries. We know that governments have access to at least semi-advanced modelling tools, and beyond that the idea that a highly contagious disease would ravage cities more than the countryside is a fairly straightforward one. Yes, the disease is more lethal to the elderly, but the elderly in cities are not a significant voting block either, at least not significant enough to force a change in the outcome. So urban areas, which their liberal or left-wing leanings were considered by populist rightwing governments, both in the UK, USA and likely Brazil, to be "acceptable casualties" in the event of Covid-19 going pandemic.

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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #501 on: August 02, 2020, 02:08:58 pm »
the "jared let thousands die to make urban governors look bad" is one of those things that would have erupted into a volcano under any other president, but we're all so exhausted

on some level I'm furious, and on another level I'm like "yeah that checks out"

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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #502 on: August 02, 2020, 03:07:41 pm »
https://www.nola.com/news/healthcare_hospitals/article_589eeade-d299-11ea-a0aa-2f04c62b410c.html

Seems like the inflammatory syndrome seen in children can be seen in adults. Long term consequences like continued clotting make me wonder if we're really able to eradicate the whole viral load post presentation. I also wonder what effect all that reported neoplasm may be having in and of itself. There's still so much weird shit with unknown causes.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #503 on: August 03, 2020, 03:36:05 pm »
That moment when facial recognition stops working

That moment when LuciferX is posting random shit in an active thread, either because he's off his meds and thinks that this "contribution" somehow fits into the thread, or because he's a butthurt weenie who is deliberately trying to fuck with the thread because, you know, "butthurt weenie."
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #504 on: August 03, 2020, 03:37:30 pm »
the "jared let thousands die to make urban governors look bad" is one of those things that would have erupted into a volcano under any other president, but we're all so exhausted

on some level I'm furious, and on another level I'm like "yeah that checks out"

There's not you can do without just getting in another pointless argument with the spin machine.

Well, not directly.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #505 on: August 03, 2020, 11:20:27 pm »
That moment when facial recognition stops working

That moment when LuciferX is posting random shit in an active thread, either because he's off his meds and thinks that this "contribution" somehow fits into the thread, or because he's a butthurt weenie who is deliberately trying to fuck with the thread because, you know, "butthurt weenie."


Yes. It was an underdeveloped “Franken weenie beans” attempt at error correction. You had me at “assume the position.”


ETA damnit

Dude. I really want you to shut up with that shit on this particular thread. Don't reply with some nonsense to this post. I'm not being cute. This thread is about a topic that is killing folks and fundamentally altering society. Go shit in the bar or something if you MUST post some shit. Just please shut up here. Thanks.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #506 on: August 18, 2020, 04:50:03 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #507 on: August 18, 2020, 06:55:40 pm »
Panic buying is again a thing.

https://apnews.com/2d762d7369b1d2da22518eb011e8b6b0

On a broader note I expect there to be an exodus of monied people from major cities over time to more remote communities and a land grab of sorts in the "flyover" states as such people begin to set up communities aimed at ensuring members are covid free and not being exposed. Essentially very large gated communities.

That's just a guess of course, but as things progress and the bodies stack higher they will get SUPER panicky in short order and start dropping money in the name of any percieved chance of salvation.
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Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #508 on: August 25, 2020, 01:25:54 am »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/researchers-report-1st-confirmed-cases-135337804.html

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The patient in question was a 33-year-old man who only had mild coronavirus symptoms the first time around, The New York Times reports. COVID-19 patients are usually considered recovered when they test negative for the virus multiple times. But after a trip to Spain, this recovered patient tested positive for the virus again despite showing no symptoms. Researchers tested the second virus to confirm it wasn't just "viral shedding" from the first infection, Dr. Kelvin Kai-Wang To, a clinical microbiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said in a statement. The testing revealed the second virus stemmed from a strain making its way around Europe in July and August, strongly suggesting it wasn't a lingering bit of the first virus the man picked up in Hong Kong.


Seems we have begun to see fairly solid cases of reinfection by different strains. I guess we shall see how that plays out, but "herd immunity" as an excuse to let the infection spread unchecked is kinda looking unlikely.
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Re: Re: Coronavirus data and events as they come in
« Reply #509 on: August 25, 2020, 01:51:38 am »
Jesus fuck. This is exhausting.

Regarding the clotting, I sort of wonder if it just fucks up the cells that produce the platelets for a while (or permanently 😬) so it takes however long the turnover for that stuff takes to stop being fucky.
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