MysticWicks endorsement: "At least Satanists HAVE a worldview. After reading this thread, I'm convinced that discordians not only don't, but will actively mock anyone who does."
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Hmm.
Is it implicit in this that creating a race that is more intelligent, or benevolent, inherently, than the regular humans is problematic as well?
To be clear I say that only because Dok isn’t Dok without some bastards to stomp on
He would never go somewhere that there’s no joy in the stomping
i've paused it but so far a couple things that stood out to me:
"the kids on tiktok aren't interested in a counterculture, they're interested in 17 million views"
this is from a genXer who claims to have won the counterculture war, and now they're the overculture, but this guy doesn't seem to get that tiktok is it's own sort of culture, like the guy he has on says, but more than that i feel like he wouldn't understand what counterculture would be in a world where he and his friends "won." it's like. tiktoks can be a valid form of artistic expression, and i don't think this guy has interacted with the medium at all, i feel like he's just made up his mind about it and dismissed it as unworthy, which feels like a reaction that would be typical of someone of the overculture, as he mentioned.
what's interesting is that the guy he has on clearly has interacted with tiktok, and gets the kids (who are coming of age now) a little bit better - he mentions that they don't want any part of capitalism because there's nothing left, and this is true. it's also true that zoomers are both nihilistic and jaded but also want to enact change, and from what i understand they're trying to go out there and get shit done. looking at things like the protest walkouts at high schools across the country in response to the bigger, more highly reported school shootings, i feel like they're definitely trying and not just looking for fame.
Yeah, it's amusing because these guys are a little out of touch. A lot of these things are a very Gen X perspective, kind of lost some of the nuance. Like at one point they talk about how millenials and Gen Z aren't very neurotic, when you talk to them, they seem pretty well adjusted (as compared, I guess, to the highly medicated and intoxicated Generation X at age 20?). And I don't know about that!
But I do think they're right that a 'counterculture' used to exist in a different form. Many of the things that were resisting the mainstream culture of the 80s-90s were subsumed and converted into the mainstream. (we have a great thread somewhere on this forum about this process, discussing the book Ourspace by Christine Harold)
I think they're saying that if you gave TikTok to disaffected 90s kids, you would probably end up with something that has more punk-rock energy. In the 90s, kids were very wary of "the system" which would convert us all into necktie wearing adult baby boomers. TikTok is part of that system. Are there punk bands tearing up tiktok culture? If so, I'm probably too old for them to be on my radar.
Metzger and Rushkoff hold up Occultists as a kind of weather vane -- that the people doing weird rituals to change the world used to be kinda removed from specific political factions. Yes many individual occultists had a valence, but in general, mysticism was not necessarily political. But now we've got witches hexing Trump, and we've got right wing kek-wielding meme magic. They're saying that the occult used to be outside of the system, giving it the finger, but now it's an interior part of the machine. Witches For Bernie, and all that.
I think part of what they're missing is that unlike the 90s, we're living in a time that demands a specific political response. "Fighting the system" used to be a vague anthem. In 2020, most of that energy exists within the democratic socialist camp. It's the progressive, anti-centrist energy. Fighting the system eventually produced a specific political energy.
And today, that energy is subjected to the interior pressures that punks used to be kinda wary of. For example, part of the 90s-era rebellion was a skepticism of big brands and big corporations; all those cyberpunk values. My impression of generation Z is that they are a bit more enthralled by that stuff - to the point that much personal expression has adopted the same logic as brand management. TikTok et al are (in many ways) a means of developing a personal brand. This means that identity and expression is more subject to market forces than it ever was - this is something that 90s grunge kids would have considered "fake" (see also: "phony"). Didn't the Like Button commodify personal expression in some ways? Are we just stuck with zuccbook because you need social media in order to resist anything? Isn't it weird how the rules of zuccbook (ie the Algorithm) (ie how facebook chooses what you see) are completely opaque and nobody cares?
Not that this immediately addresses your concerns, but the SCOTUS ruling was a nice way to wake up this morning.
I believe Permagos was trying to say that there could be Queer Double Agents within the Police Force.
Europe likes to pretend it has a better handle on racism than the USA...then you mention Muslims or Roma and you can see the calls for the concentration camps coming in.
Btw, theres echoes of the riots down here in several cities in Mexico, its kinda weird:
https://twitter.com/i/events/1269004961326567424
Yesterday they set a policeman on fire in Guadalajara, and today theyre outside the capitols embassy of the US; this started out because a construction worker was beaten to death, allegedly for not wearing a mask (for Covid and all that).
Its weird cause police brutality is like an everyday normal thing, i guess everyones on edge and its just an outlet.
Statistically Mexicans are equally likely to be brutalized by Police in Mexico or the US, Blacks are considerably more likely to be brutalized by police in the US than Mexico.
I dont understand what your point is, but, that's just because "gringo" trumps the "black/browness" characteristic, but worry not, we hate indigenous brown people too.
I am somewhat curious about the context in which vegetables are prohibitively expensive, but horses aren't.
horses are good companions, and vegetables aren't. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Does grass grow during the winter?
Btw, theres echoes of the riots down here in several cities in Mexico, its kinda weird:
https://twitter.com/i/events/1269004961326567424
Yesterday they set a policeman on fire in Guadalajara, and today theyre outside the capitols embassy of the US; this started out because a construction worker was beaten to death, allegedly for not wearing a mask (for Covid and all that).
Its weird cause police brutality is like an everyday normal thing, i guess everyones on edge and its just an outlet.
moist likely, not.
i kinda dropped out eight-ish years ago. pursuing my own madness.
which is something i still do these days.
just figured i find out whatever this is now, and say hi at the very least.
frankly, the less anyone remembers the better - but it would be weird to start a fresh account just because of my past. gotta stand for who you became, and where you came from. yadda yadda
so, who are you then? :3
for lack of a better spot - another three years have gone by: and holy fuck did my outlook on life change beyond just getting fucking old. :3
there is actually a life worth living now. who would have thought this even existed??
but i guess that is mostly thanks to black market prescription hormones which finally put my brain into its rightful soup. and then hrt did its magic, partially to the body, which i am still somewhat trying to kinda live with; but most of all - to ye ol' brainbox: which can finally work as intended and damn did it click into place.
so yeah;i am kinda back. new and improved. eksky/planeswalker is dead - long live Ari, the tentacle queen. yadda yadda.
now back to lurking to see what you have all been up to as of late. i missed this place.
eyyo
/ari atari
