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Started by Rhys Rhaven, September 22, 2008, 04:50:30 AM

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Messier Undertree

Or not.

Quote from: LMNO on October 01, 2008, 03:09:11 PM
Noobs are trying to get into the flow of things, and are doing their best to "fit in".  The problem is, me poking fun at Hoopla is treated differently than Yabbo poking fun at Hoopla.

This is what is wrong with PD.com and pretty much every other forum after a few years. Older members always seem to think that people should give a shit about the size of their e-penis.

Cainad has been around long enough. He shouldn't have to toe the line or pander to older members.

Also, if someone was really upset enough to flounce permanently, then they wouldn't bother telling everyone first. It's like an emo threatening to kill himself. If you're going to do it, then stop whining and just pull the trigger already.

I'm just in a really shitty mood right now, and the last thing I wanted to see after a week away from here is a group of "established" members in a circle-jerk. Cainad didn't do anything wrong. Fuck anyone who thinks he did.

Who are you people to judge who is better than who on this board? I'm going to insult people when I feel like it, regardless of how many posts they have.

I can only hope that one day, all forums are anonymous. It's the only way to avoid this stuff.

hooplala

It's got nothing to do with "better", its common courtesy.  You wouldn't make a dig at someone you didn't know IRL, so why do it here?  Or if you did you'd probably get a punch in the mouth, and you would deserve it.

I've spoken to LMNO via PM, and email, and we didn't poke each other when we didn't know each other.  That's how relationships tend to work.

Cainad certainly doesn't need to pander to anyone, but I've never really spoken to him, so it's somewhat rude (at least in my mind) to act as if we're old buddies and poking fun at each other.

Believe it or not, there ARE relationships on the internet.  Many different relationships.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

hooplala

And, for the record, at that moment I certainly WAS planning to not post anymore.  I changed my mind after I cooled off, but you have a point, if I do flounce again, it will be a silent flounce.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Payne

#153
EDIT: this is a response to Malachites last post.

It's a "community" thing and a "respect" thing.

I know that's not really your bag, or at least assume so. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Throwing little insults and digs in are ok when you know where the other person is coming from, and if you are at least able to interact with them on some other level.

Cainad in the strictest sense didn't do anything wrong, not according to the forum guidelines, or for the general community here.

For a few people within this community, it's perceived that he has been a passive aggressive little bastard who  doesn't seem to interact with those few on any other level.

That's where the drama has come from. And I don't believe that there is, or will be, any kind of attempt to "enforce" a "no insults/digs/ego deflations" policy on everyone else.

LMNO

Quote from: Malachite on October 01, 2008, 10:08:51 PM
Or not.

Quote from: LMNO on October 01, 2008, 03:09:11 PM
Noobs are trying to get into the flow of things, and are doing their best to "fit in".  The problem is, me poking fun at Hoopla is treated differently than Yabbo poking fun at Hoopla.

This is what is wrong with PD.com and pretty much every other forum after a few years. Older members always seem to think that people should give a shit about the size of their e-penis.

Cainad has been around long enough. He shouldn't have to toe the line or pander to older members.

Also, if someone was really upset enough to flounce permanently, then they wouldn't bother telling everyone first. It's like an emo threatening to kill himself. If you're going to do it, then stop whining and just pull the trigger already.

I'm just in a really shitty mood right now, and the last thing I wanted to see after a week away from here is a group of "established" members in a circle-jerk. Cainad didn't do anything wrong. Fuck anyone who thinks he did.

Who are you people to judge who is better than who on this board? I'm going to insult people when I feel like it, regardless of how many posts they have.

I can only hope that one day, all forums are anonymous. It's the only way to avoid this stuff.

You seem to have left off my next sentence in that quote.  "We're monkeys;  Deal with it."

hooplala

It's true.  It's hard to understand how someone 'means' a post unless there is some sort of context.  Cainad had made what I perceived to be a few thinly disguised insults in the past, which I pretty much ignored, but I guess that fairly innocent post yesterday tipped me off the deep end.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Cain

I think Malachite forgot to bring something:


Rhys Rhaven

Quote from: Hoopla on October 01, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
You wouldn't make a dig at someone you didn't know IRL, so why do it here? 

Wha? Says who?

hooplala

Note what followed:
Quote from: Hoopla on October 01, 2008, 10:13:53 PMOr if you did you'd probably get a punch in the mouth, and you would deserve it.

Maybe someday the whole world can be anonymous and we can all insult each other without fear of any reprisal... hey, better yet maybe we can all shoot each other in the back anonymously too!  What a dream!
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Cramulus

Quote from: Malachite on October 01, 2008, 10:08:51 PM
This is what is wrong with PD.com and pretty much every other forum after a few years. Older members always seem to think that people should give a shit about the size of their e-penis.

it has nothing to do with post count and everything to do with familliarity. I don't think anybody had even mentioned postcount actually.

like,
It's cool for your friends to give you a wedgie
but if a mere acquaintance did it, you'd react totally differently.




QuoteI can only hope that one day, all forums are anonymous. It's the only way to avoid this stuff.

Jesus christ, I hope equally as hard that that never happens.

