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Apple Zone / Re: So my uncle informs me
« Last post by M. Nigel Salt on Today at 05:01:08 am »
Well, we have to have that 13th aircraft carrier.

Something has to give, if you'll pardon the expression.

I'm glad your uncle made it over.

The expression is completely and literally correct. We make our priorities, we place our resources, and we reap our consequences.

There are a lot of downstream towns, is all I have to say. I hope we don't forget how deliberate and preventable this was. And how deliberate and preventable all the future collapses are.
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Apple Zone / Re: So my uncle informs me
« Last post by Cainad on Today at 04:58:52 am »
You know, we have a bunch of people out of work.

And an infrastructure in dire need of repair.

If only you could find a common solution...

...Naw, the free market will take care of it.

"Capitalism is the only way any of this shit ever gets done right! Government can't get anything done!"
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Apple Zone / Re: So my uncle informs me
« Last post by hylierandom, A.D.D. on Today at 04:57:23 am »
 But tax breaks for the rich make us all richer.
It's because of the wealth trickling down, like a golden stream from above...
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Apple Zone / Re: What the fuck is wrong with your Discordia?
« Last post by GrannySmith on Today at 04:51:31 am »
I'm confused about your description of discordians - what religion? I am an atheist, I'm usually joyous and not angry, I alternate my funny hats, and i insist, i am NOT religious. what makes you think i'm not on fb right now?  i have replaced my tv with a tiny laptop with an internet connection and an adblock. And you should do something about that superiority thing Alty, it could become nasty   8)
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Apple Zone / Re: Little Orange Breaks Bad
« Last post by hylierandom, A.D.D. on Today at 04:50:58 am »
Have not got up to current yet, have to get off work soon.
Up to the stolen Alamo :lol:

This is just beyond awesome stuff, Rev.
It reminded me of Neil Gaiman and Clive Barker at first, now feeling more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Omens

I want to buy this in hardcopy.

Edited to add: caught up now!
 :cheers:
Awesomeness!

Have to say I love that Andrew Jackson gets his ass kicked daily in the afterlife. 
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#3
It is hereby decreed that:
LIFE is too short and nasty, and the world too full of shit, for good people to be allowed to walk around without being appreciated, without being let to know that they, by existing, make the/my world a little bit warmer, a little bit friendlier and a little bit more beautiful.

THIS DECREE SUPERSEDES ALL SOCIAL ANXIETY

My most successful long-term mindfuck is to be nice to audibly appreciative to waiters, cashiers, call center people, etc. Just because they're being paid to helpful doesn't mean they should be appreciated any less.
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Apple Zone / Re: Open Bar VII: written by George Lucas!
« Last post by Golden Applesauce on Today at 04:23:05 am »
yep. bombed midterm #2 for calc 2.

:/

Sorry dude.

Also, this is not promising for me. Based on what I gather of your intellectual capabilities it is equivalent in the irrelevant areas and surpassing mine in the relevant areas. I might ask you for pointers in a few months.

If you ask me to, I will start a math thread with the passion of a thousand suns.

GA,
kind of a math nerd
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The overall annual cost of substance abuse to the United States is just under $500 Billion.

Ok...a few things:
One, you're not breaking that down into legal substance abuse and illegal substance abuse.   
(Not entirely possible; see below)
Two, who's paying for what, exactly? you're not breaking it into who currently pays who, and for what...and don't give me BS answers like "we all pay," SOMEONE'S making money off this shiat.
Local police forces and for-profit prison companies come to mind here.

Three, you have no link to show where you got that info. Did you go out and personally collect that data yourself? If not, you're failing to attribute.

http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/38#sthash.W6cXE2CV.dpbs

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(Spending Estimates by Substance) "Almost half (47.3 percent) of government spending on substance abuse and addiction cannot be disaggregated by substance. In fact, research shows that most individuals who abuse or are dependent on addictive substances use more than one drug.9 Of the $248 billion in substance-related spending that can be linked to specific drugs of abuse, 92.3 percent is linked to the legal drugs of alcohol and tobacco."

So, when you say substance abuse, you mean all of them...that's a bit misleading when talking about one illegal substance don't you think?

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"(Cost Effectiveness of Substance Abuse Treatment)
Substance abuse treatment is more cost-effective than prison or other punitive measures. The Washington State Institute for Public Policy (WSIPP) found that drug treatment conducted within the community is extremely beneficial in terms of cost, especially compared to prison. Every dollar spent on drug treatment in the community is estimated to return $18.52 in benefits to society."
However...
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"Only 2.4 percent of total federal and state substance-related spending in 2005 ($8.8 billion) was for prevention, treatment or research; only 1.9 percent ($7.2 billion) was for prevention and treatment.
Meanwhile:

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".....the savings of supply-control programs are smaller than the control costs (an estimated 15 cents on the dollar for source-country control, 32 cents on the dollar for interdiction, and 52 cents on the dollar for domestic enforcement). In contrast, the savings of treatment programs are larger than the control costs; we estimate that the costs of crime and lost productivity are reduced by $7.46 for every dollar spend on treatment."

One more thing:
Earlier, when I said give the kids something to work towards, what I meant was "Towards having a life that doesn't suck." 
Right now you have two main choices: one, work your ass off for peanuts, two, spend a lifetime saddled with a shitton of student loan debt in order to not work for peanuts.

Faced with the amount of suck that they are faced with, I can't exactly blame kids for wanting to get high.
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We have a lost wallet somewhere in this house.  :argh!:

I just keep chanting the St. Anthony mantra in my head hoping it will pop up somewhere in plain sight. Not that it does anything, but it helps me from getting aggravated by focusing on something meditative rather than blowing a fit.

I find singing "If I was a _________" (rich man replaced with the name of the lost object) it usually works before I need to come up with a second verse. YMMV, of course.
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Apple Zone / Re: Open Bar VII: written by George Lucas!
« Last post by Freeky Queen of DERP on Today at 04:03:12 am »
Twid, you will never, and were never, "Twid" to me.  You were always "Tweeid." :D Nyuk nyuk nyuk, fuckin'... thingy joke.  Regional pronunciation thingy joke.

Accent, there we go.


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