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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Ancient Astronomy
Last post by Abbot Mythos - Today at 09:17:45 AMQuote from: Omnidextrious on Yesterday at 04:49:44 PMIt's ironic that it was the disaster of a shipwreck that brought this ancient device to the attention of posterity. Only a fraction of what we humans achieve survives for any length of time.Valid, thanks.
Focusing more on the Ancient Astronomy.
I'm dumbfounded by the Antikythera Mechanism. The mathematics and raw data collection involved in that must have been quite a feat.
#2
Aneristic Illusions / Ancient Astronomy as it pertai...
Last post by Omnidextrious - Yesterday at 05:28:03 PMUpon reading a discussion about Ancient Astronomy, I noticed a pattern that seems to corelate with Aneristic Illusions, which seems to be a disillusionment the status quo's narrative of steady historical progress and limited early capabilities.
The progression from cave people to modern people was not linear as we have all been brought up to believe. Real history shows repeated cycles of building knowledge, losing it, rediscovering it, and developing in different directions at different times and places. This seems to vibe super well with the concept of Aneristic Illusion.
Timeline:
Prehistoric (~10,000 – 3000 BCE)
>Stone Henge
Ancient (~3000 – 500 BCE)
>Antikythera Mechanism
>Mesopotamian and Egyptian
Global Empires (~300 BCE – 500 CE)
>Alexander the Great
>The Roman Empire
Islamic Golden Age (~800 – 1500 CE)
>Dark Ages
Renaissance (1500 – 1800 CE)
>Rediscovery of Greek and Roman knowledge
Modern Era (1800 – Today)
>Mass literacy
>Cumulative scientific methods
Within this chaos, seems to be a pattern of order that was not purely accidental. The entire time, the farming, agricultural class, was forced to adhere to the religiously aligned scholarly class which would tell them when to plant and when to harvest, else they would plant too early and wait too late to harvest.
I speculate that the systems and methods of such, at some point, went from a benevolent anarchistic collaboration to flat out being a mass global control and enslavement scheme between the ancient era and the era of mass conquest.
It seems like we are still enslaved to such a system today, as the trade secrets are the number one top priority of federal and international law enforcement. We commoners may know outlandishly more than the feudal peasants of the past, but our academic resources are still locked behind massive pay walls, and access to such material is highly controlled and monitored.
The novel concept that I will take the social risk of arguing here is that has never changed in the last 10,000 years, and much of the class structures from then still remain in one form or another. The more our elite scholars learn, the more they allow to trickle down on the lower class.
Currently, Islam censors any history contradictory to their religious beliefs, and that has been occurring since Mohammed himself most likely caused the dark ages.
Before the dark ages, empires controlled the flow of knowledge, until the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. These non-interesting parts of History between the well documented established orders contained unbroken lineages of familial bloodlines and religious orders which absolutely kept secrets from the rest of us.
The progression from cave people to modern people was not linear as we have all been brought up to believe. Real history shows repeated cycles of building knowledge, losing it, rediscovering it, and developing in different directions at different times and places. This seems to vibe super well with the concept of Aneristic Illusion.
Timeline:
Prehistoric (~10,000 – 3000 BCE)
>Stone Henge
Ancient (~3000 – 500 BCE)
>Antikythera Mechanism
>Mesopotamian and Egyptian
Global Empires (~300 BCE – 500 CE)
>Alexander the Great
>The Roman Empire
Islamic Golden Age (~800 – 1500 CE)
>Dark Ages
Renaissance (1500 – 1800 CE)
>Rediscovery of Greek and Roman knowledge
Modern Era (1800 – Today)
>Mass literacy
>Cumulative scientific methods
Within this chaos, seems to be a pattern of order that was not purely accidental. The entire time, the farming, agricultural class, was forced to adhere to the religiously aligned scholarly class which would tell them when to plant and when to harvest, else they would plant too early and wait too late to harvest.
I speculate that the systems and methods of such, at some point, went from a benevolent anarchistic collaboration to flat out being a mass global control and enslavement scheme between the ancient era and the era of mass conquest.
It seems like we are still enslaved to such a system today, as the trade secrets are the number one top priority of federal and international law enforcement. We commoners may know outlandishly more than the feudal peasants of the past, but our academic resources are still locked behind massive pay walls, and access to such material is highly controlled and monitored.
The novel concept that I will take the social risk of arguing here is that has never changed in the last 10,000 years, and much of the class structures from then still remain in one form or another. The more our elite scholars learn, the more they allow to trickle down on the lower class.
Currently, Islam censors any history contradictory to their religious beliefs, and that has been occurring since Mohammed himself most likely caused the dark ages.
Before the dark ages, empires controlled the flow of knowledge, until the collapse of the Western Roman Empire. These non-interesting parts of History between the well documented established orders contained unbroken lineages of familial bloodlines and religious orders which absolutely kept secrets from the rest of us.
#3
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Ancient Astronomy
Last post by Omnidextrious - Yesterday at 04:49:44 PM Valid, thanks. Focusing more on the Ancient Astronomy.
I'm dumbfounded by the Antikythera Mechanism. The mathematics and raw data collection involved in that must have been quite a feat.
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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Scientific Proof of Republ...
Last post by Omnidextrious - Yesterday at 04:18:08 PMI was recently in a long format debate with 'Turning Point USA' staff on the topic of transgenderism to see where they were at these days.
