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High Weirdness / Re: BanK
« Last post by hirley0 on Today at 04:15:43 am »
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"Serious parody: Discordianism as liquid religion" by Mäkelä & Petsche, Cult. & Rel., 14(4):411-423

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14755610.2013.841269

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260383131_Serious_parody_Discordianism_as_liquid_religion

The second link has a better chance of having the full text. The first may work better for people with library access.

It's a short article. It does a good job of describing my experience as a Discordian. The whole business of this "religion" - it's a parody - or is it? No, seriously, it's a joke.

But the more you look into it, the more there is to seriously laugh about. Horrormirth, GRINs and all.

Liquid Religion refers to the infusing of sacred concepts and actions into the behavior of otherwise non-religious people. The concept of 'liquid religion' is enticing. The idea seems to be that religiosity seeps through the cracks or that elements of worship or gathering in faith are useful and enlightening for atheists or people from different faiths.

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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by Doktor Howl on May 10, 2021, 09:56:03 pm »
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by LMNO on May 10, 2021, 07:52:53 pm »
Nice.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 05:38:03 pm »
#1: Righteousness

Morality is an individual person's idea of right-and-wrong.
Legality is the government's idea of right-and-wrong.
Ethics is a philosopher's (or corporate headquarters') idea of right-and-wrong.

Justice, however, is an ideal, perfect and absolute--and therefore, subject to being used as a label to justify mushy human constructs.
If an individual wants revenge, they call it justice.  The government tacks "department of justice" on their legal institutions.

Beware of conflation of the above concepts, especially when the labels get swapped around.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 04:57:05 pm »
#1: More.  Weight.

"More weight" were the last words of Giles Corey, as they piled stones on his chest, to force him to confess during the Salem Witch Trials.

(...more accurately, they were trying to force him to plead guilty/not-guilty, so that the trial could proceed, and they could convict him, execute him, and seize his property.  By dying without trial, his assets would pass to his heirs, instead.  But that's not really relevant, here.)

This idea recurs in a number of cliches:  "pedal-to-the-metal", "balls-to-the-wall", "go-big-or-go-home".

Apply this principle universally.  If what you're doing isn't Big, it's not worth doing.  Fail spectacularly.  Succeed spectacularly.  Do it FOR SCIENCE.  Do it for the lulz.  If it isn't Big, why are you doing it at all?

More. Weight.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 04:42:44 pm »
#1: Notice Confusion.

"I notice that I am confused" is a mantra I learned from an article on rationalism...or perhaps it was Harry Potter fanfiction.

Regardless, it is useful to recognize the symptoms of confusion in myself.  Sometimes it means I have insufficient information; sometimes it means I have wrong information; and sometimes it means I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance.

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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 04:38:54 pm »
#1: The Principle of Asymmetry.

Any horrible truth I discover about myself doesn't necessarily apply to everyone else.  My flaws are not universal; my delusions are not shared.

We're not all the same.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 04:34:07 pm »
#1: The Principle of Symmetry.

Any horrible truth I discover about humanity in general applies to me too.  If civilization is a thin veneer, and people are barely domesticated barbarians, then I'm no exception.  If humans are gullible sheeple, then I am one as well.

We're all the same.
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Apple Talk / Re: Edicts
« Last post by chaotic neutral observer on May 09, 2021, 04:28:07 pm »
#1: Magic is Real.

Magic is real and beautiful and horrible and spectacular and mundane and difficult and ON SALE AT DEPARTMENT STORES WORLDWIDE.

They probably taught you some basic magic in school, but didn't make a big deal out of it.  Most of the time, it fades into the background.  You see, usually you'll just be paying someone else to do magic for you, often by buying some trinket that has it built-in.

If you want to actually practice magic, expect it to take at least two years of hard study, four if you do it at one of the major academies, and possibly decades if you want to delve deep into the mysteries.  There will almost always be math involved.

There's a lot of fake magic out there, but there's a simple way to identify the real thing:

It's obvious when Real Magic fails.
When fake magic fails, nothing happens.  But, that's pretty much the same as when the fake magic "works".

True, when Real Magic fails, sometimes nothing happens...but the potential exists for it to blow up in your face.  If your magic doesn't backfire from time-to-time, the chances are good you're not doing anything at all.

Mispronouncing a word in the Lord's Prayer causes you to grow mushrooms out of your eyeballs?  Real Magic.
Using the wrong syntax to command the demon living in your computer makes it delete all your files?  Real Magic.
Sticking the wrong crystal up your butt causes you to puke rainbows?  Real Magic.

You know what they call alternative medicine that works?  "Medicine."
You know what they call magic that works?  "Technology".
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