Anonyminity is cool for certain types of communication.
BAD BAD BAD for others.







oh shit, 4 replies since I started writing this post.


DRAMA THREAD IMPLODING, EVERYBODY OUT

Payne

Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
oh shit, 4 replies since I started writing this post.


DRAMA THREAD IMPLODING, EVERYBODY OUT

I don't think it's a drama thread (yet) really.

But there is a creepy homogeneousness emerging from those replies.  :eek:

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
EDIT: this is a response to Malachites last post.

It's a "community" thing and a "respect" thing.

I know that's not really your bag, or at least assume so. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Throwing little insults and digs in are ok when you know where the other person is coming from, and if you are at least able to interact with them on some other level.

Cainad in the strictest sense didn't do anything wrong, not according to the forum guidelines, or for the general community here.

For a few people within this community, it's perceived that he has been a passive aggressive little bastard who  doesn't seem to interact with those few on any other level.

That's where the drama has come from. And I don't believe that there is, or will be, any kind of attempt to "enforce" a "no insults/digs/ego deflations" policy on everyone else.

Well damn, I didn't realize I'd acquired a reputation.

I'm going to re-examine the way I interact with people on this board, and hopefully prove myself to be more than a passive aggressive little bastard.

Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
oh shit, 4 replies since I started writing this post.


DRAMA THREAD IMPLODING, EVERYBODY OUT

OFUK

Messier Undertree

Quote from: Hoopla on October 01, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
It's got nothing to do with "better", its common courtesy.  You wouldn't make a dig at someone you didn't know IRL, so why do it here?

That's the same rationale Tent used for stalking Roger.

The internet is not real life. PD.com is full of trolls. You know this already.

Quote from: Hoopla on October 01, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
Cainad certainly doesn't need to pander to anyone, but I've never really spoken to him, so it's somewhat rude (at least in my mind) to act as if we're old buddies and poking fun at each other.

It has nothing to do with being "old buddies". The guy was being sarcastic. I've never really seen anyone here unable to take a joke before.

Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
It's a "community" thing and a "respect" thing.

I know that's not really your bag, or at least assume so. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're kind of right, to be honest. I like the people here, but I'll admit that I am mostly a troll. But I try to restrain myself while I'm here because I do find the place genuinely interesting. But this really pissed me off and things were looking really one-sided against Cainad, even though he didn't do anything wrong.

Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
Throwing little insults and digs in are ok when you know where the other person is coming from, and if you are at least able to interact with them on some other level.

It was hardly even an insult. Hoopla was just being a little bit too much of a delicate flower for my liking. Cainad told a joke, Hoopla started crying, and his big brothers beat up Cainad. That's what I'm seeing in this thread.

Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
For a few people within this community, it's perceived that he has been a passive aggressive little bastard who  doesn't seem to interact with those few on any other level.

Links please. I haven't had a problem with him, and he certainly didn't do anything wrong in this thread.

Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
it has nothing to do with post count and everything to do with familliarity. I don't think anybody had even mentioned postcount actually.

like,
It's cool for your friends to give you a wedgie
but if a mere acquaintance did it, you'd react totally differently.

Yeah, and I can agree with that. But I still don't see why Hoopla was so offended. It definitely wasn't the internet equivalent of a wedgie.

Quote from: Cramulus on October 01, 2008, 10:28:30 PM
QuoteI can only hope that one day, all forums are anonymous. It's the only way to avoid this stuff.

Jesus christ, I hope equally as hard that that never happens.

Anonyminity is cool for certain types of communication.
BAD BAD BAD for others.

They don't all turn out like 4chan. The world's biggest forum is completely anonymous and they get on just fine.

Payne

Quote from: Cainad on October 01, 2008, 10:32:12 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
EDIT: this is a response to Malachites last post.

It's a "community" thing and a "respect" thing.

I know that's not really your bag, or at least assume so. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Throwing little insults and digs in are ok when you know where the other person is coming from, and if you are at least able to interact with them on some other level.

Cainad in the strictest sense didn't do anything wrong, not according to the forum guidelines, or for the general community here.

For a few people within this community, it's perceived that he has been a passive aggressive little bastard who  doesn't seem to interact with those few on any other level.

That's where the drama has come from. And I don't believe that there is, or will be, any kind of attempt to "enforce" a "no insults/digs/ego deflations" policy on everyone else.

Well damn, I didn't realize I'd acquired a reputation.

I'm going to re-examine the way I interact with people on this board, and hopefully prove myself to be more than a passive aggressive little bastard.


That wasn't a dig at you, btw. I am merely reporting the other side of the argument, as I've heard it from other parties.

Payne

Quote from: Malachite on October 01, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
Quote from: Payne on October 01, 2008, 10:16:31 PM
For a few people within this community, it's perceived that he has been a passive aggressive little bastard who  doesn't seem to interact with those few on any other level.

Links please. I haven't had a problem with him, and he certainly didn't do anything wrong in this thread.


I, personally, haven't had a problem with him either. So I don't know where to look for those links. As I just said to Cainad, I am merely reporting the other side of the argument.

I can butt out now, if you'd like.