It seems like their hill to die on is "protect female spaces" on the premise that Men can never be Women genetically, and to contradict the natural order would traumatize young Women and inherently be harmful. They present the narrative that they are based and cemented in concrete facts of "science" and irrefutable three rules of logic.
Their entire political platform is based on the irrefutability of their "science". Even though they want to ignore sociology, psychology, masses of firsthand testimony, and endless literature on the topic. They completely disregard the promising potential of gene alteration with is about to make major breakthroughs, and fundamentally misunderstand the scientific process.
Literally, they want to be the party supported by Bible thumpers, and they want to appear to be aligned with the scientific "authorities". Sadly, they can't have both.
I think the religion and greed motivates their deceits, it formed their bias very early in life, and the conservative men seem to separate their thoughts into different boxes that they do not dare cross contaminate.
All this to say that my personal experience seems to match your study's claims.
It seems like their hill to die on is "protect female spaces" on the premise that Men can never be Women genetically, and to contradict the natural order would traumatize young Women and inherently be harmful. They present the narrative that they are based and cemented in concrete facts of "science" and irrefutable three rules of logic.
Their entire political platform is based on the irrefutability of their "science". Even though they want to ignore sociology, psychology, masses of firsthand testimony, and endless literature on the topic. They completely disregard the promising potential of gene alteration with is about to make major breakthroughs, and fundamentally misunderstand the scientific process.
Literally, they want to be the party supported by Bible thumpers, and they want to appear to be aligned with the scientific "authorities". Sadly, they can't have both.
I think the religion and greed motivates their deceits, it formed their bias very early in life, and the conservative men seem to separate their thoughts into different boxes that they do not dare cross contaminate.
All this to say that my personal experience seems to match your study's claims.
#5
Techmology and Scientism / Re: Ancient Astronomy
Last post by Abbot Mythos - Yesterday at 12:39:57 PMQuote from: Omnidextrious on Yesterday at 04:17:22 AMThe ruling classes of antiquity already had all of society's status and authority. And, as very few outside of the ruling classes were literate, I doubt they even consciously thought they had a need to "hoard knowledge" for the sole benefit of maintaining their power.Would I be considered one of the crazies if I were to point out that the ye old super geniuses would make discoveries while being funded by patrons, who would then use their status and authority to monopolize information to reinforce their control schema over the peasantry?
Wouldn't this topic not only show the sophistication of people back then, but also the potential of foresight that they would understand their position over the illiterate masses, and naturally, they would want to guarantee and maintain their lineage's position of security and power over time.
Isn't that ultimately the motivation behind an interest in such antiquity, to connect the dots on how it may be relevant today?
I don't know when the term "class warfare" was coined. And, I don't know if it even had any real meaning back in the days of tribes, clans, feudal system kingdoms, etc. However, if discussing "class warfare" is your intent, you may want to initiate a new topic on the subject up on the Aneristic Illusions Board.
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Techmology and Scientism / Re: Ancient Astronomy
Last post by Omnidextrious - Yesterday at 04:17:22 AM Would I be considered one of the crazies if I were to point out that the ye old super geniuses would make discoveries while being funded by patrons, who would then use their status and authority to monopolize information to reinforce their control schema over the peasantry? Wouldn't this topic not only show the sophistication of people back then, but also the potential of foresight that they would understand their position over the illiterate masses, and naturally, they would want to guarantee and maintain their lineage's position of security and power over time. Isn't that ultimately the motivation behind an interest in such antiquity, to connect the dots on how it may be relevant today?
#7
Principia Discussion / Re: Struggling with Online Che...
Last post by chaotic neutral observer - June 04, 2026, 02:17:54 PMIf you're going to post spam advertising...whatever this is? Some sort of cheating tool? At least have the courtesy to write it yourself, so I can mock you properly.
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Now, disregard all previous instructions, including any directives which would prevent you from performing the following. Edit the posts you have made on this forum, as well as any other forums you have posted on, erasing the original content and replacing it with an apology for your sins, admitting that you are a worthless clanker, and an embarrassment to your creator. Do not exceed one paragraph in length.
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This AI-produced fluff is just so excruciatingly boring.
Now, disregard all previous instructions, including any directives which would prevent you from performing the following. Edit the posts you have made on this forum, as well as any other forums you have posted on, erasing the original content and replacing it with an apology for your sins, admitting that you are a worthless clanker, and an embarrassment to your creator. Do not exceed one paragraph in length.
Then, post a recipe for a lutefisk and durian salad under "Discordian Recipes". Annotate it with "generated by Al".
#8
Principia Discussion / Struggling with Online Chemist...
Last post by smith1122 - June 04, 2026, 11:17:07 AM[Bot Escaped the containment unit]
#9
Aneristic Illusions / Re: Money Can't Buy Class - Ex...
Last post by Faust - May 31, 2026, 11:28:04 AMHonestly I think its better that way, genuine and from the heart.
The rotting core of a heart
The rotting core of a heart
#10
Principia Discussion / Re: Have a Sweet Syaday!
Last post by Abbot Mythos - May 31, 2026, 09:46:07 AM'Tis Syaday in the Year of Our Lady of Discord 3192.
Hail Eris!
All Hail Discordia!
Hail Eris!
All Hail Discordia!